Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #1

[MsFacetious]

So this is a SECOND "credible" witness, correct? Fisherman and businessman?
Any other possible witness sightings have not been on the news but in forums, right?

From New Strait Times (has been a good source so far):

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...claims-possible-sighting-of-airliner-1.505683

A businessman in Ketereh claimed that he saw a bright white light, believed to be of an aircraft's, descending at high speed towards the South China Sea via Bachok airspace about 1.45am on the day flight MH370 went missing.

 

[Leilei]

Don't some of these ships go out for days or weeks at a time?
I know it was said before that they would have to report what they saw when they came back in.
They don't generally have a way of communicating from out there.

If all they saw was a low flying aircraft, but not the crash... they may wait till they get back to report it. :twocents:
(Obviously if they saw the crash I would hope they would rush in to report it immediately!)

Absolutely, they are out for a while, but they are all so close together, would word travel about the fisherman's sighting? I also read that they have no real communication while they are out there, but it's been almost three days. Wouldn't more of them be coming back to the mainland by now?

And why not go interview each of them? Why wait for them to come back (if that's what is going on)? :twocents:

 

[belimom]

A question just flashed through my mind but figure the odds that it will be original.
First I wondered if airplanes have cameras. Big duh! What good is that when a plane goes down along with all the crew and passengers and everything else on board.

Since there's this stolen passports situation and there's a need to know who used those passports, without pictures from the assigned seats, how will this be possible?
I don't suppose pictures from within the the boarded plane are sent anywhere prior to take off. Is it possible they are?

They'll have to match passports to the surveillance of people who boarded the plane. Please tell me this is possible, is it?

This may have been answered already (it's several pages back), but they do have CCTV footage of the two with the stolen passports boarding the plane.

bbm

"I can confirm that we have the visuals of these two people on CCTV," Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said at a news conference late Sunday, adding that the footage was being examined. "We have intelligence agencies, both local and international, on board."


Hussein declined to give further details, saying it may jeopardize the investigation. Hussein said only two passengers had used stolen passports, and that earlier reports that the identities of two others were under investigation were not true.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-loses-contact-with-plane-carrying-23-people/

 

[MsFacetious]

Absolutely, they are out for a while, but they are all so close together, would word travel about the fisherman's sighting? I also read that they have no real communication while they are out there, but it's been almost three days. Wouldn't more of them be coming back to the mainland by now?

And why not go interview each of them? Why wait for them to come back (if that's what is going on)? :twocents:

Why not go out and find out what the floating objects are before they disappear?!
I can't even imagine them going out to interview people....
We STILL don't know if that oil/fuel is from a plane or not and all the "debris" are vanishing! :scared:

ALL of those things would be good to complete in a timely manner... but it isn't happening. :twocents:

 

[Leilei]

So this is a SECOND "credible" witness, correct? Fisherman and businessman?
Any other possible witness sightings have not been on the news but in forums, right?

Looking at Ketereh on the map, it is right on the coast of Malaysia, on the Gulf of Thailand, and would be either in the path or near the path of the flight...

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, still googling.

 

[Derryn Hunch]

To contradict my own belief that this is not a terrorist related attack, Australian media heading this for this article states that 5 checked in but failed to board... but I also read an official malaysian airlines release that their luggage was removed???


http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...fter-it-vanished/story-fnizu68q-1226849877056

 

[gregjrichards]

From New Strait Times (has been a good source so far):

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...claims-possible-sighting-of-airliner-1.505683

A businessman in Ketereh claimed that he saw a bright white light, believed to be of an aircraft's, descending at high speed towards the South China Sea via Bachok airspace about 1.45am on the day flight MH370 went missing.

Just to add I just saw this report on the airliners message board. I don't know the twitter source this user is copying from.
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stuyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2011, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted Mon Mar 10 2014 05:41:09 your local time (3 minutes 14 secs ago) and read 319 times:

Saw this tweet, has anybody heard about this..

#mh370 A passenger on the flight MU5093 from Xi'an to Singapore the same day said he saw fire on the sea from 1:30 to 2:30.#MalaysiaAirlines

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6016208/#100

 

[Waddles]

The pilot who was asked by aviation authorities to contact the flight and who said he heard mumbling and static etc. at 1:30am - wouldn't there be a recording of this? Are all communications recorded in planes?

 

[Leilei]

Why not go out and find out what the floating objects are before they disappear?!
I can't even imagine them going out to interview people....
We STILL don't know if that oil/fuel is from a plane or not and all the "debris" are vanishing! :scared:

ALL of those things would be good to complete in a timely manner... but it isn't happening. :twocents:

We really don't know anything, and that is scary. No answers, just more and more questions. The biggest being, WHERE IS THE PLANE?

