Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #2

[Melly53]

How far in advance were tickets purchased for the two that used stolen passport? Thanks

Day before flight!

 

[catatonia]

Source: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26503141

 

[CoverMeCagney]

idk but I can't get that article out of my head about the set-up the pilot had at home. All the monitors, screens, wires etc replicating everything exactly as it is in the boeing.

It would be quite handy having all that equipment if you wanted to teach someone else how to fly a plane....

 

[Steely Dan]

Ive thought about this myself and the only thing that turns me off is this: how many abandoned runways can accommodate a 777 AND be isolated enough that the terrorists would not be interrupted? Coastal areas of Vietnam and China are pretty densely populated.

I just cannot fathom how this plane has vanished into thin air! :truce:

I think I've seen too many James Bond movies. :facepalm:

 

[Plumeria5]

idk but I can't get that article out of my head about the set-up the pilot had at home. All the monitors, screens, wires etc replicating everything exactly as it is in the boeing.

The Captain was fascinated with electronics and had a passion for flying from those that knew him. If you watch the video of he and his wife demonstrating how to save money on your a/c by adjusting the pressure, it shows someone that loved to experiment and learn.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I do find it odd that the pilot had such a sophisticated set up at home, unless he also used it to encourage young peoples interests in becoming future pilots.

Being that he did have such a sophisticated set up at home, then he would have been very well aware of how important radio communications were/are.
In fact, he would probably have known all of the intricate little details about every single thing in that cockpit and plane. He seems as if he would be interested in things the usual pilots would not even be required to know. I want to know the back story on this guy. My nephew in Atlanta is an international pilot. His interest in flying started when he was 8 years old. There is not one thing he doesn't know about the aircrafts he flies.

Given his knowledge and interest, wouldn't he have known there was a problem the very first second there was one? Did communications fail? Was there an electrical problem that precluded him from radioing (is that a word?) that there was a problem? Did a bomb detonate? WHAT??? Could this pilot have been aware of a problem, slowed, reversed the engines, and gone into the ocean at an angle? Is it a fact that the aircraft would have had to break up? No wreckage.

There has to be abandoned airstrips in Viet Nam that the U.S. used to use to fly in supplies and so forth on. Maybe Steely's idea isn't so far off. Could this sophisticated set up have been used to teach others the basics of flying such a plane?

I don't have any answers, but I would like to know if either pilot, or engineer for that matter, had any devastating life events occur recently. Was this pilot going to have to retire soon? Maybe he wanted to go out doing what he loved.

I know this is a crazy post, but something way, way out of the ordinary happened to this plane.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and their friends. I hope the plane and/or wreckage is found. These people deserve and need to know what happened to their loved ones.

MOO

 

[Wendy101]

I am more concerned about the 27 yr old co pilot.. i want to know more about him..

i wonder if something happened to the pilot and the co-pilot took over. He only had 2000 something hours in flying.. Since he worked there..

 

[heartfortruth]

I have spent the entire morning reading every single post since this began as I just learned about it when I woke up today (being at my daughter's volleyball tournament all weekend is apparently akin to having fallen off the face of the planet for a couple days).

I have nothing useful to add but I wanted to thank all of the posters here who have shared first-hand knowledge of things pertinent to this situation. I can't even begin to explain how much it helps. Once again, Websleuths is proven (to me anyway) to be the best source for the most up-to-date and accurate information on current happenings.

:blowkiss:

Agree, agree!!! Thanks for speaking for a lot of us! Me, for sure! :tyou:

 

[LaLaw2000]

Ive thought about this myself and the only thing that turns me off is this: how many abandoned runways can accommodate a 777 AND be isolated enough that the terrorists would not be interrupted? Coastal areas of Vietnam and China are pretty densely populated.

I just cannot fathom how this plane has vanished into thin air! :truce:

The U.S. military transport aircraft would land in Viet Nam. My late husband was drafted the minute he graduated from college, trained in Quartermaster, and sent to Viet Nam. Those transports are huge. I have a picture of one.

The airstrip was away from the fighting and the troops had 2 weeks training once there before going into the war. Those airstrip were not far from the coast. They were isolated back then.

We are not in a flight path where I live, but I still do not think anything of hearing a jet overhead. I just assume it is all aboveboard.

Just IMO, but I think it could be done - just not very likely.

 

[LaLaw2000]

My posts are lame, but I just cannot get this out of my mind. So many people and 4 little children have just vanished. How can this be?

Because I have nothing of substance to add, I think I will just shut up, read, worry, and pray!

:seeya:

 

[popsicle]

My posts are lame, but I just cannot get this out of my mind. So many people and 4 little children have just vanished. How can this be?

Because I have nothing of substance to add, I think I will just shut up, read, worry, and pray!

:seeya:

I think you have added much, thank you!

 

[redheadedgal]

Azharuddin said the search includes northern parts of the Malacca Strait, on the opposite side of the Malay Peninsula and far west of the plane's last known location. Azharuddin would not explain why crews were searching there, saying, "There are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/how-can-jet-disappear-ocean-its-not-hard

 

[HMSHood]

Source: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26503141

Interesting they are searching Malacca Strait. Radar never detected the airplane flying over that area, unless people in that area came forward saw something.

 

[Plumeria5]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/how-can-jet-disappear-ocean-its-not-hard

Wow! Way off course!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...1s0x3035c1450ba4e5c9:0xf486b1a0e32acab1?hl=en

 

[PrairieWind]

Hmmmm, that is very interesting. Clearly they know more than they are releasing at this point.

 

[HMSHood]

Ok, time for a weird theory. IIRC, there was a report that somebody saw the plane flying very low. I wonder if it was hijacked and flown under the radar to an abandoned airfield on a coast. There they are loading the plane up with explosives and are planning to fly it into something. Maybe the Chinese capital?

They would have killed all the passengers and flight crew and piled the bodies up in an abandoned hanger.

That is certainly possible. I know airplanes that have been bombed over the ocean, their wreckage are found immediately like Air India Flight 182 and Korean Air Flight 858. The Korean Air pilots did not send a distress signal despite the fact they were bombed. They contacted air traffic control and said they would arrive in Bangkok as if nothing happened. Of course the airplane crashed near the border of Thailand and Burma. Strangely, the black box was never recovered and few debris had been found.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_858"]Korean Air Flight 858 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[Melly53]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/how-can-jet-disappear-ocean-its-not-hard

Azharuddin said the search includes northern parts of the Malacca Strait, on the opposite side of the Malay Peninsula and far west of the plane's last known location. Azharuddin would not explain why crews were searching there, saying, "There are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't."

I knew it! They know more than they are telling the public or families!!

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[dotr]

Wonder if they are going to use Tomnod to crowd source google images for plane location?

 

[bexlex]

My posts are lame, but I just cannot get this out of my mind. So many people and 4 little children have just vanished. How can this be?

Because I have nothing of substance to add, I think I will just shut up, read, worry, and pray!

:seeya:

Alien abduction, EMP, ray guns, black holes.....all better excuses than "We have no idea where the plane went". Goodness.....

 

[TopTop]

I've been trying to research something and have not been able to find the answer. When the Air France flight from Brazil to Paris went missing it took days before they found the wreckage. In reading up on that crash there were systems that sent malfunction warnings to Air France maintenance. Did we know that immediately or just after the wreckage was found.

What I'm getting at is, did the AF plane just disappear for a few days like this one or were there indications of what had happened?

Thanks!