MI - 4 students killed, 6 injured, shooting at Oxford High School, 30 Nov 2021 *Arrest incl parents*

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If that were I possibility, I was thinking about them illegally crossing over an un-manned section, but I don't know how feasible that would be.

It's now almost 7pm EST. Where are the Crumleys? Did they get lost on their way to a police station??

No worries. there is water between Michigan (and Ohio, and NY) for the entire Canadian border. It's not like in Montana, etc. which is a land border. Northern Wisconsin would be their closest land border.
 
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I haven’t been following this because school shootings are just so traumatizing and upsetting, and I just can’t. :( But I just saw this about the parents. OMG no wonder this kid was so messed up! What is wrong with them? They just ditched their kid to save themselves when he’s sitting in jail for murdering several kids at his school??? With the gun they just bought him? Like someone else said…no words.
As a teacher and a parent, I empathize with your trauma.

Younger children forced to do active shooter drills while not being able to understand why.

Older children who sort of understand why, but still filled with anxiety and fear every single time another gun nut decides to shoot up a school. Or concert. Or movie theater.

And quite frankly, being on constant alert is emotionally stressful for teachers and admin as well. Phone alerts from my kid’s school, lockdowns at my school. My nerves are shot.
 
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Is Clarkston close to Oxford?

Off to google...
Is this correct? I don't know how to get the darn photos off the map.
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Is Clarkston close to Oxford?

Off to google...
Is this correct? I don't know how to get the darn photos off the map.
Google Maps
Looks like a half hour drive. So not far. I'm guessing there is extended family in that area.
I really think that they will turn themselves in soon, and are just trying to stay away from the media at this point.
 
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What if they crossed before the warrant and had their vaccine papers & passports ready.
What if they left last night?
Vaccines? Not seeing it. Moo.
 
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Looks like a half hour drive. So not far. I'm guessing there is extended family in that area.
I really think that they will turn themselves in soon, and are just trying to stay away from the media at this point.

You might be right.

I'd be more worried about the US Marshals being on my tail, than the media though ;)
 
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That thought crossed my mind too. But would anyone help them with what they are charged with? This involves children. Maybe I’m too naive…
Sadly, I fear you are. Kids don’t matter.
 
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Does anyone have links to the parents social media?

I saw the dad's FB yesterday or the day before, but it's no longer up.
 
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That thought crossed my mind too. But would anyone help them with what they are charged with? This involves children. Maybe I’m too naive…
Sadly, I fear you are. Kids don’t matter.
 
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FlightRadar shows the helicopter has circled an area off Clark Rd (west of screenshot) and a neighborhood in this screenshot.

Not sure if its the same helo, but there's one circling up there again, with a plane following
 
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It was mentioned on Agenda Free TV that all of their social media is gone, although there were a few screenshots from someone it was thought was the father. It seemed to fit and let's just say it will not help their cause.

Live broadcast, so no link.
 
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Neglectful and possibly abusive parents, kid doing whatever he can to get their attention and gain their approval? JMO
I definitely want to know more about why the older son left the home.
 
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Well said.

Only in this case, I think the totality is: Giving the keys to an intoxicated person whose apparent intent is engage in street racing. You then tell him about a popular street racing area and encourage him to go.
And, Lol, tell him to not get caught. I. Cannot. With. These. People.
 
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You think they went off to kill themselves!
Not Necessarily. But the immediate refusal to cooperate, telling their son not to say anything, then going on the lam are very reminiscent of those other parents i mentioned.
 
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I'm sorry, but I do not agree with the theme of blaming the parents for their son's action. I'm on the side of reasonable accountability for the parents. Many parents have problems with their children, I'm not willing to jump on the bandwagon of parents bad. MOO
 
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