MI - 2 children die in Detroit casino parking garage, police say they probably froze to death.

Many people don’t even consider calling ambulances because they are insanely expensive. I have driven myself to the hospital a few times when it would have been better to call an ambulance, but it never crossed my mind to do so because I know I can’t afford one.
In my opinion, the ambulance almost certainly would be free because there would likely be no funds or even billing address for these folks. What a tragic story.
 
I struggle a bit with the timing. She was loading up 1 child for hospital and that’s when she noticed the 2nd.

I understand lack of resources and I wouldn’t doubt for a second that she was trying to get resources in Detroit and didn’t receive what she needed, or there’s possibility of her not calling back.

I even understand fear of calling 911. Though I think the timeline is that she called family/friend and they were coming to help them but then she found the 1 child and they went to the hospital anyway so I don’t think she called just for help for the child. They may have thought just going to ER would be faster than waiting for ambulance. But I could understand the fear because she’s living with kids in a car.

I just cannot wrap my head around not noticing 1 child was dead/dying and then only noticing the 2nd while taking the 1st.

Carbon monoxide could explain it though because she would have had poisoning and not being thinking well also
 
Sometime during the night, the car stopped running — police said there was some sort of mechanical issue.

By noon on Monday, the mother noticed her 9-year-old son wasn’t breathing

During the day, he was a third grader dancing and running around with his principal in a warm school building in Ecorse. At night, he was without a warm place to call home and on Monday, he froze to death in a parking garage, along with his 2-year-old sister, in a tragic case emblematic of all the ways families experiencing homelessness can fall through the cracks.

"Our hearts go out to the family," said Ecorse Public Schools Superintendent Josha Talison in a phone interview Wednesday. "We are going to be there when the siblings return to school for any wraparound supports for them. It's a horrible tragedy that no family should ever have to experience."
 
Sometime during the night, the car stopped running — police said there was some sort of mechanical issue.

By noon on Monday, the mother noticed her 9-year-old son wasn’t breathing

During the day, he was a third grader dancing and running around with his principal in a warm school building in Ecorse. At night, he was without a warm place to call home and on Monday, he froze to death in a parking garage, along with his 2-year-old sister, in a tragic case emblematic of all the ways families experiencing homelessness can fall through the cracks.

"Our hearts go out to the family," said Ecorse Public Schools Superintendent Josha Talison in a phone interview Wednesday. "We are going to be there when the siblings return to school for any wraparound supports for them. It's a horrible tragedy that no family should ever have to experience."
Nothing will bring these precious children back, but I wonder why the nine-year-old was discovered at noon on Monday if he’s normally in school? Maybe the whole family was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning and didn’t wake? Jmo
 
Nothing will bring these precious children back, but I wonder why the nine-year-old was discovered at noon on Monday if he’s normally in school? Maybe the whole family was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning and didn’t wake? Jmo
The weather in the upper Midwest has been crazy these past few days. Maybe school was cancelled that day due to ice and/or snow.
 
This is tragic. I wonder why no one ever thought to obtain sleeping bags rated for extreme cold temperatures to snuggle the children in. Or why the adults didn't cradle the poor children with their own bodies to keep them warm.
It is extremely tragic.
One needs to have money to spare to buy sleeping bags rated for extreme cold temperatures.
People unknowingly move about whilst asleep, for all we know the adults may have originally been cradling the children with their own bodies for warmth.
 
“How horrible, how tragic, how unspeakable, I think everybody in the metropolitan area is feeling that way right now,” Faith Fowler, executive director of Cass Community Services told me last week. “All of us are searching for ways we can promise it will never happen again. And I don’t know that we can make that promise, even as we strive to perfect the system.”

Right. Because the system, though well-meaning, is flawed.

And so are human beings.
 
Deputy Mayor Melia Howard, who was at the public viewing on Wednesday, identified the children as 2-year-old A’millah Currie and 9-year-old Darnell Currie.

"You just never know what anybody is going through," Dewberry said.

"With all the taxes that people pay in this city. ... You're building up the city, but you're forgetting about the people that live in it," Pickett, of Detroit, said
 

I don't want to read anything into it that isn't there, but that second article gives the impression these tragics deaths may not have been due to freezing to death, as initially reported.

jmo
 
I don't want to read anything into it that isn't there, but that second article gives the impression these tragics deaths may not have been due to freezing to death, as initially reported.

jmo

I really don't understand why it can "take months" to get the results back. If the children did not die from hypothermia, but some other issues, the other children may be at risk.

That doesn't make sense to me. Isn’t this a top priority issue?!
 
Nothing will bring these precious children back, but I wonder why the nine-year-old was discovered at noon on Monday if he’s normally in school? Maybe the whole family was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning and didn’t wake? Jmo
The schools were probably closed that day for mid-winter break according to these calendars:


 
I don't want to read anything into it that isn't there, but that second article gives the impression these tragics deaths may not have been due to freezing to death, as initially reported.

jmo
The second article also says

"At the hospital, she and her mother, who was also with her, realized A'millah also wasn't breathing"
I know shock can do absolutely awful things to the mind but, she called another family member to come take Darnell to hospital, (I'm unclear on this part, they got him there themselves or?) But didn't notice that A’millah was dead until actually at the hospital, someone please make that make sense for me. I'm presuming A’millah would be the youngest there too, the most vulnerable.

Does anyone know what kind of van this was? I have to admit I get mixed up sometimes between the US/UK definition of certain vehicles, so I want to be sure what type of vehicle I'm trying to picture.
 
The second article also says

"At the hospital, she and her mother, who was also with her, realized A'millah also wasn't breathing"
I know shock can do absolutely awful things to the mind but, she called another family member to come take Darnell to hospital, (I'm unclear on this part, they got him there themselves or?) But didn't notice that A’millah was dead until actually at the hospital, someone please make that make sense for me. I'm presuming A’millah would be the youngest there too, the most vulnerable.

Does anyone know what kind of van this was? I have to admit I get mixed up sometimes between the US/UK definition of certain vehicles, so I want to be sure what type of vehicle I'm trying to picture.
The way I understood it from the articles I've read:

Mom pulls into the parking garage around 1am.
Sometime over night the van runs out of gas and shuts off.
Mom wakes up around noon and discovers the oldest not breathing.
Once he's off to the hospital, and grandma stays behind with all the other kids (one of them hers, and the others are her grandkids), grandma notices the grandbaby is also not breathing.

I have a LOT of questions about those details but so far I haven't seen any further info.
The fact that mom didn't wake up until noon is the first thing that stands out to me & does make me wonder if somehow they were all affected by something other than the frigid temps.

I haven't seen any clarity on the van so I can't say what kind it was.

jmo
 

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