Malaysia airlines 370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #25

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I really do not get why AUS has been burdened with much of the cost. It should be Malaysia and China but we all now how China is, they just don't care. In a country of over 1 billion people that don't care about 153 citizens that went down with the plane.

Malaysia should be footing most of the bill.

Agree. I think Malaysia should have footed at least 75% of the bill.

It is so creepy to think this jet could have been manned and glided. Wow. That tells me something sinister happened on board. I think one of the pilot was up to something anyways, Honestly though if it was out of fuel and glided how far can the jet go? A few miles? Would that really make much of a difference?

I personally do not think someone intentionally flew the plane in the water unless there was a gun to their head. I feel it's very important to find the plane to recover whatever can be recovered before the recorders are not recoverable. Look at Egypt Air Flight 804 and the problems they had to recover whatever data they did because of the salt water.
 
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Egypyt Air, I think its been determined a fire was on board so the jet crashed immed. which I don't believe is the case with MH370. I've heard people say fire there too, but if there was a fire there is no way the jet would have stayed in the air for as long as it did.

Transponder turned off and jet turned around with no MayDay call and narrowly avoided other country's airspace. I don't think that was just a coincidence.


Agree. I think Malaysia should have footed at least 75% of the bill.



I personally do not think someone intentionally flew the plane in the water unless there was a gun to their head. I feel it's very important to find the plane to recover whatever can be recovered before the recorders are not recoverable. Look at Egypt Air Flight 804 and the problems they had to recover whatever data they did because of the salt water.
 
  • #1,523
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...e-on-home-simulator.html?mid=twitter-share-di

New York
has obtained a confidential document from the Malaysian police investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 that shows that the plane’s captain, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, conducted a simulated flight deep into the remote southern Indian Ocean less than a month before the plane vanished under uncannily similar circumstances. The revelation, which Malaysia withheld from a lengthy public report on the investigation, is the strongest evidence yet that Zaharie made off with the plane in a premeditated act of mass murder-suicide.
 
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Egypyt Air, I think its been determined a fire was on board so the jet crashed immed. which I don't believe is the case with MH370. I've heard people say fire there too, but if there was a fire there is no way the jet would have stayed in the air for as long as it did.

Transponder turned off and jet turned around with no MayDay call and narrowly avoided other country's airspace. I don't think that was just a coincidence.

I agree with you.
IMO, this plane was purposely brought down.
Especially with ACARS being turned off, and the weird flight path the plane took as well...
 
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"The captain of missing flight MH370 practised crashing into the Indian Ocean on a simulator weeks before his plane disappeared, confidential police documents reveal.

The documents show that captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah practised flying across remote sections of the ocean until his plane ran out of fuel.

It suggests the disappearance of MH370 was not an accident, but a suicide mission meticulously planned by the pilot, New York magazine reported."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lot-practised-suicide-route-Indian-Ocean.html
 
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Wow! :eek:
 
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MH370 Search Winding Down with Little Results, But New Theory Emerging

July 22, 2016 6:25 pm


After two and a half years and more than 110,000 square kilometers of scouring the floor of the southern Indian Ocean, the hunt Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 will soon come to a close; at least for now.

But some experts say that the debris discovered so far indicates that the plane glided down to the surface of the ocean, instead of falling out of the sky in some way.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/search-mh370-winding-results-theory-emerging/story?id=40799668
 
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"The captain of missing flight MH370 practised crashing into the Indian Ocean on a simulator weeks before his plane disappeared, confidential police documents reveal.

The documents show that captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah practised flying across remote sections of the ocean until his plane ran out of fuel.

It suggests the disappearance of MH370 was not an accident, but a suicide mission meticulously planned by the pilot, New York magazine reported."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lot-practised-suicide-route-Indian-Ocean.html


This is not new news though, is it? They are re-publishing stuff that was in the media a long time ago. I remember when it was revealed from a confidential police document that there were multiple practise flights in the Captain's flight simulator, and that 5 or 6 of them had been deleted. A similar southern path was one of the deleted ones. It was well over a year ago.
At the time they (family? friends?) said he flew a lot in the simulator and would delete flight paths to make computer room for more ... or something like that.

I wonder if we will ever know what happened.
 
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Two years it took to figure that out.
 
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Egypyt Air, I think its been determined a fire was on board so the jet crashed immed. which I don't believe is the case with MH370. I've heard people say fire there too, but if there was a fire there is no way the jet would have stayed in the air for as long as it did.

