Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #2

[Blue_Dolphin308]

How do we know what the military radar picked up was this flight, assuming this is correct information.


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It seems like we cannot believe anything right now because it keeps changing from minute to minute. I wish they would designate ONE agency to deal with the media, and strictly the media. So maybe we can get accurate information. But as it stands now it changes every news conference!

 

[What'sThatClue]

You know when I look at that Map and see that it had to cross over land (people) I am some what surprised it was not shot down. Surely they would have seen the turn and tried to make contact, no? Once there was no communication wouldn't it have been viewed as a threat?
This is scary.

One of my thoughts exactly. But it doesn't explain how no one saw anything.

In the US, if a plane stopped responding and changed course, we'd most likely scramble jets and shoot it down if necessary. JMO But in this case we have no explosions recorded and no witnesses over what is supposed to be a busy area. And I question why, if the Malaysian Military had known the plane veered off course, they kept quiet for so long.

I doubt the plane was shot down but, who knows. JMO

 

[shadowdancer]

Stolen to order??

Now that is an interesting suggestion. One of the major difficulties for terrorist groups is getting onto planes. All those pesky security checks cause many logistical problems for them. Maybe they have decided to 'solve' this problem by getting themselves a nice plane all of their own.

The most worrying question is this scenario would be - What are they planning to do with the plane now they have it?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wow!

this incident already has a Wiki site?

Is there a movie made too?

:doh:

 

[PrairieWind]

One of my thoughts exactly. But it doesn't explain how no one saw anything.

In the US, if a plane stopped responding and changed course, we'd most likely scramble jets and shoot it down if necessary. JMO But in this case we have no explosions recorded and no witnesses over what is supposed to be a busy area. And I question why, if the Malaysian Military had known the plane veered off course, they kept quiet for so long.

I doubt the plane was shot down but, who knows. JMO

There were some people on the ground that reported a low flying airliner. The height was unclear but I took it be about 3,000ft. So that might not be noticed as much by a largely sleeping population. It could be that the reason the military kept quiet so long was because even though it was showing up on radar, they neglected to understand the significance. Or maybe no one was actually monitoring the military radar at that hour. They could have stayed quiet because of embarrassment over their own incompetence at first.

 

[MsFacetious]

Wow!

this incident already has a Wiki site?

Is there a movie made too?

:doh:

It already has a blog too.

This is the internet. :facepalm:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I heard a couple of possible scenarios on CNN. Perhaps the co-pilot locked the pilot out of the cockpit, and turned the plane around, shut off the transponders and took it down...OR hijackers got into the cockpit and did same. OR there was a partial electrical failure and they flew on backup reserve power until it failed.

HOWEVER, in any of the above, wouldn't someone have texted or called loved ones and said goodbye?

My husband said, "there's some serious stuff going on in that cockpit if the transponder was turned off". He went on to say a pilot would never turn the transponder off. Somebody turned it off on purpose.
He reiterated what is being reported on TV that backup system would remain active for one to one and a half hours if the main system failed.

On CNN John Goglia just gave the same opinion as above.

So, since the transponder went off at approx. 1:30 a.m., foul play seems most likely.
Because the backup was turned off as well?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Wow!

this incident already has a Wiki site?

Is there a movie made too?

:doh:

Why wouldn't it? Every big plane crash (well, I guess we don't know if it crashed yet) has a wiki page. It's pretty notable and significant, no matter what happened to it.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

It seems like we cannot believe anything right now because it keeps changing from minute to minute. I wish they would designate ONE agency to deal with the media, and strictly the media. So maybe we can get accurate information. But as it stands now it changes every news conference!

We're expecting media reports on our terms - the way that information would be dispersed in the U.S. We have no control over another country's investigation, the release of information in a timely manner, the transparency of information reported to various media outlets, etc. As frustrated as we might be, think about how angry the families of the crew/passengers must be. They don't seem to know what's going on, either. :moo:

 

[PrairieWind]

It already has a blog too.

This is the internet. :facepalm:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/

That guy's theory on what happened is as good as any. Seems to fit the scenario. Pilots attempted to turn around when they got confused, auto pilot reengaged at a lower altitude, flew until it ran out of gas, plunged into the water. No midair explosion, no wide debris field. But they should be detecting the blow box pinger shouldnt they?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Interesting reading, seems like they are making some effort to update people. In fact they've given out more info that I would have expected, especially in the first day!

The first announcement (page 13) mentioned 2:40am as time last heard of by ATC

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

 

[mrsu]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-the-Malacca-Straits/articleshow/31855418.cms

Indian Navy joins search for missing Malaysian plane in the Malacca Straits

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Yikes a lovely young lady is slamming the co-pilot on CNN. Said he took her and friend on a plane/joy ride while smoking the whole time and other things. This happened in 2011 and the ladies were in the cockpit. Described him as kind of "sleazy". That's not good!

 

[shadowdancer]

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[PrairieWind]

Yikes a lovely young lady is slamming the co-pilot on CNN. Said he took her and friend on a plane/joy ride while smoking the whole time and other things. This happened in 2011 and the ladies were in the cockpit. Described him as kind of "sleazy". That's not good!

I agree it is kind of inappropriate to make that public. I could however understand that woman contacting authorities to tell them that. If it happened, it could indicate this flight crew took liberties with the regulations. If terrorists were scouting for planes to hijack, a flight with a crew that is known for being slack would be a good choice.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

We're expecting media reports on our terms - the way that information would be dispersed in the U.S. We have no control over another country's investigation, the release of information in a timely manner, the transparency of information reported to various media outlets, etc. As frustrated as we might be, think about how angry the families of the crew/passengers must be. They don't seem to know what's going on, either. :moo:

It's concerning, if they knew the plane had made a U-turn and headed back across Malaysia on day one, that they spent 90 hours (reported as) searching for wreckage in the wrong area.
Makes no sense. Wonder why they ignored the first indications from the primary radar (less sophisticated radar).*

*correction, military radar is more sophisticated than civilian (ATC). I posted from what they reported on CNN (so either I misunderstood or they're not explaining the military input).
CNN used 'primary radar' but my other source said it was 'military radar' so just noting.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...tary-says-missing-jet-changed-course-1.508355

Local newspaper Berita Harian quoted Malaysian air force chief Gen. Rodzali Daud as saying radar at a military base had detected the airliner near Pulau Perak, at the northern approach to the strait.


bbm

 

[Zuckerschnecke]

I hope people stop slamming the pilots until we know more. ANY flight that has a problem, dirt can be dug up on the pilots, I am certain of it. We need to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point because having girls in the cockpit and sabotaging a plane are two way different things.

What bothers me is that early on, the travel agency that sold these two the tickets said that SEVEN tickets were purchased at the same time, including their two. So were the other five the people that didn't board???? That is for me the biggest question right now. And why wouldn't they release those five's names and clear them? The only malicious reason I can wrap my head around revolves around these five other tickets.

Beyond that, they could have lost a lot of power and tried their best to get back to the original airport.

 

[Softail]

So basically, now we are to assume the plane lost all power and communication, and somehow glided from 35,000 ft. to the west to the Malacca Straight. :waitasec: I suppose that is possible, but the question still remains - WHY? I still suspect some sort of hijack or terrorism. I just don't believe this plane stopped mid air.

BTW - Can we please stop blowing the margins with large pictures? Makes it very difficult to read! :maddening: Resize them if they are too big, please! :tyou:

 

[MsFacetious]

Bumping this again....

UPDATE [3.42pm]: From the press conference by Malaysian Inspector General of Police Khalid Abu Bakar:

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It was also confirmed that there were NO passengers who checked in for the flight and did not board.

https://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html