Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #7

[Snoods]

I just keep thinking the simplest answer is usually the easiest... and the theories right now in the media are so all over the board, that it will be interesting to see how they respond when the truth is known.

I would usually agree wholeheartedly, but in your opinion what is the easiest answer?

 

[Snoods]

One word-sensationalism

Sorry my brother sent me a text about Geraldo broadcasting on a ship
He was joking....and he is not even on.
Sorry guys. Judge Jeanine is on though.

That's funny, in that case your brother is hilarious!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Somebody (I wish I could remember who) brought up the Ibrahim sodomy trials and it's significance on the flight a while ago and posted this wiki link about it, and now it seems there may be a connection between the pilot and the trials?

Anwar Ibrahim sodomy trials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Geesh! Talk about a real life soap opera. Describing Anwar's acquittal within the wiki article, the author wrote (referring to the Judge), "His oral verdict concluded:" lol!

A mattress with Anwar's DNA was brought in as evidence but Anwar denied having anything to do with the mattress. Too much!

This situation has resulted in political division since 1998.
No one could make this stuff up.

 

[margarita25]

I just found something on tomnod, about darn time, lol.

I'm sure this has been posted? Boat?

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/545213

Sorry if this is a repeat!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Back to the Vietnam Air Traffic Control (non)contact for a moment.

Vietnam ATC expecting a regularly scheduled flight to come into their airspace. Flight does not show up on their radar. They attempt to reach the flight . No answer from flight. They try again, still no answer. ATC calls another plane and asks that plane to call the missing plane. Plane #2 does this, using "an emergency channel". The pilot of Plane #2 claims he heard them, there was static and the voice sounded like they were mumbling, but he thought it was the co-pilot. The transmission was then disconnected in mid-conversation. That pilot called in to Vietnam ATC and told them what happened. Vietnam ATC asked them to try again.

End of story as reported in the article I read.

So, what happened when Plane #2 tried again? If unable to further contact missing flight (which seems evident) did Plane #2 once again report back to Vietnam ATC? When missing plane never showed up, didn't Vietnam ATC wonder where it was? Would they not contact the originating airport via landline to find out if flight was delayed?

There are a ton of unanswered questions about this whole thing.

 

[margarita25]

What about this? Dark coloring? Oil? Or is that something (natural) on the ocean floor?

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/545213

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/544547

Sorry if these are repeats! Hard to keep up here!!!

eta: nevermind, probably nothing bc I see they are everywhere now.

:blushing:

 

[redheadedgal]

Ilove, not sure, was going by the persons description of the flight.
MH370 to Bejing. It was Dec. 2010.
I see the seats are 2-4-2 on this one, so maybe it's not a 777.
Either way would the seats not be the same on all planes for the airline?
Do they do different color schemes for different sizes of airplanes?

he wrote the blog in 2010... but when did he travel to beijing?

that cabin looks old.

Well the one I flew on had all blue seats.
And there were TV's in the seats too.

Malaysia Airlines could have switched to 777's after that photo...I don't know.

I just looked at seating charts for various Boeing 777's and the seating plans can either be 3-3-3 or 2-5-2. But there were none for a 2-4-2 seating plane.

yes -- here supposedly is a current economy cabin



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/1463910/L/


imo, there's no way those are seat cushions... way too close together considering currents, wind, wakes etc all these days later.

 

[ilovepierre]

The first one looks like a boat and I could't get the second one to work for me.

 

[ilovepierre]

he wrote the blog in 2010... but when did he travel to beijing?

that cabin looks old.




yes -- here supposedly is a current economy cabin



http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malaysia-Airlines/Boeing-777-2H6-ER/1463910/L/


imo, there's no way those are seat cushions... way too close together considering currents, wind, wakes etc all these days later.

Yes. That photo looks like the seating arrangement that I am familiar with.

And I agree that those aren't seat cushions that were in that tomnod photo. They wouldn't be that close together after a week. Plus with wind, currents, creatures of the deep...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I just don't think they were involved. Not at this point anyways.
My opinion could change if/when more details ever come out about them.
I was never suspicious about them having stolen passports. It's common over there to fly with them.

I find it very unsettling people from countries that support terrorists are so easily using stolen passports to visit their mommas. And we should be upset about it.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I read the "Sodomy Story"! Yeesh!

Wiki article says the semen stained mattress was dragged in and out of courtrooms at least 20 times. And out of 13 semen stains 10 of them were Anwar's DNA. (Has no one ever heard of a mattress pad in Malaysia?)

