MD - Freddie Gray dies in police custody #3 *INDICTMENT*

[al66pine]

See, that is why I think MM is holding back evidence for the time being. She can't be that incompetent and be in the position she is. I am sure she is very well advised. She must have more?

Seems like she should be receiving solid legal advice from long-experienced attys in her ofc. about the charges, which are very likely to stand up in ct and which are not.
Some c/be dismissed soon - like if knife is legal.
If there is a trial and conviction on any chgs, some could be reversed on appeal.

That said, she could ignore competent legal advice and instead
heed guidance from strictly-political advisors? Poss, imo.
Some politicians focus on short-term, rather than long, Ditto voters & supporters.
JM2cts.

 

[Wysteria]

Continue discussion here...

Please alert on any pertinent posts that need to be copied over from the other thread.

So sorry OT Harmony, but I have to say I love your new avatar, it's gorgeous xoxo
A green or purple font would look great with it.
Thank you for the reminder also.
Sorry again, back to this sad case...

 

[katydid23]

See, that is why I think MM is holding back evidence for the time being. She can't be that incompetent and be in the position she is. I am sure she is very well advised. She must have more?

Maybe it is not a case of incompetence but a hidden agenda. I think she knows full well that there is a city code labeling that an illegal knife. However it fits her narrative much better to accuse the arresting officers of an illegal arrest, and of false imprisonment. She saw dancing in the streets in response. JMO

 

[dandy]

hopefully this one will stick . . . testing 1 2 3

pages 12 - 13-14 contain the information between jmiller & jbledsoe . . . didn't mm publically state that no leaks will be tolerated? oopsie

http://www.fop3.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Motion-for-Dismissal-or-Recusal.pdf

does anybody know what happens from here - does mm respond or is there a hearing?

i think the attorneys opened up a can of worms/declared war

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Maybe it is not a case of incompetence but a hidden agenda. I think she knows full well that there is a city code labeling that an illegal knife. However it fits her narrative much better to accuse the arresting officers of an illegal arrest, and of false imprisonment. She saw dancing in the streets in response. JMO

Whatever her agenda is it is an ill advised one.

If the knife is illegal to carry in Baltimore it will affect much more than the false imprisonment charges. It will also affect the assault charges as well, imo. No where has she ever said that FG died from police brutality. She said he fell inside the van due to being unrestrained. IMO, she is basing the assault charges on the premise that FG shouldn't have ever been arrested, so the hands on arrest, handcuffing him etc. she considers assault.

She is never going to be able to prove all of these charges and when she doesn't she can thank herself personally for being THE one to put BM back into a state of unrest, chaos, and violence.

IMO

 

[popsicle]

When is the next court date, again?

 

[popsicle]

Whatever her agenda is it is an ill advised one.

If the knife is illegal to carry in Baltimore it will affect much more than the false imprisonment charges. It will also affect the assault charges as well, imo. No where has she ever said that FG died from police brutality. She said he fell inside the van due to being unrestrained. IMO, she is basing the assault charges on the premise that FG shouldn't have ever been arrested, so the hands on arrest, handcuffing him etc. she considers assault.

She is never going to be able to prove all of these charges and when she doesn't she can thank herself personally for being THE one to put BM back into a state of unrest, chaos, and violence.

IMO

My thoughts too. I also think she based the murder charges on that premise.

 

[SStarr33]

When is the next court date, again?

May 27

 

[SStarr33]

If this knife has been called illegal in the past, and Mosby gets away with calling it legal, can people in Baltimore who have been found guilty of carrying it appeal their sentences?

 

[dandy]

May 27

hopefully the media's getting in their request for live cams . . . and wonder how they'll determine seating arrangements at the defense table = 6 x 2 = 12 at a minimum!

edit - 1:30 p.m. baltimore time

 

[popsicle]

hopefully the media's getting in their request for live cams . . . and wonder how they'll determine seating arrangements at the defense table = 6 x 2 = 12 at a minimum!

edit - 1:30 p.m. baltimore time

From trials I have seen, they have multiple defense tables.

