Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #13

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  • #621
Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(

So sorry to hear this. I'll keep all involved in my thoughts along with those from MH370.
 
  • #622
I find the co-pilot more suspicious than the pilot.
In fact, I don't think the pilot is responsible at all!
 
  • #623
Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(

So sorry! Too much tragedy!
 
  • #624
Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(

Oh my so very sorry to hear this
 
  • #625
Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(

That is awful. So sorry.
 
  • #626
because the aircraft gets de-pressurized quickly and disintegrates. I may not be correct, JMO.



If the deomp does not cause pretty instant structural failure , if the plane can get down to 10000 no masks are needed and quite a few have decomp and landed!

These folks flew for quite some time - it was , however very windy!

https://www.google.com/search? q=al...Fdeicinginnovations.com%2F%3Fp%3D3015;494;328

ANd this one has Greg in it hes awesome NTSB guy -you think you all have seen a lot Ms Schiavo this guy will probably come out of the woodwork after it does not become political to have NTSB really in compete control of this mess!


Boeing 737 Roof Falls off Mid Flight: Aloha Airlines Flight 243 - YouTube

These guys also had the ride of their of lives:
a National Airlines DC-10-10 aircraft the aircraft was cruising at 39,000 feet (12,000 m) 65 miles southwest of Albuquerque, the No. 3 engine fan assembly disintegrated in an uncontained failure. Its fragments penetrated the fuselage, the Nos. 1 and 2 engine nacelles, and the right wing area. The resultant damage caused decompression of the aircraft cabin and the loss of certain electrical and hydraulic systems.[3]
National Airlines Flight 27 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This was a big big one;

This crash was filmed live and aired live as it happened - it was unreal the first time I saw it. THe reason why it was caught on tape was because they had a lot of trouble controlling the plane and the news media got wiff of the landing and was all set up when she crashed. Cockpit crew widly heralded -- they got her down powering up and down on the two remaining engines. An amazing feat of airmanship - and he was very humble throughout

DC-10 UA232 Crash - From Start To Finish - United Airlines Flight 232 - YouTube



crash-landed in Sioux City, Iowa, after suffering catastrophic failure of its tail-mounted engine, which led to the loss of all flight controls

Captain Alfred C. Haynes - YouTube

These folks had fatal ending:

DC-10 Turkish Airlines crash at Paris /3-3-1974 - YouTube


Turkish Airlines Flight 981 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
  • #627
Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(


How awful!


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  • #628
Good eve all :seeya: Been popping in and out today. Quietly following along. Not much to add I guess. Melancholy.
 
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Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(

Horrible. Into water?
 
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Yeah, like the old fashioned satellite dishes people use to have in their yards before they were made small enough to fit on a roof. They do still have those kinds of satellites. They're ground control satellites.

Nitpicking from a couple of hours ago, but: a "satellite" specifically means something in orbit. You mean a ground control station. (Well, you're alternately talking about tv receiver dishes I guess, which is also not a satellite.)

I stand by my original assertion that applying technology from fictional TV shows is a bad idea, especially in service of the idea that "hackers" are shooting down planes from the ground.
 
  • #635
It's not looking great for the co-pilot right now is it....

Still not seeing the "conspiracy" between these two pilots, even though each has his own baggage, so to speak, in the possibility one or both of them purposely downed the plane. First we have the pilot with his flight simulator and deleted files (OMG! He deleted files!) on it and now with the co-pilot he's allowed guests into the cockpit and smoked. If anything it appears the co-pilot likes to bend the rules bordering on negligence. Now to make it all worse, the passengers have been "investigated" and no one appears to be sending up and red flags...so it MUST be the pilots.

Is there any possibility with what we do know that the plane suffered some catastrophic malfunction rendering the pilots incapable of flying the aircraft? Is there any justification for the transponder being turned off and flight path altered? Please!

MOO
 
  • #636
Yeh I only have the info in the article to go off right now, he's being interviewed by police so I can't get hold of him
 
  • #637
Still not seeing the "conspiracy" between these two pilots, even though each has his own baggage, so to speak, in the possibility one or both of them purposely downed the plane. First we have the pilot with his flight simulator and deleted files (OMG! He deleted files!) on it and now with the co-pilot he's allowed guests into the cockpit and smoked. If anything it appears the co-pilot likes to bend the rules bordering on negligence. Now to make it all worse, the passengers have been "investigated" and no one appears to be sending up and red flags...so it MUST be the pilots.

Is there any possibility with what we do know that the plane suffered some catastrophic malfunction rendering the pilots incapable of flying the aircraft? Is there any justification for the transponder being turned off and flight path altered? Please!

MOO

I'm sorry, but, IMHO ... The sequence of events points to no. :truce:
 
  • #638
Damn... my mate in QLD is out at Caboolture airfield right now - he was taking his son up for a flight this arvo, just witnessed a plane go in... all 6 on board dead :(

So very sorry...

:(
 
  • #639
Which, IMO, all of the above is completely ridiculous in terms of the other side of the analogy dealing with commercial aircrafts, that carry civilian passengers.. Why in the hell-o would these all important NECESSITIES even have the ability to be turned OFF??..As far as I can tell, in speaking specifically about civilian passenger aircrafts, there is truly no good reason for powering off these necessities during any commercial flight that is carrying civilian passengers...So, WHY, WHY, WHY are these utmost of important tools even made to have the ability to be powered OFF??...IMO, that should not even be an available option..jmo.

*and to clarify..I am not saying the above member's post is ridiculous, I am saying that commercial aircraft that carry civilian passengers should not even have the ability to be powered off(tracking, communication, etc. abilities)

**Please forgive the limitations that come w/my posting via mobile ATM**

Hi Smoothie :seeya: glad to see you here!

BBM Just jumping in tonight so my apologies if this has been answered. From what I've learned from following this thread is that the option to turn off the transponder is there in case of an electrical problem that may involve the transponder. The pilot has to have the option to turn off anything that may be involved in any kind of malfunction.
 
  • #640
Yeh I only have the info in the article to go off right now, he's being interviewed by police so I can't get hold of him

Thanks. Maybe just into liftoff and crashed. So horrible.
 
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