Curious what Lehman thought of Smith's defense and her embarrassing,unprofessional antics, especially since Smith lost.Shannon Smith and Mariell Lehman are no longer partners. Mariell now has her own practice in Macomb County.
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Wow, just wow.re that long post with clips on this page and this question:
What about this scenario for Nov 30th?
C gets call from school
JC calls Bryan - do something stupid, gun in car ( detailed in the previous post)
What happens next?
Scenario: she checks her car in the lot before heading to OHS, gun isn't there. Next she tells James it’s not there. James replies that it will be at home and he'll check for it later .
Jennifer thinks - We can’t ask him now because if I search his bag and he has it, he’ll get suspended. It’s probably at home. Important to ' not get caught.' This is why they didn't check the back pack, but they just hoped it was at home despite realising it wasn't still in the car ( spare tyre box)
They attend OHS meeting. 12 mins. They leave at 11.16am..ish?
She goes back to work. James by phone logs onto door dashes so he doesn’t immediately go home and check if the gun is there.
12.51pm Police said Ethan opened fire inside Oxford High School
1:37 p.m. James returned home after learning of the active shooter situation at his son's school and dialled 911 ‘ 'I think my son took the gun,' Crumbley says
( around the same time, before either have been told the shooter is EC, she speaks with James.
She also texted Smith to say 'the gun is gone and so are the bullets' and other frantic texts followed, including: 'Omg Andy, he's going to kill himself. He must be the shooter.' )
Part of the 911 call, rest at the link
911 OPERATOR: 911 what is the location of your emergency?
JAMES CRUMBLEY: I am not really sure. I am at my house. There is an active shooter situation going on at the high school. My son goes to the high school. I have a missing gun at my house. I need an officer to come to my house right away please.
911 OPERATOR: OK, I am not going to be able to send anybody to your house right now, sir. They are on the active shooter situation right now.
JAMES CRUMBLEY: I understand that. There's a million cops there. I have a missing gun and my son is at the school. And we had to go meet with the counselor this morning because of something that he wrote on a test paper and then I was in town and I saw a whole bunch of cops going somewhere. And I made sure … I wanted to get to the high school to see if something was going on at the high school. And then somebody told me that there was an active shooter and then I raced home just to like find out and I think my son took the gun. I don’t know if it’s him. I don’t know what’s going on. I am really freaking out. My son’s name is Ethan Crumbley. C-R-U-M-B-L-E-Y.
911 call made by school shooter Ethan Crumbley's dad played in court
James Crumbley called 911 45 minutes after the shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan to report that his gun was missing, that he thought his son had taken it, and that he was 'freaking out.'www.dailymail.co.uk
'I saw a whole bunch of cops going somewhere. And I made sure .....'
made sure of what
Hear! Hear! Fascinating read, and well worth the read. Thank you for posting it.IMO his parents had abandoned him for years (testimony of a neighbor). Traumatizing a child e.g. by neglect, rewires their brains permanently, so we can’t assume his violent tendencies existed independently of the way he was treated by them.
There was plenty enough in that household to create the conditions for either murder or suicide; you treat a child the way they did from a young age, at the very least, you’re going to get disordered thinking patterns, because normal human thinking patterns require certain parental (or parent-figure) interactions.
There is a lot of research current in this area. As an example that may not exactly be obvious, they have discovered that it’s not unusual for adopted children with behavior (issues), likely before they were adopted, to have poor internal rhythm. Treatment involves time on a trampoline, and having them bounce.
The lead scientist in this area is Van der Kolk.
Here’s a snippet of his work to summarize what I’m trying to say:
Traumatised people live in a world that's different from people who have not been traumatised. Their world looks different in every conceivable measure, whether it's brain or mind or body. It's a different planet.
Bessel van der Kolk
Healing trauma through mind and body - ABC listen
Boston Trauma Centre director Bessell van der Kolk believes that traumatic events affect people’s bodies as much as their brains. He explained to Lynne Malcolm why self-awareness is at the centre of his unconventional approach to therapy.www.abc.net.au
I believe this is the speech where van der Kolk talks about trampolines. Hearing him speak like this may be the best way to latch onto the kinds of things he talks about. His focus is how child abuse changes the brain, including how violence comes about. Very compelling talk IMO.
