Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #8

[CARIIS]

Reading that felt like a word problem!!!

Put it in another perspective. Take plane crashes for example. And most plane crashes are missing until the wreckage is found. Lets assume that pilots are most likely to own a flight simulator. If we took a random sample from the entire population, there would probably be a correlation between owning a flight simulator and crashing a plane. Because pilots are the most likely to both crash a plane and own a simulator. But if you took the sample from pilots only, the correlation would probably disappear. If more experienced pilots own more sophisticated simulators, you might even get a negative correlation between how advanced the set-up is and likelihood of crashing. That this pilot had an advanced simulator and his plane is missing is a statistical outlier IMO.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I disagree. Strongly. Let's put this into perspective... He's a qualified INSTRUCTOR who is also certified as an EXAMINER by the Malaysian Civil Aviation Safety Authority



And again... (we really need a FAQ Thread!)



This is my home simulator... does it make me a potential terrorist???

So where in your house do you keep that?


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[highflyer]

I disagree. Strongly. Let's put this into perspective... He's a qualified INSTRUCTOR who is also certified as an EXAMINER by the Malaysian Civil Aviation Safety Authority

And again... (we really need a FAQ Thread!)

This is my home simulator... does it make me a potential terrorist???

If you had any connection to an incident it would make sense to check you out with the equipment you have access to just like it would be for anyone else. Just common sense.

 

[CARIIS]

Visually it is hard for reg folks for us to tell actually how sophisticated his was when i first saw it (screen shot) I thought heck its three tvs BUT

go you tube his name (posted last night ) and listen to him talk He is technical.....................knows his stuff

LOL, that is hilarious! I have the flu and now I'm choking from laughing so hard:floorlaugh:

I wrote that because for a long time it seemed like I was the only one who thought the pilot's "super mega sophisticated and super mega suspicious" simulator wasn't at all sophisticated and not at all suspicious. I think branding anyone a terrorist because they own a simulator is appalling. If you had read the thread you would have noticed that I have almost been screaming that it wasn't an unusual set up and that we know people who have similar and better. It seems pilots like flying and like to practice! Whacky bunch that they are!

 

[CARIIS]

Driveway (taxi way!) the pic is awesome

So where in your house do you keep that?


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[SeriouslySearching]

the accounts I read stated that they stayed overnight at his ap't and he drove them to the airport the next day

so maybe he was in contact with them for the first few days and then they stayed at his place the last night before the flight?

I wish reporters would publish specific days, times, dates ...

I posted the article earlier, but the friend said initially his pal initially talked about staying only 2-3 days. He said it ended up being a week. But then I found this article and...wow...if this doesn't raise a few suspicions...there are so many things wrong with the friend's story.

The Last Day of Malaysia Airline Passengers With Stolen Passports

http://abcnews.go.com/US/day-malaysia-airline-passengers-stolen-passports/story?id=22852454

 

[Leilei]

CNN reports Delta flight out of Orlando lost part of a wing but was able to land safely. Not so sure I want to fly to Boston this summer.

Honey, I'm flying to Cali in a month or so, and to Italy next spring. Time to ask my doc for some great meds for the flights. :scared:

 

[aa9511]

He would definitely have the know-how to shut down communications and he'd probably know the routes to fly to avoid detection.

As I said in a post yesterday, IF this was a hijacking by a terrorist group, then it was planned in advance. All signs currently point to this being planned in advance.

IF this was done by some terrorist group, the planning could have spanned YEARS.

Why would they have a plan for a hijacker to turn the trasnponder off, go under radar, fly, and possibly land the plane, if that hijacker did not know how to do the afore-mentioned?

That would make no sense.

They are not going to put hijackers on the plane who don't have the skills to carry out the mission.

JMO.

In other words, just because it seems like someone with pilot capabilites flew this plane, DOES NOT mean that it was the two original pilots of the plane.

 

[Marg from Oz]

According to people in this thread YES! That is way to elaborate and expensive to own. You set it up your self? I'm calling the FEDS NOW! Why on earth would a pilot enjoy a flight simulator? Why would a pilot want to practice flying? The only conceivable reason is TERRORISM.

I know flying lessons are very expensiv in Australia. Just like learning to drive a car. Have a few private lessons and then go practise until you think you are good enough then have another lesson to see if you are proficient yet.

