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Shocked to see he didn't have a reconstruction, so I made one. He looked much younger once I cleaned up his hair.
MD MD - Linthicum, Holiday Inn, WhtMale 19-29, UP5440, poss drug/alcohol abuse, poss depression, Mar'75
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Why did they add this information? I mean wasnt he born in a decade where most boys born in the US were cc'd at birth?
So why is that a distinctive feature then?
Well if you're trying to compare to a MP who happens to be uncircumcised, it allows you to easily rule him out.
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Sometimes they put that on an unidentified male's case page - I've seen where both not being circumcised, as well as having circumcision like this guy, are mentioned as an identifying feature. Kind of just depends on the investigating agency and how they do things. Most of the time it's totally inconsequential.
In this day and age, hard to believe that they have not connected this poor soul to his family by now. The capability surely exists, but there does not seem to be any will to make it happen from LE. Just seems like he's been forgotten. They have his dna, and that is ultimately what is going to solve this mystery. Millions of people have taken dna tests over the past few years, and somewhere out there is a sibling, a cousin, niece, nephew... It's a matter of a dna expert / forensic genealogist taking on this case to do the work and make the connection.
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It really is sad - he should've been IDed long ago! There is a photo of him, his DNA, and many other tidbits... someone has to know this man!
At the time of his death, there might have been some local coverage of the case, but it was not the same sort of reporting in 1975 that we have today. In fact, there are many missing person stories and unidentified person stories from that time that have never made it into the internet or websites. Hopefully with DNA and more posting of these older cases, more identifications can take place.
Over the past few years there have been so many previously unknown John & Jane Doe's identified. Hard to understand why the Linthicum Holiday Inn John Doe has not been identified 48 years later. As of January 11, 2021, GEDmatch now allows dna from unidentified remains to be compared against the entire database, as opposed to previously only those who had opted in. Maryland LE needs to connect with dnadoeproject.org and get Linthicum Holiday Inn John Doe into GEDmatch.
For perspective, here are just a few recent John Doe identifications:
For perspective, here are just a few recent John Doe identifications:
It seems like at least every month there is some John Doe from 30+ years ago identified with DNA technology. It can be done too for Linthicum, Holiday Inn, John Doe. Where there's a will, there is a way.
Here's a recent John Doe identification:
Somewhere out there is a sibling, cousin, niece, nephew, or maybe a grown child who should know what happened to their relative in the Linthicum, Holiday Inn in 1975.
Here's a recent John Doe identification:
Somewhere out there is a sibling, cousin, niece, nephew, or maybe a grown child who should know what happened to their relative in the Linthicum, Holiday Inn in 1975.
Bumping this thread up.
Many questions... where were his clothes? Was he killed in the hotel room, or elsewhere? What was the cause of death?Did he have drugs in his system? Is there any DNA to test? Any fingerprints? Did he - or someone else rent the room? Where are his remains today?
and another mystery solved. It can be done.
Marion Vinetta Nagle McWhorter was last seen at an Oregon shopping mall in 1974.
The 21-year–old "was never heard from again," and nearly five decades passed without answers in her disappearance, Oregon State Police said in a Sept. 16 news release.
"Family members lived and died without ever knowing what happened to their missing loved one," State Forensic Anthropologist Hailey Collord-Stalder said in the release.
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Then, in 2020, the Oregon State Medical Examiner's Office was awarded a grant from the National Institute of Justice that could be used to fund advanced DNA testing on unsolved cases, authorities said.
A bone sample was sent to Parabon NanoLabs in hopes DNA phenotyping and investigative genetic genealogy could lead to the woman's identification, police said.
... Genetic genealogy uses DNA testing coupled with "traditional genealogical methods" to create "family history profiles," according to the Library of Congress. With genealogical DNA testing, researchers can determine if and how people are biologically related.
"Forensic genetic genealogy allowed us not only to assist Oregon law enforcement and medicolegal personnel in identifying a woman who likely did not go missing voluntarily, but it also helped provide her family with answers and help relieve the uncertainty of what happened to Marion McWhorter," Collord-Stalder said.
