Man seen carrying diaper clad baby

[KR2tonenow]

I find it conveniently ODD, the first witness statement ID's a homeless handyman (LE checked out and released) and now its a Black man carrying a baby. Why now are we hearing about witness of man/baby - can they really stand up in court and say ON this day and this time we saw this man/baby?....Who's really up at 4am anyway? Dad was home by 4am and didn't see anything at all? I don't buy it. I trust the cadaver dogs more then these witnesses. IMO

 

[Jetaime]

It's possible that these 2 cases aren't connected... but I truly hope LE looks into this. The incident took place less than 7 miles from the Irwin home:

Naked teenager bursts into Northland house and gets into bed with a child

"The homeowner told police his wife heard a noise about 2:15 a.m. and he got out of bed to investigate, according to court documents .
The man saw someone going into his 6-year-old daughter's bedroom.
He opened the door to find 17-year-old Jared S. Solinger of Shelbyville, Ky., in his daughter's bed, according to the documents."



Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...-and-gets-into-bed-with-a-child#ixzz1bXFCCiXM

 

[marge_rita]

I find it conveniently ODD, the first witness statement ID's a homeless handyman (LE checked out and released) and now its a Black man carrying a baby. Why now are we hearing about witness of man/baby - can they really stand up in court and say ON this day and this time we saw this man/baby?....Who's really up at 4am anyway? Dad was home by 4am and didn't see anything at all? I don't buy it. I trust the cadaver dogs more then these witnesses. IMO

No doubt! :seeya:

 

[JeannaT]

I am not sure I understand that statement. In this case the most logical reason why Lisa's scent was not picked up with her leaving the house is because she was in someones arms..

Surprisingly, they can still track people who are carried by others. Or, amazingly, people who are driven away in cars.

 

[Cracka*Jaxx]

Surprisingly, they can still track people who are carried by others. Or, amazingly, people who are driven away in cars.

I never heard of this. From what I understand, dogs can track only scents they pick up from a surface. If Lisa was carried out of the house they couldn't track her any further than from where she was lifted. They can only track to where a person last stepped before getting into a car and driving away.

 

[aks9847]

That's what I thought all along but each time (Four now) that I listen to it...I hear "they" then she turns to her right and smiles, turns back to reporter and continues...I don't know it really sounds like they to me.

She says, "He wanted me to call the cops....".

You're just not used to our midwestern "twang", so-to-speak. :wink:

 

[MamaK]

It's possible that these 2 cases aren't connected... but I truly hope LE looks into this. The incident took place less than 7 miles from the Irwin home:

Naked teenager bursts into Northland house and gets into bed with a child

"The homeowner told police his wife heard a noise about 2:15 a.m. and he got out of bed to investigate, according to court documents .
The man saw someone going into his 6-year-old daughter's bedroom.
He opened the door to find 17-year-old Jared S. Solinger of Shelbyville, Ky., in his daughter's bed, according to the documents."



Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...-and-gets-into-bed-with-a-child#ixzz1bXFCCiXM

What the heck is going on in the Northland??? People have lost their minds. :crazy:

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

FWIW, if you're using this calendar, technically, you would have to use the Low temp from Oct. 4. Once you get past midnight you are using Oct. 4th's temp's, and according to this calendar, the low for Oct. 4 was 55*.

I specifically remember the weather from that week b/c it was gorgeous! We were able to leave the a/c off and sleep with the windows open--not too cold--just right!

BBM
Yet we find it odd, sinister that a window was open in DB and JI's house. Maybe just maybe they left the window open or the boys did for this very reason.

 

[frankie069]

Surprisingly, they can still track people who are carried by others. Or, amazingly, people who are driven away in cars.

I have never heard of this before unless they got a hit on the inside of the car itself. If a child was walking to a car, they might get a hit up until the spot where the child was walking then the trail goes cold but they cannot follow a trail like that.. I never heard this before in my life.

 

[jjenny]

BBM
Yet we find it odd, sinister that a window was open in DB and JI's house. Maybe just maybe they left the window open or the boys did for this very reason.

