Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #18

[CARIIS]

I think the clinicians working witht he familes are dong a diservice its time to encourage your clients to go home, vacuum, do the dishes, sleep in your bed, pet your pet, use your own toothbrush , do some laundry, move forward say goodbye and move forward...... they are going to have to do such in time, start now ............its abuse .........enough .... go home.....vent your anger at losses...........not a govt entity its misplaced anger in the cycle of grief and impedes authentic healing that must at the end of the day be completed to move forward just IMO!

they are supporting being stagnant and stuck ................therapy when done well is solely about moving forward with whatever the stop sign is about ..............

It sounds to me like many families think the officials are completely wrong about the Indian Ocean, and they still it's possible that the plane was hijacked and the hijackers r keeping everyone alive for some reason - perhaps for secret negotiations or perhaps for future negotiations.

I cannot imagine what these families are going through.

The problem is that hijacking by terrorists would open a whole host of problems - suddenly the governmental politics would come into play, also secrecy due to sensitive-nature ongoing investigation and countries not wanting to give up intelligence secrets.

So as long as the possibility of terrorist hijacking is alive (with no plane found), then IMO there will always be mistrust as to the information the governments are giving them.

I don't really see a solution to this besides the plane being found.

JMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

Well, I think Malaysia would lose a lot of tourism. It is a beautiful, tropical country, hence why there were a lot of Chinese on vacation there.

Malaysia could lose massive tourist $$$. This year has been earmarked as Visit Malaysia Year 2014 (VMY 2014). They have been busy building infrastructure and promoting this event with the intention of attracting 28.8 million tourists this year alone.


The Prime Minister is very nervous that losing MH370 could affect this event.
http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...70-tragedy-would-not-affect-vmy-2014-1.539826


If you look at this promotional site, they have even added a pop-up that expresses condolences to the families of MH370.
http://www.vmy2014.com/

 

[Brightbird]

Playing devils advocate a bit here. Suppose all the rumours about the Captain Shah's mental state are true. Maybe he had been withdrawn over marital issues and highly distressed over the outcome of the Anwar case. Maybe he was in no state to fly. He could have set an incorrect setting into the system before take off. Something mechanical might have happened and he wasn't thinking clearly to respond. The co-pilot was very new the 777s. One pilot who is emotionally distressed and another who is experienced is not a good combo. That said, I don't really buy into the reports that he wasn't fit to fly. Just thinking.

 

[LambChop]

Playing devils advocate a bit here. Suppose all the rumours about the Captain Shah's mental state are true. Maybe he had been withdrawn over marital issues and highly distressed over the outcome of the Anwar case. Maybe he was in no state to fly. He could have set an incorrect setting into the system before take off. Something mechanical might have happened and he wasn't thinking clearly to respond. The co-pilot was very new the 777s. One pilot who is emotionally distressed and another who is experienced is not a good combo. That said, I don't really buy into the reports that he wasn't fit to fly. Just thinking.

Didn't Anwar receive a 5 year sentence? That does not seem like a reason to be emotionally distressed. At the very least I don't think he would want to do anything that would paint Anwar in a negative light. And those you leave behind, this would be the worst on them. I don't know, it just does not seem like something a pilot would do. jmo

 

[Soulmagent]

It is always a worry when an article says "And it's real, this is NOT a hoax."


It is like this CNN ireport I saw yesterday that claims Australia has taken and hidden MH370, and repainted the plane using ... wait for it ... Mangosteen dye!

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1108542

really ? They said that?

 

[Brightbird]

Malaysia could lose massive tourist $$$. This year has been earmarked as Visit Malaysia Year 2014 (VMY 2014). They have been busy building infrastructure and promoting this event with the intention of attracting 28.8 million tourists this year alone.


The Prime Minister is very nervous that losing MH370 could affect this event.
http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...70-tragedy-would-not-affect-vmy-2014-1.539826


If you look at this promotional site, they have even added a pop-up that expresses condolences to the families of MH370.
http://www.vmy2014.com/

This makes me sad. Think about the people who rely on tourism to make their living. People who have probably been investing into their businesses for this event. This is where I think the media does a lot of damage when they contribute to the overall negative perception of Malaysia.

 

[TDoc72]

Or "now confirmed 100 percent true".