Sister ‘always hoped to find' sibling who vanished in OR in 1974. Mystery solved.
Marion Vinetta Nagle McWhorter was last seen at an Oregon shopping mall in 1974.
The 21-year–old "was never heard from again," and nearly five decades passed without answers in her disappearance, Oregon State Police said in a Sept. 16 news release.
"Family members lived and died without ever knowing what happened to their missing loved one," State Forensic Anthropologist Hailey Collord-Stalder said in the release.
...
Then, in 2020, the Oregon State Medical Examiner's Office was awarded a grant from the National Institute of Justice that could be used to fund advanced DNA testing on unsolved cases, authorities said.
A bone sample was sent to Parabon NanoLabs in hopes DNA phenotyping and investigative genetic genealogy could lead to the woman's identification, police said.
... Genetic genealogy uses DNA testing coupled with "traditional genealogical methods" to create "family history profiles," according to the Library of Congress. With genealogical DNA testing, researchers can determine if and how people are biologically related.
"Forensic genetic genealogy allowed us not only to assist Oregon law enforcement and medicolegal personnel in identifying a woman who likely did not go missing voluntarily, but it also helped provide her family with answers and help relieve the uncertainty of what happened to Marion McWhorter," Collord-Stalder said.
Holiday Inn on elkridge landing rd in 1975. I used to go there then on weekends to listen and dance to live bands.
It was the only and closest hotel to the airport which was Friendship airport then as well.
Jmo
It was the only and closest hotel to the airport which was Friendship airport then as well.
Jmo
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Thanks for sharing about having been there back in the day. It's great to get a local account from someone who had experience with the location and remembers it from (I assume, approximately) this time / decade. Your account gives me a more vivid picture of the place - live music on weekends, dancing, perhaps a "party" type of atmosphere.
People quite likely drinking and taking recreational drugs. Meeting guests staying at the hotel, likely coming from all over. If it was, as you said, the only hotel in the vicinity of the airport (as a native Marylander I was aware it used to be Friendship Airport), makes sense that it would be a major meeting place and stopping point for tired travelers from every US state and nationality outside the US imaginable, wanting a convenient place to rest for the night, and that locals would find it a fun place to go, especially if they were teens who were maybe too young for the bars or there wasn't much in the way of other nightlife available to them back then.
Given your description it's also not a far stretch for me to imagine illicit activities going on there, perhaps if not in plain view than behind the scenes, where people used the Holiday Inn for drug deals, prostitution, etc. in the rooms.
There could have been many reasons this guy found himself deceased in that room - he could have been invited up there by a guest and took some drug(s) that proved fatal, perhaps triggering a possible underlying medical condition even in a small dose, and when he died the guest staying in that room simply panicked and didn't know what to do, or didn't want to be held responsible or get in trouble for admittedly possessing drugs and/or giving them to others.
As there were no marks or signs of physical violence on the body, I think this can easily be classified as an accidental death rather than deliberate homicide or suicide. And someone out there is surely missing a son or brother. I guarantee someone related to this young man is wondering from time to time whatever happened to my big brother or older cousin - perhaps he was a teen runaway and had been living like that for years, estranged from the family and involved in the drug scene - and his relatives deserve answers.
DNA will be the best bet of course, and I believe his is in CODIS.
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Read through the entire thread, did we rule out Christopher King yet? I didn't see any part where he was officially ruled out. I saw that Brian Page was ruled out because of his eye color, but couldn't find the same for Christopher King. If so, I'll search for some potential MPs that might fit the description
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No, he's not been ruled out as of yet.
Thanks for searching because this guy is totally identifiable and I bet he was reported missing by somebody.
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Of course! Would love to know then if anyone's reported the match to the Doe Network or to the offices that currently handle both cases. Would be interested to see if that's been done so we can at least have an exclusion more and hopefully find out who this is
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