Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #1

[Tssiemer]

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nes-flight-370-whereabouts-still-unknown-live

Did that happen with United 93 as well? Calls would connect to the passengers cell phones and the phones would ping but no one picked up.


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[GinaSeikwa]

U.S. search and rescue forces have confirmed the floating object a Singapore search plane had detected on Sunday afternoon is not in any way connected to Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that has gone missing since early Saturday, according to a U.S. defense chief based in Vietnam.

http://tuoitrenews.vn/society/18186/floating-object-not-related-to-mh370-us-rescuers

They don't mention if the object in question is the "door". Which object?

I am qualified on the 777 and when I first saw the picture being circulated I didn't think it resembled a cabin door at all. It looks somewhat like an avionics bay hatch or similar. But now this has been dismissed as well??

 

[bexlex]

Yes isn't it? In many ways ignorance is bliss. If I thought about all the scary what ifs I wouldn't be able to go into work every day. I've often looked out over the sea of passengers and thought that in this crowd of 200 or so there are at least 4 people traveling on fake documents (and since joining WS I've added also 3 pedophiles and 2 rapists to the list . Really all we can do is remain vigilant.

So, I'm not the only one?

 

[gregjrichards]

This is moving so slowly that I can't help but think authorities are dragging their a$$e$ about this whole thing in hopes that anything out there will never be found.

I respectfully totally disagree the government and airline are under tremendous pressure from around the world to find this plane and the bodies of the people on it. They need to find out what happened to the plane so they can prevent it happening again. If terrorists have managed to successfully blow the plane up then they will be able to try it again anywhere in the world and we are all at risk. They will be doing everything humanely possible to find this plane but it is going to be very difficult.

 

[ElleElle]

Does anyone happen to know birds' flight migratory patterns/times over that area? It wouldn't be the first time birds have brought down a plane, I think.

Yes, but the thing with that as there were no distress signals, nothing.

 

[bexlex]

The media says that piece of debri is possibly the plane door but this reporter posted a pic of the door and the window is set to the side not centered.

https://twitter.com/jonostrower

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 6h
Unclear if that debris is related to #MH370, but the 777's passenger door windows are off-center and much smaller. http://bit.ly/1cMI8No

The door in the ocean could be the emergency hatch located on the wing.....

 

[ElleElle]

http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...s-plane-timeline-events-flight-mh370-20140309

From your link above:

"2.41 am - Malaysian air traffic control in Subang lost contact with the plane, some two hours after it left Kuala Lumpur.


6.30 am - The flight did not land in Beijing as scheduled."


No one thought it was suspicious the plane fell off the radar for 4 hours???:banghead:

 

[CARIIS]

idk that bothers me.

Why? ...

 

[popsicle]

In a massive international investigation, no early theory has emerged about what transpired on the airplane traveling at cruising altitude of 35,000 feet in good weather. The known sequence of events includes elements that seem different from anything in the annals of recent jetliner accidents.

"For now, it seems simply inexplicable," said Paul Hayes, director of safety and insurance at Ascend Worldwide, a British advisory and aviation data firm. "There's no leading theory," he noted, but jetliners "simply don't vanish or disintegrate" and fall out of the sky without warning, unless there is sabotage or some catastrophic structural failure. So far, investigators haven't hinted that they have firm leads on either front.

http://online.wsj.com/news/article_...4579429601988903972-lMyQjAxMTA0MDAwOTEwNDkyWj

 

[popsicle]

Why? ...

idk?..

 

[ilovepierre]

BBM ~ I believe the attack took place once plane was leveled, 911 style.

Very smart as air travel "was" too restricted to the point where you could not a bottle of lotion onboard.

This was a planned attack and the people took it down knew exactly how to do without leaving a trace. ie: emptying all the fuel.

Of course, moo.

I believe this was a planned attack too, but I still believe the intended target was China, not the middle of the sea. Something happened in that 40 minutes that caused a change in plans. Maybe passenger or crew tried to bring the terrorists down.

 

[gregjrichards]

This is all very weird.

Did the plane try to turn back? Why?
Why is there no divers yet?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if a plane lands on water with no fuel, will it implode on impact? Or hit so hard, it would "dive" into the sea?

The 2 stolen passports is not a surprise to me.

What i'd like to see is the CCTV footage of the passengers with the stolen passports.

Respectfully I don't understand your question why is there no divers yet where would they dive when no wreckage has been found yet? The searchers have to search thousand of nautical miles of water to find out where the wreckage is they can't just pick a part of the sea by guessing that's where the plane is and hope they get lucky.

Edit I read that a plane crashing into the sea at high speed may as we'll be hitting concrete. It depends on numerous factors the speed of the plane, the position of the plane when it hits the water, how far the plane has dropped in altitude etc etc.

My family and I have discussed this incident and are all in agreement that the sadly nearly all of plane is now down at the bottom of the sea in bits. I hope the navy ships involved in the search are equipped with sonar equipment to do a sweep of the ocean floor and they find pieces of material which need further investigation.

I am hopefully that wreckage will be found but it is going to take a while to find it. The governments involved cannot give up searching for the wreckage after a short while, it is paramount they find out how this plane crashed so they can try and prevent it happening again.

 

[panthera]

No. Considering a person can get a DIRECT flight to Frankfurt from Kuala Lumpur without having to connect in China. I pretended to book a flight on Malaysia Air and there are non-stop flights to Frankfurt.