In addition, the Defense attorney said the semen stains could have been "planted evidence" obtained when Anwar was unconscious when in police custody! Now I wonder just exactly what process they would have used to obtain that "evidence" and whose job it was to obtain it?

 

[panthera]

SBM.
I'm in the hijack camp.
I have been pretty much from the start.

So have I only the perpetrators have changed. Initially I believed the two with the stolen passports were involved until learning how common stolen passports are in that part of the world. I am not 100% convinced, however, it was either the pilot or co-pilot as I do not see what their motivation or goal may have been.

MOO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I just found something on tomnod, about darn time, lol.

I'm sure this has been posted? Boat?

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/545213

Sorry if this is a repeat!

I would say boat.

 

[Ragamuffin]

I'm so sorry if this has been answered, I'm way behind!

Why is the FBI involved at all? It's a Malaysian airline, leaving from Malaysia, going to China. I can see the myriad TLA US agencies we know and don't know about being involved, but why the FBI? What is their remit here?

Just because Boeing is a US manufacturer? Does that mean MI5 is involved because Rolls Royce is British?

I can see CIA/MI6, but domestic LE has me puzzled. (WRT a couple of pages back linking to a DM article quoting the FBI.)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm so sorry if this has been answered, I'm way behind!

Why is the FBI involved at all? It's a Malaysian airline, leaving from Malaysia, going to China. I can see the myriad TLA US agencies we know and don't know about being involved, but why the FBI? What is their remit here?

Just because Boeing is a US manufacturer? Does that mean MI5 is involved because Rolls Royce is British?

I can see CIA/MI6, but domestic LE has me puzzled. (WRT a couple of pages back linking to a DM article quoting the FBI.)

We have 3 Americans on the plane. This has been a parallel investigation going into a criminal one now. The FBI are acting on behalf of our citizens and do this all over the world when the need arises.


What is the FBI’s role in combating terrorism?

The FBI is the nation’s lead federal law enforcement agency for investigating and preventing acts of domestic and international terrorism. It is the lead federal agency for investigating attacks involving weapons of mass destruction—those involving chemical, radiological, or biological agents or nuclear weapons. The FBI is also responsible for specific terrorism-related offenses, such as violence at airports, money laundering, attacks on U.S. officials, and others. The FBI also works closely with the Director of National Intelligence and other U.S. intelligence agencies to gather and analyze intelligence on terrorism and other security threats. It is the number one priority of the FBI to protect the U.S. and U.S. persons and interests around the world from terrorist attack.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs

 

[Mama_Owl]

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/95034

Doesn't look like whales, boats, or waves to me..

 

[Ragamuffin]

Thank you SeriouslySearching I'm a UK citizen living in the US for 8 years, so I am still sometimes confused as to legal/LE procedures.

Thanks again!

 

[CARIIS]

Terrific writing.....adds lots of nuance....fills in holes .... enjoy....

The radar blip that was Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 did a wide U-turn over the Gulf of Thailand and then began moving inexorably past at least three military radar arrays as it traversed northern Malaysia, even flying high over one of the country’s biggest cities before heading out over the Strait of Malacca.

Yet inside a Malaysian Air Force control room ...




http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/w...ting-the-task-of-finding-flight-370.html?_r=0

 

[ilovepierre]

So have I only the perpetrators have changed. Initially I believed the two with the stolen passports were involved until learning how common stolen passports are in that part of the world. I am not 100% convinced, however, it was either the pilot or co-pilot as I do not see what their motivation or goal may have been.

MOO

Same. I don't believe either pilot was involved, either.
But it was someone with pilot knowledge/training that hijacked this plane.

 

[newone]

I'm so sorry if this has been answered, I'm way behind!

Why is the FBI involved at all? It's a Malaysian airline, leaving from Malaysia, going to China. I can see the myriad TLA US agencies we know and don't know about being involved, but why the FBI? What is their remit here?

Just because Boeing is a US manufacturer? Does that mean MI5 is involved because Rolls Royce is British?

I can see CIA/MI6, but domestic LE has me puzzled. (WRT a couple of pages back linking to a DM article quoting the FBI.)

20 HI Tech workers for an American Corporation that was formerly Motorola........defense supplier/contractor were on that plane

http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-04-02/when-a-buyout-goes-bad

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-malaysia-airlines-freescale-idUSBREA280T020140309




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