 

[dandy]

If this knife has been called illegal in the past, and Mosby gets away with calling it legal, can people in Baltimore who have been found guilty of carrying it appeal their sentences?

good point - one more worm to add to the can

 

[DebinGA]

In January a woman suing the city after her dog was killed by two BPD officers last June received a letter from Mayor R-B and the City Council claiming police officers aren't city employees:

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/city-claims-officers-not-city-employees-in-response-to-suit/30948020

 

[Bravo]

If this knife has been called illegal in the past, and Mosby gets away with calling it legal, can people in Baltimore who have been found guilty of carrying it appeal their sentences?

Yes you do raise an interesting point Hmmm.......

 

[Bravo]

I hope any Court proceedings for this case are televised/streamed. Otherwise IMO some folks are not going to believe the facts as they come to light.

 

[ohreally]

See, that is why I think MM is holding back evidence for the time being. She can't be that incompetent and be in the position she is. I am sure she is very well advised. She must have more?

I agree that she is holding back on some evidence she thinks she has. What I don't know for sure, but believe to be true is that she has to have evidence to back up what she has already said in the charging documents. I could be wrong, but I think she can only use hidden evidence to support what she has outlined the charges to be. For example, I don't think she can now go before the court with a new reason why the arrest was illegal. She has stated in the charging documents it was an illegal arrest because the knife is legal. She can use any hidden evidence to prove her charges, that the knife is legal, but she cannot change the reason of the false arrest.

 

[DebinGA]

From the Baltimore 6's motion to remove SA:

“The need to quell the raging inferno of human rage and revulsion within the confines of the 7th District was emergent,” the motion reads. “These officers soon found themselves offered up to the masses by Mrs. Mosby to quell the uprising that caused most harm to the district where her husband is the City Council representative.”

... and where the Mosby's own home is. There's no way MM can overcome the perception that her decision was mainly self-interested and not fact-based imo.

 

[popsicle]

Justin Fenton @justin_fenton · 39m39 minutes ago
Mosby told The Sun that Murphy never represented her, but #FreddieGray officers show documents saying he did, in Oct http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-motion-to-dismiss-20150508-story.html#page=1 …


Justin Fenton @justin_fenton 39m39 minutes ago
Those docs are part of a broader motion to dismiss the case that alleges conflicts of interest: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-motion-to-dismiss-20150508-story.html …


https://twitter.com/justin_fentonJustin Fenton @justin_fenton · 34m34 minutes ago
@ In a case with high interest, we cover every substantive filing. Say they're successful and we didn't print it - what then?



Justin Fenton @justin_fenton · 32m32 minutes ago
@ We'll be covering any rebuttal motion the state's attorney files too


Justin Fenton @justin_fenton · 27m27 minutes ago
@ At this point in the process, this is actually not normal procedure. Personally never seen such motions filed this quickly

 

[dandy]

This should scare the socks off law-abiding Baltimore peeps:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...prosecutors-morale-20150508-story.html#page=1

Officers' understandable hesitation to be as "proactive" as before is being described as a "work slowdown" by some. One of the sanest voices throughout this saga has been young Baltimore City Councilman Brandon Scott:

"You have a perfect storm," City Councilman Brandon M. Scott said. "First of all, I think everyone is tired. But you also have to realize for everything that's going on in the city last week, we still have a violence problem in the city, and it's just being exacerbated by the light being shined on Baltimore." Scott said he doesn't believe officers are being "purposefully hesitant." "They have a pride in their job," Scott said. "They would not do that to prove a point."

Brandon Scott talks sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjeVuSxulo

ita - cops wouldn't - but now they know they can be criminally charged for the smallest decision. i haven't heard much from the police commissioner - wonder why? imo he's being viewed as too close to the mayor.

 

[Peliman]

Go fish!

In a March White House report on police reforms, Obama and his Task Force on 21st Century Policing praised Baltimore's force and its black chief for "implementing national best practices for policies and training," including "use of force" reforms. His task force even quoted Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony Batts, who said he changed "outdated procedures" that "put officers at odds with the community."

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/050615-751384-obama-praised-baltimore-police-department.htm