MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, fatally shot while jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #1

[Shiressleuth]

Of course I attended. Ally was above all else... my best friend! The funeral was held at a local church, and the entire experience felt totally unreal... like how could this be reality, kind of feeling. Her casket was there before we arrived. The service was maybe 30 mins long. Then I was there when her casket was loaded on to hearse and drove off into the distance.
Everyone I’ve talked to that attended the funeral (including many of my coworkers, and my entire family) was shocked to hear she had been cremated. It definitely feels like her parents didnt want that to be made obvious for some reason.

Normally mourners follow the hearse in their cars with family first. Did you and other friends not do that?

 

[Shiressleuth]

Domestic violence murders usually happens in the house or in the front yard or back yard. So why would family follow her on a jog during a heated moment?

They simply would have shot her before she left or stewd on it and waited until she got back. Jmo

To hide who the perpetrator was perhaps?

:cow:

 

[Shiressleuth]

:tyou: for sharing your knowledge and :welcome: to Websleuths and this case discussion.

The notion of being hooked up to a polygraph machine gives me the heebie-jeebies I'm sure this would be a situation where my BP would rise in similar fashion to "white coat hypertension" in a physician's office or undergoing medical tests.

white coat hy·per·ten·sion

a syndrome whereby a patient's feeling of anxiety in a medical environment results in an abnormally high reading when their blood pressure is measured.

I read on another thread that you just need a drawing pin in your back pocket that you lean on every time you get a question and it messes up the answers.

:cow:

 

[Shiressleuth]

Once again, you seem to think that there’s some motive here for me to convince YOU. If If I convinced everyone, or no one, on this forum, at the end of the day it doesn’t actually change anything. This isn’t a court trial. You understand this right?

Furthermore, I’m perfectly aware that there actually is no convincing you. Anything I tell you will always be me completely written off as deflection. That’s perfect fine by me, but it’s your loss, not mine.

I’d also like to point out a clear an very obvious doubly standard here. You say, “Until LE can give us info that points to them, I cannot and will not consider them as less than a victim.”
Do you grant me this same curtesy? Of course not. The police have yet to present even a single shred of anything even resembling anything like evidence that I had anything to do with Alex’s death. The reason for this is because there isn’t any, and I know they know this. Nor will there ever be any because I’m not a murder.
So to be completely honest with you, I have absolutely ZERO fear that LE will ever try to hold me responsible for this crime.
I do, however, have a great deal of fear that LE either botched this case by over looking the parents in the beginning, or that they know the parents are guilty but lack the evidence to ensure an actual conviction in court.

As far as “bashing the family” goes. Well I really hate to have to tell you this but everything I’ve said about Nikki and Franz is true and LE knows this is true. Or is that just irrelevant to you? Like doesn’t matter to you if it’s actually true or not... it’s not “nice” and people should only be allowed to say “nice” things about her parents. Never mind LE has repeatedly called them suspects in this case.

Nothing about your expressed views here have any basis in objectivity or rationality. You’re clearly always going to view this from the emotional lense that you just don’t want it to be the parents because it’s such a repulsive conclusion. And I would agree with you, this isn’t a conclusion I wish for or hoped to come to in any way when I started this journey.
I never wish or ask for any of this, losing Alex, having my life turned upside down, dealing with severe depression for the first time in my life, having people look at me with suspicion for absolutely no reason other than I loved and dated her. I never wished for any of this, especially the eventual conclusion I came to.
Im honestly am filled with tremendous guilt they I ever let her move back into that house with Franz. I should have been more comprising and less stubborn about getting married and moving into a bigger place together.
I feel guilt for not being there to protect or save her in that moment when she needed me to protect her. I was an army medic for 6 years, 2 tours in Iraq, I’m excellent at saving people from life threatening gunshot wounds. If I couldn’t have stopped it I could have at least saved her life if I had been there. I think about how scared she must of been laying there on that guy’s front lawn bleeding out.

These are the kind of thought that haunt me daily. But I’m not asking for anyone’s sympathy or benefit of doubt.
It’s not like I’m just asking this for myself but no one else. I don’t want ANYONE to be giving any benefit of doubt, that includes her parents! I want everyone to be looked at, everyone questioned, no one should be able to play the hurt feelings card to escape this scrutiny. I want answers and I want justice, however unwelcome and appalling that eventually conclusion ends up being.

TY for continuing to post on here despite your dreadful loss.
You are saying that the parents have lied about their alibi and were not together as was first stated. Where was N supposed to be initially then, before that version changed?

 

[Spellbound]

I also remember reading that he and Ally were supposed to meet sometime on Saturday. Wonder where and when the alleged "meeting" was supposed to be :thinking:

I don't remember ever reading this. interesting, if true. If anyone comes across a link, will you post it please?

