Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #7

[ilovepierre]

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/95034

Doesn't look like whales, boats, or waves to me..

When I click that link, I just get taken to a screen full of blue tiles.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

When I click that link, I just get taken to a screen full of blue tiles.

Click on the middle tile.

 

[CARIIS]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...-trial-jailed-opposition-leader-sodomite.html

Why is it even possible to "switch" the black box off? I would have thought one needs some very specific equipment for doing so.

In case of electrical issue (fire)s

sadly tho, the black boxes if ever found will probably be useless................they record the last 2 hours and what the world needs is the first two hours ......if it flew 7 hours by hour 6-7 I would assume all the taking over , well , is over.......................

 

[Tssiemer]

What about this? Dark coloring? Oil? Or is that something (natural) on the ocean floor?

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/545213

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/544547

Sorry if these are repeats! Hard to keep up here!!!

eta: nevermind, probably nothing bc I see they are everywhere now.

:blushing:

I saw some of this but thought it was shadow of the clouds.


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[Rallibella]

I would usually agree wholeheartedly, but in your opinion what is the easiest answer?

Something drastically went wrong with the plane, one of the pilots had to take over and tried to head back, and then maybe he didn't make it either and the plane was flying unattended for a bit. I know everyone is leaning towards that not being what happened anymore, but I just can't see why someone would go thru all this effort and fly it for so long after dropping off of radar to then have the plane crash in the ocean.

 

[Nore]

I read the "Sodomy Story"! Yeesh!

Wiki article says the semen stained mattress was dragged in and out of courtrooms at least 20 times. And out of 13 semen stains 10 of them were Anwar's DNA. (Has no one ever heard of a mattress pad in Malaysia?)

In addition, the Defense attorney said the semen stains could have been "planted evidence" obtained when Anwar was unconscious when in police custody! Now I wonder just exactly what process they would have used to obtain that "evidence" and whose job it was to obtain it?

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Always, IMO we needed this post! I LMAO!! sort of broke the tension. Imagine the poor guys dragging it in and out..:floorlaugh: :loveyou:

 

[Mahouston69]

What about this? Dark coloring? Oil? Or is that something (natural) on the ocean floor?

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/545213

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/544547

Sorry if these are repeats! Hard to keep up here!!!

eta: nevermind, probably nothing bc I see they are everywhere now.

:blushing:

Shadow from cloud above it (same shape)

 

[CARIIS]

Does anyone think the two men who bought stolen passports from a Mr Ali in Thailand and were on this plane, had anything to do with its disappearance? They had one way tickets.

I saw this on a repeat of a television announcement today.

Yeh, since the last 24 hours especially the poster who found out that the baggage handler at the airport specializes in handling dangerous cargo, and is a subsidary of MAL the whole world changed for me....

the earlier post

and
Baggage is handled by two companies, Malaysia Airlines and Kuala Lumpur Airport Services (KLAS). The Malaysia Airlines System handles most airlines landing at KLIA whereas KLAS also handles the remaining airlines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...International_Airport#Baggage_handling_system


ahhhh KUALA LUMPUR – KL International Airport (KLIA) maintained its superb streak in service excellence when it was voted the World's Best Immigration Service .....

something tells this might change!!

http://www.klia.com.my/

 

[CARIIS]

Great! As soon as I tune into CNN for the first time, everyone turns it off. :bang:

I have to ask.............................who was it?

 

[panthera]

Same. I don't believe either pilot was involved, either.
But it was someone with pilot knowledge/training that hijacked this plane.

Naturally the focus at this point is going to be on the pilot and co-pilot as they are the ones responsible for the aircraft while they are in command. There are events which took place during the flight which cannot be explained as being the result of anyone else, such as the transponder being shut off, the ACARS system being disabled, the flight trajectory being changed. However the ascent to 45,000 ft. with a rapid descent and erratic flight patterns seem to indicate a possible fight for control of the aircraft, as in someone in the cockpit attempting to overtake the controls. That part would appear to be done by someone other than the flight crew, however, it is after the other systems were turned off which is part of the mystery. In addition, other than the pilot's political interests, there does not appear to be a reason for him to have either flown the plane way off course in order to crash it in the Indian Ocean hours later, or take it to some unknown country.

:waitasec:

MOO

 

[Snoods]

Something drastically went wrong with the plane, one of the pilots had to take over and tried to head back, and then maybe he didn't make it either and the plane was flying unattended for a bit. I know everyone is leaning towards that not being what happened anymore, but I just can't see why someone would go thru all this effort and fly it for so long after dropping off of radar to then have the plane crash in the ocean.

But if something drastically went wrong with the plane, what would explain the turning off of the three transponders, two of which were turned off before the pilot's calm "Alright, goodnight" last transmission?

If something went drastically wrong with the plane, how would it turn completely around and continue to fly it's stealth mode along the corridors of Kazakhstan-Turkmenistan border, or the other, more southern one stretching from Indonesia to the remote Indian Ocean like it did? For 7 1/2 more hours? That's not a plane flying unattended.

I do agree with you that someone wouldn't go through all this effort to fly it into the ocean because that's exactly what I thought at first, but maybe that's not what they did?

ETA: I'm so sorry, I know I'm coming across all know-it-all-y but this case is driving me nuts! I'm becoming obsessed with it!

 

[Soulmagent]

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/95034

Doesn't look like whales, boats, or waves to me..

It is the orange things I saw in someone's post yesterday.

These are not pixels to are they?