The only reason I can think of that a person would require a stop-over in China is terrorism. I think this flight's intended target was China. For whatever reason, the attack never went as planned and was crashed into the ocean.

Agree. There is no explanation at this point for the plane to disappear off the radar without a trace, no contact from the plane communicating an emergency, other than something catastrophic occurring that immediately disabled it. Perhaps the intention wasn't to crash it into the ocean but to hijack it in the manner of the terrorists on 9/11 and target something in China, however something went wrong with the plan while attempting to overtake the plane?

MOO

 

[panthera]

Does anyone happen to know birds' flight migratory patterns/times over that area? It wouldn't be the first time birds have brought down a plane, I think.

I recall someone stating the aircraft would still be able to fly some distance (at least to a nearby airport) with one engine. There would also have been a communication from the cockpit indicating such an emergency.

MOO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Wow - they are all still reporting 2 hours - NBC, BBC, etc.
http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...s-plane-timeline-events-flight-mh370-20140309

12.40 am - Flight MH370, a Boeing 777-200 carrying 227 passengers from 14 nationalities along with 12 crew members, took off from the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur.

1.22 am - The plane was meant to transfer to Vietnam's Ho Chi Minh air traffic control but never appeared.

2.41 am - Malaysian air traffic control in Subang lost contact with the plane, some two hours after it left Kuala Lumpur
BBM
Just another example of not believing everything you read
What time did that other airliner communicate with them? They were apparently the last ones to make contact.

It sounds like someone has determined that 1:22 a.m. is truer time something happened as the plane never made contact with Ho Chi Minh air traffic control. That determines the 40 minutes. Why would they continue contact with Subang and not report entering VN air space?
Is this correct? Someone is mistaken.

 

[CARIIS]

http://asiancorrespondent.com/120373/live-search-continues-for-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/

10 seconds in picture of tail in water

http://www.smh.com.au/world/door-an...70-possibly-found-vietnam-20140310-hvgs6.html


Anyone find this statement odd?

3.18pm: Malaysia Airlines CEO, Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, has made a statement this afternoon:

In the event flight MH370 is located, a Response Control Centre (RCC) in the area will be activated to support the needs of families.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/120373/live-search-continues-for-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/


Here's What Happened The Last Time A Plane Disappeared Over The Ocean

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/malaysia-777-air-france-447-crash-2014-3#ixzz2vWUa6TsV



Only knew tidbit in this piece is kerosine has been tested - although I really do not think too many of us will be wurprised by the results
http://english.cntv.cn/program/general_news/20140310/101187.shtml

 

[popsicle]

No. Considering a person can get a DIRECT flight to Frankfurt from Kuala Lumpur without having to connect in China. I pretended to book a flight on Malaysia Air and there are non-stop flights to Frankfurt.

The only reason I can think of that a person would require a stop-over in China is terrorism. I think this flight's intended target was China. For whatever reason, the attack never went as planned and was crashed into the ocean.

I haven't flown a whole lot and never international but usually direct flights are more expensive aren't they?

 

[watcher9]

http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...s-plane-timeline-events-flight-mh370-20140309

Thanks for posting this timeline.

The plane left the airport at 12:40 am.
Then,
(snipped)

1.22 am - The plane was meant to transfer to Vietnam's Ho Chi Minh air traffic control but never appeared.

2.41 am - Malaysian air traffic control in Subang lost contact with the plane, some two hours after it left Kuala Lumpur.

How do the airports transfer the planes from one control to another?
Do the two airports verbally transfer the planes or does the plane just drop off the radar screen?
Is there a dead spot between the two radars?
Why would there be such a difference in time between these two events? Did they continue to have it on their radar during that time?
This reads like it took almost 1-1/2 hrs for Malaysian traffic control to realize they had lost contact with the plane.

 

[ElleElle]

Respectfully I don't understand your question why is there no divers yet where would they dive when no wreckage has been found yet? The searchers have to search thousand of nautical miles of water to find out where the wreckage is they can't just pick a part of the sea by guessing that's where the plane is and hope they get lucky.

Edit I read that a plane crashing into the sea at high speed may as we'll be hitting concrete. It depends on numerous factors the speed of the plane, the position of the plane when it hits the water, how far the plane has dropped in altitude etc etc.

My family and I have discussed this incident and are all in agreement that the sadly nearly all of plane is now down at the bottom of the sea in bits. I hope the navy ships involved in the search are equipped with sonar equipment to do a sweep of the ocean floor and they find pieces of material which need further investigation.

I am hopefully that wreckage will be found but it is going to take a while to find it. The governments involved cannot give up searching for the wreckage after a short while, it is paramount they find out how this plane crashed so they can try and prevent it happening again.

Hello, I just meant that there was the fuel/oil slick and they know approximately where the plan lost contact?

I do fully agree the plane crashed so hard the water it exploded and is on the bottom on the sea floor. I don't believe this plane hit land.

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but perhaps the bodies will float up soon one the gasses are released?

 

[ElleElle]

I believe this was a planned attack too, but I still believe the intended target was China, not the middle of the sea. Something happened in that 40 minutes that caused a change in plans. Maybe passenger or crew tried to bring the terrorists down.

This is possible, but I still find it hard to believe not one person or flight crew did not have communication. It seems to have happen so fast.

Also, how can a plane be taken down without explosives? Hold the cabin at what? gunpoint? knifepoint? how??:tantrum:

This is beginning to remind me of LOST.