Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #13

[panthera]

I'm sorry, but, IMHO ... The sequence of events points to no. :truce:

Unfortunately I am beginning to agree...

If it weren't for the transponder, ACARS and what appears to be a deliberate change in flight plan I wouldn't even be considering it. However, after hours watching CNN and listening to what is being said, it doesn't look good for either the pilot or co-pilot. Unless someone else was allowed in the cockpit who should not have been.

MOO

 

[mck16]

http://www.news.com.au/national/que...oolture-airfield/story-fnii5v6w-1226861972646

So sad.

 

[Peliman]

In case you missed this, this interview is with the satellite company, you might want to listen. He gives more details in the interview.

Inmarsat is a technical advisor to the investigation and the company’s senior vice president Chris McLaughlin said it was his company who determined that the plane’s signals continued to be received for a several hours after takeoff.

“Just like a cell phone, each piece of equipment has its own SIM card and its own registration number,” McLaughlin said. “We’re absolutely certain we were seeing the readings from this particular aircraft.”

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/03/20/inmarsat-flight-370s-location

 

[Tiepos]

because the aircraft gets de-pressurized quickly and disintegrates. I may not be correct, JMO.



If the deomp does not cause pretty instant structural failure , if the plane can get down to 10000 no masks are needed and quite a few have decomp and landed!

These folks flew for quite some time - it was , however very windy!

**snipping to prevent a huge post**

The key difference between every instance you posted, and MH370 - is that all of the other instances had a crew to control the aircraft manually, because “normal” flight was impossible.

In every catastrophic theory presented regarding MH370 - the crew is incapacitated.

So how does the plane keep flying for more than 7 hours?

 

[Steely Dan]

Good eve all :seeya: Been popping in and out today. Quietly following along. Not much to add I guess. Melancholy.

:seeya:

 

[Snoods]

Oh! He said, "Alright, goodnight".

As much as people don't like this, I still find the co-pilot suspicious. :twocents:

No worries, we all have our theories! We should be able to mull about all possible scenarios (within TOS, of course) or we wouldn't be Websleuths!

 

[CARIIS]

So very sorry...

That is terrible

 

[fruity]

Derryn I just saw that on the news. Skydiving plane?

 

[ElleElle]

I find the co-pilot more suspicious than the pilot.
In fact, I don't think the pilot is responsible at all!

Nope, the pilot has nothing to do with this, IMO.

 

[mck16]

These guys who are doing this search are amazing. So brave. It almost defies what a human being can do. I am truly in awe. jmo

 

[CARIIS]

#1 Pacific Ocean (35,837 ft) (10,924 meters)

#2 Atlantic Ocean (30,246 ft) (9,219 meters)

#3 Indian Ocean (24,460 ft) (7,455 meters)

#4 Southern Ocean (23,737 ft) (7,236 meters)

#5 Caribbean Sea (22,788 ft) (6,946 meters)

#6 Arctic Ocean (18,456 ft) (5,625 meters)

#7 South China Sea (16,456 ft) (5,016 meters)

#8 Bering Sea (15,659 ft) (4,773 meters)

#9 Mediterranean Sea (15,197 ft) (4,632 meters)

#10 Gulf of Mexico (12,425 ft) (3,787 meters)

Ocean Sizes and more

http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/deepest.htm

 

[CARIIS]

Nope, the pilot has nothing to do with this, IMO.

I agree in a context, I do not know who but I think one 1 was in on it --passengers paricpants -- all carefully planned in my opinion. And not conspir person. I am not!

Just WAY to much stuff going on here !

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

The anniversary of Osama bin laden death May 2, 2011 in Pakistan, is coming up, and Passover is April 14 -22, and there will be a blood red moon.

Ok, that's pretty weird. Not to creep anyone out, but...when I was a young teenager I had a highly detailed, intense dream about the end of the world. A blood red moon figured prominently in that dream, as did tidal waves and a sky on fire.

Not to alarm you, and I don't usually go much into dreams and their significance. But I have had at least two other dreams of that same level of intensity (14 and 13 years ago) that that turned out to bear major significance in my life.

Hmm. Okay, back to our regularly scheduled speculating...

 

[Steely Dan]

Ok, this has been bugging me.



Malaysia Airlines and the case of the missing legs
By Terri Rupar
March 12 at 2:32 pm

...The New Straits Times reports that Malaysian police said there was no purposeful doctoring of the photographs -- the photo of one man was simply placed on top of the photo of the other when they were photocopied....




So one photo was placed on top of the other? :waitasec:

I don't understand how doing that could cause that. Look at my experiment below.



Now let's put one photo on top of the other and photocopy it.



That explanation makes no sense to me. Can someone explain how I'm thinking wrong on this? :waitasec:


Anyone who would like a framed copy of my art work can contact me for my Paypal account number. Each one is $1,000 and comes in a beautiful $10 frame.