Or this gem:
"This left the engineers hands free. This would have made it possible for him to pull his Iphone 5 (a fact confirmed by the Exif data) out of his butt as stated, and use the voice command ability of the Iphone to just talk to it to log in and post the message."

:facepalm: :facepalm:

But the picture was so clear!!!:floorlaugh:

 

[cady]

Question for Aussies.........is Pearce Air Base HOUSING all the international crewpeople? I would think it would be sort of a nightmare security-wise? just wondering jmo

 

[gregjrichards]

WARNING ALERT - CNN reports there will be a press conference with the Australian Prime Minister to provide an update on the search shortly. I will post a time as soon as I know CNN should be covering it live.

 

[SouthAussie]

This makes me sad. Think about the people who rely on tourism to make their living. People who have probably been investing into their businesses for this event. This is where I think the media does a lot of damage when they contribute to the overall negative perception of Malaysia.

Yes, it is sad. They are/were even hoping that VMY 2014 would provide jobs to 4,200 unemployed Malaysian people.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

:jail::jail:

I feel like I am in CNN jail! Why can't another news agency have more coverage of this search.

It makes me so angry to just hear the same thing over and over....which essentially is just fluff to fill air time. It is so aggravating!!!!!

:tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:

 

[Brightbird]

Didn't Anwar receive a 5 year sentence? That does not seem like a reason to be emotionally distressed. At the very least I don't think he would want to do anything that would paint Anwar in a negative light. And those you leave behind, this would be the worst on them. I don't know, it just does not seem like something a pilot would do. jmo

This sentence is just the latest in the whole saga. He was first sentenced in 1998, overturned in 2004, charged again in 2008, acquitted in 2012. The acquittal was overturned on March 7 meaning that he was not eligible to stand in the elections. Yeah I think it is something to be upset over, especially to supporters of Anwar's party that advocates for democracy and human rights. But I agree with everything else you said.

 

[Steely Dan]

:sigh: :waiting:

 

[Soulmagent]

But the picture was so clear!!!:floorlaugh:

They are talking about geotags on the photo .

I did the look up info on the photo and ..it does what it says. However can geotags be faked?

 

[LinasK]

n. I have not watched so much news since 9/11.


with N Korea stating it has no issues with firing off some nuclear junk

California about to fall into the ocean

everyone in Texas about to die from dehydration cause they are out of water


witht he northeast moving iceburgs

with britan recovering from the biggest floods in its hitory

with Putin invading other nations

we may be a very busy bunch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're still here!:seeya: California hasn't fallen into the ocean and LA is still intact. Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[mck16]

This makes me sad. Think about the people who rely on tourism to make their living. People who have probably been investing into their businesses for this event. This is where I think the media does a lot of damage when they contribute to the overall negative perception of Malaysia.

I agree with you. This was an accident and the people or government of Malaysia had nothing to do with it. It was a plane crash. It should not affect the country or tourism at all. jmo

 

[Spellbound]

Didn't Anwar receive a 5 year sentence? That does not seem like a reason to be emotionally distressed. At the very least I don't think he would want to do anything that would paint Anwar in a negative light. And those you leave behind, this would be the worst on them. I don't know, it just does not seem like something a pilot would do. jmo

I don't think he even went to prison, since his attorneys won a stay pending appeal.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/us-malaysia-anwar-idUSBREA260HM20140307

 

[LinasK]

Oh please, another lawsuit?? The captain's job is complete control of the plane, somehow he lost that or allowed it to happen, I'm sorry, he's at fault.

I totally agree with you- whether he's officially a POI or not, I believe there is more than enough evidence to show that there was no malfunction, this plane was taken down deliberately, and that was done by one/both of the captains!!! This is IMO and I believe Captain Shah is not a good man. I can't understand the posters that want to elevate him to sainthood and refuse to believe pilot suicide can happen!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[mysteriew]

Question about the suicide theory..... didn't I hear in initial reports that the plane was only carrying enough fuel to get it to it's destination? Which wasn't enough fuel to get it to the Indian Ocean. So how would a suicidial pilot working alone be able to get the extra fuel loaded?

 

[Brightbird]

I don't think he even went to prison, since his attorneys won a stay pending appeal.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/us-malaysia-anwar-idUSBREA260HM20140307

Yes but it's irrelevant whether he went to prison or not. He was unable to stand in this months elections because of his conviction.