Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #1

[revampz]

I don't think the govts or officials of the airline are hiding anything, however I am sure they are going to have all the i's dotted on this one before anything is officially announced as the whole world is watching and waiting, and there is already a lot of scrutiny about the stolen passports, the use of the other passport which had to be a fake, and I am also wondering about the 5 that didn't board............can they please tell us if it was one lot travelling together or not???

This alone is going to open up a can of worms on just how secure it REALLY is when you fly on an international flight (especially from some countries)........seems the public may have a false sense of security......well me certainly!! and if it isn't terrorism but mechanical of some sorty, there is going to be scrutiny over why this plane which had a broken wing repaired was deemed safe to fly....

So yep think they are going to be really careful about what and how the info is being released before some form of damage control can take place.

 

[atthelake]

Show starting right now on WEA channel "Why planes crash" ....Eastern US timezone....

FYI

 

[Plumeria5]

Here is the real Italian Luigi Maraldi:

Source:
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...nces-in-thailand/story-fnizu68q-1226849959855

So it would be interesting to see if the person who boarded using his passport looks a lot like Luigi.

 

[Plumeria5]

Probably had nothing to do with it but something to read.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-first-officer/

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Goodness, the media got the two hours into the flight wrong for days! Now, they are still doing “suspected” debris (like a white plastic object with what appears to be a window in it some miles away from where a jumbo 777 ER went poof!) could be “something” else!

Or what looks like 18 tons of jet fuel floating in the middle of the ocean some miles away from where a jumbo 777 ER went poof “might” be from a jetliner.. Same thing I can come up with all sorts of reasons, other than an airline disaster in the vicinity wherein 18 tons of jet fuel is swimming around on top of the ocean!!!

Or people not boarding aircraft, but sending their luggage and personal belongings to another side of the world for no evil purposes OR common travelers boarding jetliners with fake identities, for no “sneaky” reason all the time.

And the way it is S L O W L Y being dribbled out god knows what is next.

At this point I hope it is because it is the weekend and media superstars are off – it’s becoming silly, IMO!

I was thinking the same thing about it being the weekend and not important enough news to offer fulltime coverage. Which, imo, is really sad. BUT there's a whole other 'world' besides America and I don't know what the people there are saying.

Since we're all considered to be global now, we should all be equally concerned about tragedies such as this one independent of the nationality of the majority of victims claimed.

That said, the idea of world peace with 100 percent cooperation is so idealistic that wishing for it seems a fruitless endeavor imo. All this said, if this is an accident versus terrorism, it still is of universal concern imo.

And I'm hating that this story has such strong ties to a country I grew to love, Thailand. Although being accutely aware that eyes are closed to much 'sin' there as exists within so many locations on earth.

Lastly, if I would have asked people to refrain from criticizing or making jokes about President Bush a few years back, would my request have been respected? :floorlaugh: That man was put through the wringer day in and day out for years. One little joke can be overlooked in return, no?

 

[CARIIS]

I don't think the govts or officials of the airline are hiding anything, however I am sure they are going to have all the i's dotted on this one before anything is officially announced as the whole world is watching and waiting, and there is already a lot of scrutiny about the stolen passports, the use of the other passport which had to be a fake, and I am also wondering about the 5 that didn't board............can they please tell us if it was one lot travelling together or not???

This alone is going to open up a can of worms on just how secure it REALLY is when you fly on an international flight (especially from some countries)........seems the public may have a false sense of security......well me certainly!! and if it isn't terrorism but mechanical of some sorty, there is going to be scrutiny over why this plane which had a broken wing repaired was deemed safe to fly....

So yep think they are going to be really careful about what and how the info is being released before some form of damage control can take place.

I agree with the overall theme here - I think most of us are just over them not being able to get some basics into a cohesive whole - by this point I think the world is trained to know govt's are not forthcoming, honest, or transparent.........

 

[redheadedgal]

The door in the ocean could be the emergency hatch located on the wing.....

https://twitter.com/TrongKhanhVu/status/442653199682383873/photo/1

vs.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2857/9421817712_c858b4dae9_z.jpg




http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/0/5/1895503.jpg

 

[ElleElle]

When the plane exploded the passengers also exploded. imo

Agreed. :blushing:

On a side note, the photo of the debris appears to be a window to me.

