Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #42

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I’m not sure either. The system seems to be unbalanced to the favour of the accused so I am assuming that if FF has any information that CB has comitted the crime, it’ll be confidential.

I noticed in the trial that the strategy of the defence was to not argue any of the evidence but to attack the admissibility of the evidence, therefore didn’t have to raise counter arguments about it.

I don’t think the best lawyers in the world could have talked CB out of the weight of the box factory evidence. So they managed to turn off the light so that nothing in the room could be used. Good defence but nothing about it screams innocence. Much to the contrary in my opinion.

One of the conspiracy authors (FD) says he was with FF when FF was told (phone call) that the BKA have images of MM found on one of his USB’s. But with any of the gossipy authors, believing them is not a clever strategy.
Can we please get a source for the claim about the photos of MM on the USBs please?
 
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He’s out. I hope the supervision doesn’t prevent him talking to the media. His story will be interesting whatever it is.
 
  • #544
He’s out. I hope the supervision doesn’t prevent him talking to the media. His story will be interesting whatever it is.

Oh it will be interesting, I hope he does TV interviews, a convo with a suggested psychopath who is in the top league of dangerousness will be compelling viewing, always are. They'll be plenty of YT body language and statement analysts ready to pounce, as per.
Unless, he's been advised to continue to keep his gob shut.
 
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Can we please get a source for the claim about the photos of MM on the USBs please?
This is an extract from conspiracy author Bernt Stellander’s book “The sudden impulse”

Unfortunately I don’t have the page number. Perhaps 1 or 2 on the thread purchased a copy so maybe they can provide page number.

I never pay too much attention to these authors, so make of it what you will.
 

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  • #546
'We really only have evidence that points to him as the perpetrator. But as to whether we can prove it, prove it in a court of law, that is the big task that lies ahead of us.'

This is HCW - he is confirming they can’t prove it.

 
  • #547
Upthread in the German press it was stated “ not unusual for this type of offence”. Same article said there were over a thousand offenders with them in Germany - not hen’s teeth.
Really? With electronic tagging? Because in 2017 there were 70
 
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He’s out. I hope the supervision doesn’t prevent him talking to the media. His story will be interesting whatever it is.
True. Although could it be an incriminating factor if he talks to media but refuses to cooperate if there is a future MM trial?

The police can check anything he says, so if he gives clear reasons as to why he isn’t responsible they check & can eliminate him. Would you expect him to go into any detail about the MM case? I think he will never. He may tell the press he will only ever talk if it’s all about him & his gripes about his treatment.
 
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'We really only have evidence that points to him as the perpetrator. But as to whether we can prove it, prove it in a court of law, that is the big task that lies ahead of us.'

This is HCW - he is confirming they can’t prove it.

I think the main thing here is "prove it in a court of law".
 
  • #551
I would be surprised if he talks to the media or sell any story. Can't see how he would manage not to incriminate himself easily sooner or later.
Maybe talk through letters. But even so, he was naive in some past ones when in prison.
He will want to hide quickly and back being a lone wolf.
IMO
 
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This is an extract from conspiracy author Bernt Stellander’s book “The sudden impulse”

Unfortunately I don’t have the page number. Perhaps 1 or 2 on the thread purchased a copy so maybe they can provide page number.

I never pay too much attention to these authors, so make of it what you will.

Thanks for that little......'nugget' of info.
So BS said it would be 'impossible', but then uses narrative bias to make it a 'possibility'. :rolleyes:
jmo
 
  • #553
That is incorrect. Do you have a link for this statement?
Well it can't be really as it will be CB's behaviour post-release that will determines the timescale. If he's cooperative and doesn't reoffend, the monitoring process (as per the remit of the body - GÜL - responsible for the monitoring) will presumably adjust accordingly over time.
Because I found this:

These conditions are valid for five years, as Hans Christian Wolters, spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, told NDR Niedersachsen. This is the maximum that can be imposed.