Transponder turned off and jet turned around with no MayDay call and narrowly avoided other country's airspace. I don't think that was just a coincidence.

I follow Egypt Air Flight 804, they haven't determined anything for sure yet except it's looking like there were 2 fires, they do not know how they started, whether bomb or failure.

We've had Kate's husband Mark here a while ago, Kate is the gal who may have seen MH 370 on fire. They gave officials their GPS data, the route was adjusted. Mark said the night in question there were military vessels in the water too, other weird things going on like a buoy he's never seen. Mark makes a living working on them. I think they pretty much know what route the plane took because of the military and various radars that we're not privileged to. I bumped Mark's posts a few weeks ago, it's here

I think if and when MH370 is found, we're going to see fire damage.

This is not new news though, is it? They are re-publishing stuff that was in the media a long time ago. I remember when it was revealed from a confidential police document that there were multiple practise flights in the Captain's flight simulator, and that 5 or 6 of them had been deleted. A similar southern path was one of the deleted ones. It was well over a year ago.
At the time they (family? friends?) said he flew a lot in the simulator and would delete flight paths to make computer room for more ... or something like that.

I wonder if we will ever know what happened.

I wonder how typical it is for other sim pilots to do that too. I'm still not convinced he did that on purpose.
 
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I do think MH370 did a somewhat controlled landing simply from the lack of debris. If it crashed hard more pieces of the jet would have been found and bodies would have floated up to the surface. Nothing else makes sense.
 
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I do think MH370 did a somewhat controlled landing simply from the lack of debris. If it crashed hard more pieces of the jet would have been found and bodies would have floated up to the surface. Nothing else makes sense.

so he decided to suicide and take poor innocent people and children with him. ugh...Very selfish suicide. :(
 
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I do think MH370 did a somewhat controlled landing simply from the lack of debris. If it crashed hard more pieces of the jet would have been found and bodies would have floated up to the surface. Nothing else makes sense.

I agree with you. IIRC that model air plane should have floated when it hit the water.
 
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And even if we have an official verdict, I'm not sure I will believe it without some evidence other than conjecture about the pilot's practicing in the simulator.
 
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This is not new news though, is it? They are re-publishing stuff that was in the media a long time ago. I remember when it was revealed from a confidential police document that there were multiple practise flights in the Captain's flight simulator, and that 5 or 6 of them had been deleted. A similar southern path was one of the deleted ones. It was well over a year ago.
At the time they (family? friends?) said he flew a lot in the simulator and would delete flight paths to make computer room for more ... or something like that.

I wonder if we will ever know what happened.

I only follow MH370 from a distance and even I knew this ages ago!
 
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Seriously though what other reason did the pilot have to turn off the Transponder and Acars tracking?
 
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Seriously though what other reason did the pilot have to turn off the Transponder and Acars tracking?

Did he turn off the transponder and ACARS? Did someone else? Did the power to those units fail and they appeared to be turned off?
There are still too many questions .......

I too struggle with the scenario that this experienced pilot, who had flown so many people around the world safely, decided to take a large planeful of innocents with him on a final joyride to the Southern Ocean.
 
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Did he turn off the transponder and ACARS? Did someone else? Did the power to those units fail and they appeared to be turned off?
There are still too many questions .......

I too struggle with the scenario that this experienced pilot, who had flown so many people around the world safely, decided to take a large planeful of innocents with him on a final joyride to the Southern Ocean.

I think he was hijacked at the point that it shut off. If only their military did something after that! If only another countries military did something; we may not be "here" today
Prayers for the families
 
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Did he turn off the transponder and ACARS? Did someone else? Did the power to those units fail and they appeared to be turned off?
There are still too many questions .......

I too struggle with the scenario that this experienced pilot, who had flown so many people around the world safely, decided to take a large planeful of innocents with him on a final joyride to the Southern Ocean.

I think he was hijacked at the point that it shut off. If only their military did something after that! If only another countries military did something; we may not be "here" today
Prayers for the families

I don't buy this scenario that the pilot just decided to off himself and the passengers by flying off into the wild blue yonder. Did anyone ever find out if other pilots do "test runs" with simulators in their own homes? Just looked on line and there are so many "games" to practice flying with out there that anyone could access and learn from.

I question why this "new" info just happened to be released after a meeting was held to suspend the search when the last grid is completed? Was it a way to try to "calm the waters" for the surviving families so they wouldn't get too upset with ending the search?

I just wish they would hurry up and find this plane. Then maybe the surviving families and we could get some real answers.
 
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