 

[popsicle]

In the Details of Passengers’ Lives, Signs of Hope and Prosperity

It was one of his first trips abroad, maybe even the first. Wang Moheng was just shy of his second birthday. His parents took him and two of his grandparents to the tropics of Malaysia, with its sunshine and moist air and blue skies.

snip

Other families from the center had joined them on vacation, she said, but returned on different flights. They bid farewell to Moheng’s family in Kuala Lumpur, the Malaysian capital, with the words, “See you in smoggy Beijing.”

The family of five was among 239 passengers and crew members to have vanished with Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, which left Kuala Lumpur early Saturday for Beijing but never arrived.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/w...f-hope-and-prosperity.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

 

[forthelost]

The co-pilot on this flight, Fariq Abdul Hamid, was only 27 years old...Wonder what the average age is for co-pilots on commercial airlines...Not implying the co-pilot is to blame here, however his age and the fact that he carries a Muslim name, has not gone unnoticed...

Sixty-one percent of Malaysia is Muslim. I'd be more surprised if the pilots weren't Muslim.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

And to think I once had to hand over my tiny little cuticle scissors, my favorite ones.

Went through the equivalent of Fort Knox to renew my dl that had expired since moving from a different state even though I lived here prior for thirty years.

I don't get how people get away with the things they do.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Sixty-one percent of Malaysia is Muslim. I'd be more surprised if the pilots weren't Muslim.

True. Southern Thailand is heavily Muslim as well.

 

[popsicle]

Don't even start on the DMV thing :lol:

 

[Derryn Hunch]

Oh yes. They would need to land and loss of one engine by itself would leave all electrical power available. Radios, transponder, would all still work.

No birds up there, of course.

Even with both engines out then provided it isn't due to fuel starvation (empy tanks!) then the APU would provide full power of all systems.

If the aircraft has no fuel on board to run any engines, then there is the emergency generator turbine that can be deployed like a little windmill of savior to maintain power independently of the aircraft's other possibly failures.

It provides enough to operate the backup ADI unit, radio coms. and critical controls required to keep the aircraft flying.

 

[revampz]

well I have just been scouring the aviation forums, and I have to got to say they really don't have an idea of what could have happened either........no one really has a plausible theory either because of lack of debris, oil, distress calls etc.

 

[momrids6]

Margins are blown... can someone resize their pics please?


Vietnam says cannot find object from missing jet

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia: Vietnamese searchers on ships worked throughout the night but could not find a rectangle object spotted Sunday afternoon that was thought to be one of the doors of a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet that went missing more than two days ago.

Doan Huu Gia, the chief of Vietnam’s search and rescue coordination centre, said Monday that six planes and seven ships from Vietnam were searching for the object but nothing had been found.

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...ge=0/7.225122/7.224368/7.425366#ixzz2vWlrAaNd

 

[revampz]

One thing I have been wondering.....have they announced that the flight was delayed in taking off?? and if it was delayed would this have made much difference to where the plane disappeared???

The reason I ask this is, because I have been on a couple of domestic flights her in Australia where the passengers haven't boarded. It causes a lot of disruption and always delays the departure time as they have to wait until everyone is boarded, then determine that there are passengers missing, call for them throughout the terminal and departures, give them a certain amount of time to then board....especially if their luggage is aboard.....once they have determined they cant find them: which in itself is odd as they have checked in their luggage, and then they have to go thru the luggage and take it off the plane....all of this is time consuming........unless they are a family or group travelling together and maybe one gets sick and they tell them they aren't going ahead with the flight.........even in this case they would have been delayed somewhat getting the luggage off....

I'd like a bit more info on the 5 that didn't board...

 

[GinaSeikwa]

There are no over wing window exits on the 777. Only doors.

 

[GinaSeikwa]

Vietnam says cannot find object from missing jet

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia: Vietnamese searchers on ships worked throughout the night but could not find a rectangle object spotted Sunday afternoon that was thought to be one of the doors of a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet that went missing more than two days ago.

Doan Huu Gia, the chief of Vietnam’s search and rescue coordination centre, said Monday that six planes and seven ships from Vietnam were searching for the object but nothing had been found.

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...ge=0/7.225122/7.224368/7.425366#ixzz2vWlrAaNd

Oh for goodness sakes!

 

[Plumeria5]

If this doesn't break your heart...

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/5...a-plane-crash-pilot-daughter-tweets-viral.htm

I am reading her tweets as she "talks" to her dad.