 
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Yes, it was one of the German articles.
I cannot find it! Perhaps there are 1000 with supervision, but how could there be 1000 with electronic tagging from 70 that there were 8 years ago? Germany is very strict with this monitoring.

Actually, in August 2025 there were 129 people with an ankle monitor in the whole of Germany. Please tell me now this is not significant.


Berlin (dpa) - Bundesweit werden derzeit in 129 Fällen Straftäter mit einer elektronischen Fußfessel überwacht. Das teilte der Sprecher des hessischen Justizministeriums dem Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland (RND) mit. Dort ist die Gemeinsame elektronische Überwachungsstelle der Länder (GÜL) angesiedelt, die bereits seit 2012 besteht und für alle 16 Bundesländer arbeitet. Die Weisung zum Tragen einer Fußfessel werde „zum überwiegenden Teil bei Sexualstraftaten angewandt“ sagte der Sprecher.
 
  • #555
True. Although could it be an incriminating factor if he talks to media but refuses to cooperate if there is a future MM trial?

The police can check anything he says, so if he gives clear reasons as to why he isn’t responsible they check & can eliminate him. Would you expect him to go into any detail about the MM case? I think he will never. He may tell the press he will only ever talk if it’s all about him & his gripes about his treatment.
He will deny it, of course. However, it’s more what can be inferred by what he says.

Now he’s out, I think the CB theory is done. Bits of info will drip through the media but it won’t be possible to believe either way - the trial was important.

Within a few years, there will be other theories and suspects.
 
  • #556
Okay so to set the record straight:

Electronic monitoring is not the norm in Germany. There are 129 people in the whole of Germany, mainly repeat sexual offenders, who wear it.

He will be under this strict supervision for 5 years, the maximum they would allow in general.
 
  • #557
I wrote it two times already: the pictures he took of his ex gf's child were on the devices taken during the domestic violence investigation way before the factory search. The identification of the girl in the pictures took some years, so he was finally convicted with that in March 2017, after factory searches. That conviction CANNOT possibly be the reason they did not accuse him of possessing images of child abuse for the factory "collection".
Can you please provide links ? Because from what I remember some of the same photos were found in the box factory, so they couldn't charge him again for the same crime of possession as they had already charged him for that together with the abuse of his gf's daughter.
 
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I cannot find it! Perhaps there are 1000 with supervision, but how could there be 1000 with electronic tagging from 70 that there were 8 years ago? Germany is very strict with this monitoring.

Actually, in August 2025 there were 129 people with an ankle monitor in the whole of Germany. Please tell me now this is not significant.


Berlin (dpa) - Bundesweit werden derzeit in 129 Fällen Straftäter mit einer elektronischen Fußfessel überwacht. Das teilte der Sprecher des hessischen Justizministeriums dem Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland (RND) mit. Dort ist die Gemeinsame elektronische Überwachungsstelle der Länder (GÜL) angesiedelt, die bereits seit 2012 besteht und für alle 16 Bundesländer arbeitet. Die Weisung zum Tragen einer Fußfessel werde „zum überwiegenden Teil bei Sexualstraftaten angewandt“ sagte der Sprecher.
Okay, the comment must’ve been that it’s normal for sex offenders of this type to be released under supervision.

I didn’t give the number a second thought because of how commonplace they are in the UK - 27k have tags, 12k have geolocation tags.
 
  • #559
I would be surprised if he talks to the media or sell any story. Can't see how he would manage not to incriminate himself easily sooner or later.
Maybe talk through letters. But even so, he was naive in some past ones when in prison.
He will want to hide quickly and back being a lone wolf.
IMO
He loves money. He has no money.
 
  • #560
He’s out. I hope the supervision doesn’t prevent him talking to the media. His story will be interesting whatever it is.

No doubt the interest is there, but I wonder if he will talk to the media? I'd imagine that his priority would be to disappear (in as much as he can with the conditions imposed) into the ether until he's forgotten about.

Time will tell.
 
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