Same with learning to fly a plane. Pay big money for a lesson, then go practise on a simulator until you have perfected that lesson. Then go onto the next. Cheaper in a simulator than paying a flying school to just practise. JMOO

 

[Derryn Hunch]

According to people in this thread YES! That is way to elaborate and expensive to own. You set it up your self? I'm calling the FEDS NOW! Why on earth would a pilot enjoy a flight simulator? Why would a pilot want to practice flying? The only conceivable reason is TERRORISM.

HAHAHA!

Thanks for the kind words from all the other big kids out there who like my simulator

Yes - set up myself with the help of a few other people who know way more about electronics than me

It's built from the cockpit of a jet that crashed in 1995 - and everything was stripped out, replaced with new instrumentation etc and all it it reconfigured to power up and run to USB allocated "switches" on Flight Simulator X, using the aircraft type as the flight model.

Here's some pics of it stripped out with instruments ready to go in etc...

 

[JudyBolton]

Reading that felt like a word problem!!!

A Common Core word problem - LOL!!:floorlaugh:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Driveway (taxi way!) the pic is awesome

It is.

I'm also wondering what type of simulations do pilots run for fun? Doesn't it get boring? Is it used like a xbox war game?
I suppose I just don't understand the obsession ... I need more details someone sell me on it!



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[MLO]

Visually it is hard for reg folks for us to tell actually how sophisticated his was when i first saw it (screen shot) I thought heck its three tvs BUT

go you tube his name (posted last night ) and listen to him talk He is technical.....................knows his stuff

Which is EXACTLY what I would want from someone flying a giant metal box through the sky. I would be petrified to find a pilot who wasn't smart, wasn't "technical" and wasn't interested is electronics.

 

[CARIIS]

fri missing 777 day before yesterday crashed nose wheel (the evacuation on a cell cam was unreal) now this

check out the picture

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/news/photo/delta-plane-loses-wing-panel-during-flight-n54306

CNN reports Delta flight out of Orlando lost part of a wing but was able to land safely. Not so sure I want to fly to Boston this summer.

 

[Hatfield]

Honey, I'm flying to Cali in a month or so, and to Italy next spring. Time to ask my doc for some great meds for the flights. :scared:

The one thing I hate about flying is the old adage....."When its your time to go, its your time to go".

Well with flying, it could be the guy next to you's time to go, and you have to go along with him.

Or worse yet, Mr Ali decides its everyone's time to go.

 

[aa9511]

Easy. "I have a gun, everyone put your hands in the air and keep them there while we collect your cell phones."

Yes, you're probably right. But it is a huge flight with a great length.

IMO, you would need more than 2 people.

What I was saying is that how could 2 hijackers keep an eye on all of those passengers at the same time, esp. when they were also possibly collecting cell phones from them? I mean, literally with their eyes.

 

[CARIIS]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which is EXACTLY what I would want from someone flying a giant metal box through the sky. I would be petrified to find a pilot who wasn't smart, wasn't "technical" and wasn't interested is electronics.

 

[Leilei]

HAHAHA!

Thanks for the kind words from all the other big kids out there who like my simulator

Yes - set up myself with the help of a few other people who know way more about electronics than me

It's built from the cockpit of a jet that crashed in 1995 - and everything was stripped out, replaced with new instrumentation etc and all it it reconfigured to power up and run to USB allocated "switches" on Flight Simulator X, using the aircraft type as the flight model.

Here's some pics of it stripped out with instruments ready to go in etc...

Seriously amazing. From that "shell" to what you have now. Bravo! :bowdown:

 

[jamiect]

Put it in another perspective. Take plane crashes for example. And most plane crashes are missing until the wreckage is found. Lets assume that pilots are most likely to own a flight simulator. If we took a random sample from the entire population, there would probably be a correlation between owning a flight simulator and crashing a plane. Because pilots are the most likely to both crash a plane and own a simulator. But if you took the sample from pilots only, the correlation would probably disappear. If more experienced pilots own more sophisticated simulators, you might even get a negative correlation between how advanced the set-up is and likelihood of crashing. That this pilot had an advanced simulator and his plane is missing is a statistical outlier IMO.

Huh,.... I am totally lost and do not get the correlation. Because the pilot had a hobby, this is your conclusion?:waitasec:

 

[CARIIS]

it became more interesting to me as time passed He has been a pilot for what 3 decades on 777 which is a long range machine in cruise they pretty well have little to do I thought he certianly cant be playing with regular flight maybe something a bit interesting and different?

It is.

I'm also wondering what type of simulations do pilots run for fun? Doesn't it get boring? Is it used like a xbox war game?
I suppose I just don't understand the obsession ... I need more details someone sell me on it!



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