 

[ElleElle]

Still not seeing the "conspiracy" between these two pilots, even though each has his own baggage, so to speak, in the possibility one or both of them purposely downed the plane. First we have the pilot with his flight simulator and deleted files (OMG! He deleted files!) on it and now with the co-pilot he's allowed guests into the cockpit and smoked. If anything it appears the co-pilot likes to bend the rules bordering on negligence. Now to make it all worse, the passengers have been "investigated" and no one appears to be sending up and red flags...so it MUST be the pilots.

Is there any possibility with what we do know that the plane suffered some catastrophic malfunction rendering the pilots incapable of flying the aircraft? Is there any justification for the transponder being turned off and flight path altered? Please!

MOO

BBM~ This alone, does not equate to catastrophic event, IMO.

Still, there is the most acceptable theory of something happening inside MH370 (fire?) and everyone onboard was incapacitated, and it flew auto-pilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed.

 

[mck16]

Ok, this has been bugging me.



Malaysia Airlines and the case of the missing legs
By Terri Rupar
March 12 at 2:32 pm

...The New Straits Times reports that Malaysian police said there was no purposeful doctoring of the photographs -- the photo of one man was simply placed on top of the photo of the other when they were photocopied....




So one photo was placed on top of the other? :waitasec:

I don't understand how doing that could cause that. Look at my experiment below.



Now let's put one photo on top of the other and photocopy it.



That explanation makes no sense to me. Can someone explain how I'm thinking wrong on this? :waitasec:


Anyone who would like a framed copy of my art work can contact me for my Paypal account number. Each one is $1,000 and comes in a beautiful $10 frame.

Seems to me it had to be done intentionally. As in one cut or folded to match the other photo. Maybe on a computer but not a copy machine. jmo

 

[Holly G. Lightly]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/08/pilot-on-way-to-japan-says-he-made-contact-with-missing-malaysian-flight/

Oh boy! I have so many questions about this.

This is about the communication between the Japanese pilot and MH370 at Vietnamese ATC's request.

 

[ElleElle]

Ok, this has been bugging me.

Malaysia Airlines and the case of the missing legs
By Terri Rupar
March 12 at 2:32 pm

...The New Straits Times reports that Malaysian police said there was no purposeful doctoring of the photographs -- the photo of one man was simply placed on top of the photo of the other when they were photocopied....


<snipped<

That explanation makes no sense to me. Can someone explain how I'm thinking wrong on this? :waitasec:

Anyone who would like a framed copy of my art work can contact me for my Paypal account number. Each one is $1,000 and comes in a beautiful $10 frame.

:laughcry: You forget the hands!

Steely, imagine they were "photoshopped" for a reason? Why? What are they hiding? A logo, patch, shoe bomb? What??!

I think its a processing error as they added legs to make the one picture complete because whoever got it screwed up, IMO.

 

[Isabelle]

In case you missed this, this interview is with the satellite company, you might want to listen. He gives more details in the interview.

Inmarsat is a technical advisor to the investigation and the company’s senior vice president Chris McLaughlin said it was his company who determined that the plane’s signals continued to be received for a several hours after takeoff.

“Just like a cell phone, each piece of equipment has its own SIM card and its own registration number,” McLaughlin said. “We’re absolutely certain we were seeing the readings from this particular aircraft.”

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/03/20/inmarsat-flight-370s-location

The man says a cause for the Ping to stop is the plane ran out of fuel. Earlier he says the engines power the system. If the plane landed and engines off wouldn't pinging cease the same. Boy this one big mess!

 

[CARIIS]

The key difference between every instance you posted, and MH370 - is that all of the other instances had a crew to control the aircraft manually, because “normal” flight was impossible.

In every catastrophic theory presented regarding MH370 - the crew is incapacitated.

So how does the plane keep flying for more than 7 hours?

It depends are where one is. I do not think it was mechanical, fire, etc. I think any incapation that incurred was a result of the bad guys getting one of the flight crew out of the cockpit. I also believe that one of the outsiders was highly highly skilled and that person took a seat in the cockpit or no pilots involved and others got the two out of the cockpit and took over but very sohpisticated aviators .

Its like , no airplane, if whatever happened, to the degree that it wiped out 229 people prior to whatever its final fate was - could not fly the 90 minutes over land much less 7 hours while making changes.

If the changes were congrunt with fight coordinates put it at the onset of the flight (ie head to china!) then that makes sense.

But at no time in 7 hours was this plane "out of control " in any manner. A plane in that much distress is going to ultimately be flying erratically.

HOw could it be any other way

Swiss air makes sense - in that the fire destroyed any and all methods of controling the machine --everything was burning up it crashed. Rather quickly.

I guess I am asking (fire) would one expect an automobile to drive for 4 hours on 4 flat tires with the engine on fire! Make turns. Stop at the lights! go the speed limit!

In any context this notion makes no sense! IF a shark ate off someones leg (!) would one expect that individual to swim 3 hours to shore.

It cant be both ways - problem so severe to incapacate - while not progessing to actually destroying the plane or car for that matter in and of iteself

Or a kitchen fire that kills the cook, burns for 7 hours but their are no remnants of a burned out structure!

Does that make sense?