Great googly moogly, this is nuts.

 

[gregjrichards]

Why not go out and find out what the floating objects are before they disappear?!
I can't even imagine them going out to interview people....
We STILL don't know if that oil/fuel is from a plane or not and all the "debris" are vanishing! :scared:

ALL of those things would be good to complete in a timely manner... but it isn't happening. :twocents:

I read that they sent ships to the area as soon as they could but by the time the got there it had disappeared. I know with the air France flight AF447 wreckage recovery I followed closely they winched people down from the aircraft to inspect and recover the debris.

 

[MsFacetious]

Indian sand artist Sudarshan Patnaik applies the final touches to a sand art sculpture he created wishing for the well being of the passengers of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, on a beach in Puri, in the eastern Indian state of Odisha, March 9, 2014.

http://in.finance.yahoo.com/photos/...plies-final-touches-sand-photo-160318050.html

 

[Leilei]

To contradict my own belief that this is not a terrorist related attack, Australian media heading this for this article states that 5 checked in but failed to board... but I also read an official malaysian airlines release that their luggage was removed???


http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...fter-it-vanished/story-fnizu68q-1226849877056

Yes, that was reported either last night or this morning. I only fly domestically (US), but if I check in and get a boarding pass, my bags go on that plane and to the destination on my ticket, even if I don't make the flight.

Why take the baggage off the flight? Is that normal for international travel?

 

[MsFacetious]

Yes, that was reported either last night or this morning. I only fly domestically (US), but if I check in and get a boarding pass, my bags go on that plane and to the destination on my ticket, even if I don't make the flight.

Why take the baggage off the flight? Is that normal for international travel?

To make it more difficult to blow up a plane.
So that someone can't check a bomb in their luggage... then not get on the flight.
As far as I know it's SUPPOSED to be fairly standard to remove luggage if the person doesn't board. :twocents:

 

[Leilei]

To make it more difficult to blow up a plane.
So that someone can't check a bomb in their luggage... then not get on the flight.
As far as I know it's SUPPOSED to be fairly standard to remove luggage if the person doesn't board. :twocents:

I guess I've never noticed since I've always made my flights :blushing:

 

[MsFacetious]

I guess I've never noticed since I've always made my flights :blushing:

My parents missed one from Utah to Arizona and their luggage was removed. :twocents:
That seems like the easiest thing anyway, because otherwise the airline has to fly the luggage back!

 

[Waddles]

So it departs 12:21am
what time was last official contact with plane? 1:22?
Pilot on request from authorities says he has contact 1:30am, hears static and mumbling
1:30 am signal suddenly disappears from Department of Civil Aviation radar
A bright falling light about 1:45am
is this right?

 

[gregjrichards]

We really don't know anything, and that is scary. No answers, just more and more questions. The biggest being, WHERE IS THE PLANE?

Great googly moogly, this is nuts.

It is very frustrating I agree I am constantly looking for updates and not sleeping much goodness knows how the families of the passengers and crew are managing to cope with no news. I know they won't be coping I can't think of another word to use in its place. I've been praying at mass and lighting candles for them all. It is heart breaking reading twitter updates from friends and family of the passengers and crew begging for them to get in touch.

 

[sherbetjello]

The United States extensively reviewed imagery taken by American spy satellites for evidence of a mid-air explosion, but saw none at all, an authoritative U.S. government source said. The source described U.S. satellite coverage of the region as thorough.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/10/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140310

So, so, so, so, SO, SO WEIRD!!!

Wow.

 

[MsFacetious]

So it departs 12:21am
what time was last official contact with plane?
Pilot on request from authorities says he has contact 1:30am, hears static and mumbling
1:30 am signal suddenly disappears from Department of Civil Aviation radar
A bright falling light about 1:45am
is this right?

This page should answer the questions about when it dropped off radar.
Also, it gives more information on how the radar works and everything. :seeya:

https://www.facebook.com/flightradar24

 

[Derryn Hunch]

Yes, that was reported either last night or this morning. I only fly domestically (US), but if I check in and get a boarding pass, my bags go on that plane and to the destination on my ticket, even if I don't make the flight.

Why take the baggage off the flight? Is that normal for international travel?

Its standard proceedure for pretty much all airlines domestic and international as far as I am aware.

I mean... if someone is that lacking in confidence in travelling too close to their own suitcase that it makes them decide to take the next flight, then its only fair the rest of us should take their advice and give them back the bags before we take-off hahaha