I kinda thought maybe they were but today in you post they are more clear. Could they be crab pots? Or fishing nets?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Both of the pilots' homes were searched and items have been removed. Today authorities were seen carrying shopping bags containing items out of the co-pilot's home.
Someone said guards had been assigned earlier to make sure nothing was being carried out prior to determining if there was a need to investigate the pilots.

I wonder if the intensified focus on the pilots, indicates authorities have outruled the two men with the fake passports or if they're still investigating several angles simultaneously. My guess is the latter.

:seeya: Do you have a link?

Sorry, I should have said per CNN. Wait, I switched over to Fox for awhile too. I heard this info being reported on TV today. Maybe it was Judge Jeanine Pirro on Fox. Pictures were shown of both houses but not the footage of the bags being brought out of the co-pilot's house (that I saw anyway).

Actually, I was surprised nobody had posted the information by the time I caught up to my own post.

I haven't heard anybody talking much about the two men with the fake passports lately. Their pictures were shown today (on Fox I believe) but no new info was revealed about them either way (involved or not).

CNN brought up the subject of the two pilots today wondering why it took authorities so long to investigate if they are involved or not.

 

[panthera]

Something drastically went wrong with the plane, one of the pilots had to take over and tried to head back, and then maybe he didn't make it either and the plane was flying unattended for a bit. I know everyone is leaning towards that not being what happened anymore, but I just can't see why someone would go thru all this effort and fly it for so long after dropping off of radar to then have the plane crash in the ocean.

The thought of depressurization in the cockpit had occurred to me also with the plane remaining airborne until it ran out of fuel and crashed. Perhaps that did happen, not through a malfunction, but after someone attempted to overtake the controls and the pilot and co-pilot were unable to fly it. I'm not ruling out this possibility at this point.

MOO

 

[CARIIS]

Is the continued "doubt" that it landed.............The way I see it there are at least 5 systems basically involved with communicating

three of the 5 would cease operating in the event of a crash and they have not

2 of the 5 would "activate" in the event of a crash and they have not

so.............................

 

[revampz]

okok.....back onto it YET again...

Have quickly skimmed through so don't know if I have missed anything big.....

However I have noticed you all "talking" about the leader of the opposition and his acquittal overturned the day before the plane vanished....

And I just read that the pilot attended the court house hours before!!!!

yep I am 99% there that the fanatic pilot has taken this plane to make the prime minister look bad or as a protest or as a demand as someone has said or maybe even suicide...

a few of us come to this conclusion last night.....this is to do with Malaysias politics. And good sleuthing John51, you were the first one to come up with theory.....

am sure most of you have read this type of thing: but I am just catching up again and am finding this line of enquiry interesting to say the least.



'Political fanatic' pilot had attended Anwar's trial, expressed disgust at the 'injustice' of the verdict




The Mail on Sunday said it had learned that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim.

And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur it is understood 53-year-old Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.



Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges.



Police sources have confirmed that Shah was a vocal political activist – and fear that the court decision left him profoundly upset.

It was against this background that, seven hours later, he took control of a Boeing 777-200 bound for Beijing and carrying 238 passengers and crew


Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/i...me-anwar?&Itemid=2#.UyUcDHF-_IU#ixzz2w5qkD4Cw
Follow us: @MsiaChronicle on Twitter

 

[mck16]

Back to the Vietnam Air Traffic Control (non)contact for a moment.

Vietnam ATC expecting a regularly scheduled flight to come into their airspace. Flight does not show up on their radar. They attempt to reach the flight . No answer from flight. They try again, still no answer. ATC calls another plane and asks that plane to call the missing plane. Plane #2 does this, using "an emergency channel". The pilot of Plane #2 claims he heard them, there was static and the voice sounded like they were mumbling, but he thought it was the co-pilot. The transmission was then disconnected in mid-conversation. That pilot called in to Vietnam ATC and told them what happened. Vietnam ATC asked them to try again.

End of story as reported in the article I read.

So, what happened when Plane #2 tried again? If unable to further contact missing flight (which seems evident) did Plane #2 once again report back to Vietnam ATC? When missing plane never showed up, didn't Vietnam ATC wonder where it was? Would they not contact the originating airport via landline to find out if flight was delayed?

There are a ton of unanswered questions about this whole thing.

I think this is when it began. I don't buy that no one knew there was a rogue plane out there. jmo

 

[newone]

Something drastically went wrong with the plane, one of the pilots had to take over and tried to head back, and then maybe he didn't make it either and the plane was flying unattended for a bit. I know everyone is leaning towards that not being what happened anymore, but I just can't see why someone would go thru all this effort and fly it for so long after dropping off of radar to then have the plane crash in the ocean.

or it was ''intercepted'' and ''escorted'' elsewhere ((just SWAG))

 

[revampz]

Sorry, I should have said per CNN. Wait, I switched over to Fox for awhile too. I heard this info being reported on TV today. Maybe it was Judge Jeanine Pirro on Fox. Pictures were shown of both houses but not the footage of the bags being brought out of the co-pilot's house (that I saw anyway).

Actually, I was surprised nobody had posted the information by the time I caught up to my own post.

I haven't heard anybody talking much about the two men with the fake passports lately. Their pictures were shown today (on Fox I believe) but no new info was revealed about them either way (involved or not).

CNN brought up the subject of the two pilots today wondering why it took authorities so long to investigate if they are involved or not.

yes I just read this....will find the link


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dual-group-significant-flying-experience.html

 

[margarita25]

It's so horrifying to imagine what these passengers could have possibly experienced. Even mild turbulence in flight is highly distressing to me.

<O/T, I hate flying, but here's the weird thing, I love to "jump out of perfectly good airplanes", lol. When I'm in the plane, I'm freaked out about being in it and can't wait to jump out of there!!!>