The JFP comes across as very confident. Maybe she volunteered when nobody else stepped up right away. I am not sure what to make of her speaking to the media so quickly. I also do not know what to make of her statement about Jennifer being the last person to have the gun so therefore she is guilty.
LOL!
I thought she didn't go back to work after the meeting at the school? Didn't she do her affair or go to horses?re that long post with clips on this page and this question:
What about this scenario for Nov 30th?
C gets call from school
JC calls Bryan - do something stupid, gun in car ( detailed in the previous post)
What happens next?
Scenario: she checks her car in the lot before heading to OHS, gun isn't there. Next she tells James it’s not there. James replies that it will be at home and he'll check for it later .
Jennifer thinks - We can’t ask him now because if I search his bag and he has it, he’ll get suspended. It’s probably at home. Important to ' not get caught.' This is why they didn't check the back pack, but they just hoped it was at home despite realising it wasn't still in the car ( spare tyre box)
They attend OHS meeting. 12 mins. They leave at 11.16am..ish?
She goes back to work. James by phone logs onto door dashes so he doesn’t immediately go home and check if the gun is there.
12.51pm Police said Ethan opened fire inside Oxford High School
1:37 p.m. James returned home after learning of the active shooter situation at his son's school and dialled 911 ‘ 'I think my son took the gun,' Crumbley says
( around the same time, before either have been told the shooter is EC, she speaks with James.
She also texted Smith to say 'the gun is gone and so are the bullets' and other frantic texts followed, including: 'Omg Andy, he's going to kill himself. He must be the shooter.' )
Part of the 911 call, rest at the link
911 OPERATOR: 911 what is the location of your emergency?
JAMES CRUMBLEY: I am not really sure. I am at my house. There is an active shooter situation going on at the high school. My son goes to the high school. I have a missing gun at my house. I need an officer to come to my house right away please.
911 OPERATOR: OK, I am not going to be able to send anybody to your house right now, sir. They are on the active shooter situation right now.
JAMES CRUMBLEY: I understand that. There's a million cops there. I have a missing gun and my son is at the school. And we had to go meet with the counselor this morning because of something that he wrote on a test paper and then I was in town and I saw a whole bunch of cops going somewhere. And I made sure … I wanted to get to the high school to see if something was going on at the high school. And then somebody told me that there was an active shooter and then I raced home just to like find out and I think my son took the gun. I don’t know if it’s him. I don’t know what’s going on. I am really freaking out. My son’s name is Ethan Crumbley. C-R-U-M-B-L-E-Y.
911 call made by school shooter Ethan Crumbley's dad played in court
James Crumbley called 911 45 minutes after the shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan to report that his gun was missing, that he thought his son had taken it, and that he was 'freaking out.'
'I saw a whole bunch of cops going somewhere. And I made sure .....'
made sure of what
The evidence presented at trial concluded that it was JC who was last in possession of the gun.
I dont know....
No, she went back to work and when she got the news that there was a shooter at Oxford HS she was yelling as she flew out of the building she worked in.
Yup
Good post.
I’m not surprised the diary was a huge deal to others. IMO, it’s some of the strongest evidence that EC wanted his parents to help him with his mental struggles and had told them as much. Yet they not only did nothing to help him, they also went out and bought him a gun!
We saw Jennifer with the gun at the gun range but we do not know where in the house or car the gun was when EC got his hands on it. It really doesn't matter if Jennifer brought the case into the house and put it away since it had the 0000 lock code. Both of the Crumbleys were aware of that.
SS defense attny had such an unpleasant and unprofessional co,urtroom behavior along with her disjointed and unfocused points made it impossible for me to believe her or feel any understanding of her and the defendant. IDK if it would have changed the outcome, but yours is a great question.
I think her lawyer could have done a better job refuting the evidence. Smith was distracting which did not help. When JC took the stand I expected a woman who would be remorseful, show empathy, regret and love for her son. She came across as cold. She truly doesn't understand the error of her ways.
Even if it doesn't have cctv the timeline and the 911 transcript provide rich pickings for the prosecutor at James's trial next month.