I don't know who finds it odd or sinister, but DB herself claimed they rarely leave the window open.

 

[Abby Normal]

I never heard of this. From what I understand, dogs can track only scents they pick up from a surface. If Lisa was carried out of the house they couldn't track her any further than from where she was lifted. They can only track to where a person last stepped before getting into a car and driving away.

I think they track shed skin cells that float off the individual and onto the ground, but I bet someone in the HRD thread would know more than me. think about it, if someone is wearing someone elses shoes, the dog isn't going to get the wrong trail... because it's not about surface-surface contact.

What I don't understand is how in the world they manage it to track cars... I think I remember that from the Lacy Peterson case, but I'm not sure.

 

[In da Middle]

BBM
Yet we find it odd, sinister that a window was open in DB and JI's house. Maybe just maybe they left the window open or the boys did for this very reason.

Not me! I had my windows open that night also. That's why when LE was asking our end of the block if we heard anything that night we all said no and almost all of us had at least some of our windows at least partially open.

 

[KR2tonenow]

I don't know who finds it odd or sinister, but DB herself claimed they rarely leave the window open.

Also, I think LE stated the window appeared not to be "tampered" with. Almost like someone after the fact, pushed the screen out alittle.

 

[cluciano63]

I have never heard of this before unless they got a hit on the inside of the car itself. If a child was walking to a car, they might get a hit up until the spot where the child was walking then the trail goes cold but they cannot follow a trail like that.. I never heard this before in my life.

There was some controversy about a dog or dogs possibly finding the scent in Amber DuBois' case, leading to an area very near where she was eventually found a year later...not really sure how it went down, but it was interesting to read about. Again, not sure if it really happened the way it was later described or not. She was found miles away from where she was taken away by car, so it would be astonishing if it is true.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/05/local/la-me-dogs5-2010apr05

 

[Nancee Drue]

If a person crawled through the window, his body would touch the window frame. Did he/she leave a scent or DNA?

 

[Just K]

She says, "He wanted me to call the cops....".

You're just not used to our midwestern "twang", so-to-speak. :wink:

I'm Mid-Atlantic with a New Jersey born momma.

 

[jjenny]

There was some controversy about a dog or dogs possibly finding the scent in Amber DuBois' case, leading to an area very near where she was eventually found a year later...not really sure how it went down, but it was interesting to read about. Again, not sure if it really happened the way it was later described or not. She was found miles away from where she was taken away by car, so it would be astonishing if it is true.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/05/local/la-me-dogs5-2010apr05

I think that story is hinky. These dogs supposedly tracked her months and months later, which would have been astonishing if they dogs were actually tracking her scent. I also believe when her mother later talked with the perp, the perp told her they didn't even take the route it was believed she did to go to school. So I am not sure what these dogs were tracking, I just don't think they were tracking Amber.

 

[cluciano63]

I think that story is hinky. These dogs supposedly tracked her months and months later, which would have been astonishing if they dogs were actually tracking her scent. I also believe when her mother later talked with the perp, the perp told her they didn't even take the route it was believed she did. So I am not sure what these dogs were tracking, I just don't think they were tracking Amber.

Well, that is kind of what I inferred...

 

[Cracka*Jaxx]

What I don't understand is how in the world they manage it to track cars... I think I remember that from the Lacy Peterson case, but I'm not sure.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I seem to remember a show on TV where there was a bloodhound tracking someone who was taken by car. The bloodhound went for so many miles that LE had to finally put an end to it because the dog was ready to drop dead. If I'm remembering correctly, when they stopped the dog they weren't far from where the body was eventually found- off the road and into a wooded area. Cannot remember what case it was, though.

 

[jjenny]

Now that I'm thinking about it, I seem to remember a show on TV where there was a bloodhound tracking someone who was taken by car. The bloodhound went for so many miles that LE had to finally put an end to it because the dog was ready to drop dead. If I'm remembering correctly, when they stopped the dog they weren't far from where the body was eventually found- off the road and into a wooded area. Cannot remember what case it was, though.

And in this case we are not talking following someone for miles, and the tracking dogs apparently were not able to follow anything.