 

[Shiressleuth]

There have, indeed, been conflicting reports regarding the number of "shots" heard or casings found and the number of Ally's gunshot wounds. I think we're going to have to wait for the release of the autopsy report that should clearly indicate where and how many gunshot wounds Ally sustained. I'm curious about what else might be learned from autopsy report.

My guess is hit once, from the car, so casing is in the car. As Ally ran away, shooter gets out and fires 4 more (4 casings only retrieved). Those shots miss and Ally collapses from the first shot. Shooter gets in car and speeds off. The homeowner hears 5 shots and car door close. May even have seen or heard the car drive away. JMO
(He hears shots and calls from a home phone which he cannot take outside and explains he has to go and help her, according to the 911 call.)

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I don't remember ever reading this. interesting, if true. If anyone comes across a link, will you post it please?

IIRC, it was mentioned in one of WS posts.

 

[Spellbound]

Thanks BDE ... I will look for the post that may have mentioned the possibility of Ally and former BF (meet up)

 

[Shiressleuth]

But she had multiple wounds from the one shot that hit her and her organs were damaged so severely she was unable to be an organ donor. To me that indicates, the ammunition used was shotgun shells versus slugs.

IIRC it was because it was a murder requiring an autopsy that meant her organs could not be donated.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Sandals? WhoTH goes shooting in sandals?

Hmmm. A hippy ?

 

[No it's not]

I also remember reading that he and Ally were supposed to meet sometime on Saturday. Wonder where and when the alleged "meeting" was supposed to be :thinking:

That was mentioned in the Crime Watch Daily episode with WS. He said Ally and him had worked the previous night, and that she was going to come over to his place on Saturday morning, the day she was murdered.

-Nin

 

[Shiressleuth]

Are there photos / video of suspect on an earlier thread ?

Forgive me, but Tapatalk search is not my friend today.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

I am still catching up (10 more pages to go) and have seen no video of either sandals or suspect so far.

 

[No it's not]

That was mentioned in the Crime Watch Daily episode with WS. He said Ally and him had worked the previous night, and that she was going to come over to his place on Saturday morning, the day she was murdered.

-Nin

3:03 mark

https://crimewatchdaily.com/videos/0-50iwncoa/

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

That was mentioned in the Crime Watch Daily episode with WS. He said Ally and him had worked the previous night, and that she was going to come over to his place on Saturday morning, the day she was murdered.

-Nin

From article accompanying CWD videos:

Where were you at the precise time of the shooting?
"I was at home," said Sutherland. "Ally and I had actually worked the night before. And she was planning on coming over that morning."

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

From article accompanying CWD videos:

Where were you at the precise time of the shooting?
"I was at home," said Sutherland. "Ally and I had actually worked the night before. And she was planning on coming over that morning."

If that was the plan, when and why did Ally decide not to go? :thinking:

 

[Shiressleuth]

And how are we to take it if the quoted persons do not know and are being quoted inaccurately? We have no way to confirm or refute them. I guess we just toss them out with no consideration?

We have to make our own minds up about VI posts. He does not even have to provide any sources yet he has done so.

 

[Shiressleuth]

If that was the plan, when and why did Ally decide not to go? :thinking:

She may well have done so before heading home to her parents to sleep. Why do you say she decided not to go?
I may have missed that (or just not got to it yet).

 

[MittenScarpetta]

IIRC it was because it was a murder requiring an autopsy that meant her organs could not be donated.

That was actually a statement from her mother, in an article, saying Ally’s organs were so damaged that she could not be an organ donor.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

She may well have done so before heading home to her parents to sleep. Why do you say she decided not to go?
I may have missed that (or just not got to it yet).

Ally was jogging at 2:30 in the afternoon. No one has ever said that she had gone to visit WS that morning like they had planned, so she must have changed her mind at some point.

From article accompanying CWD videos:

Where were you at the precise time of the shooting?
"I was at home," said Sutherland. "Ally and I had actually worked the night before. And she was planning on coming over that morning."

 

[No it's not]

As someone who as been working on finding Ally’s killer since day one, also as someone who has regular checked this thread to see if any progress had been on this end, and to compare the directions I had started to look down to any direction anyone else might have made any progress with.... let me just tell you what I really think about pretty much everything I’ve read on this thread... and many you are not going to like what I’m about to say, but if you read my actual words and can keep yourself from taking it personally, I think you’ll be the better for it.

Here’s what I’ve mostly observed.... speculative chaos without direction, at the same time. I’ll admit, a lot of this simply comes down to the extremely limited information released by investigators.
An another part of this comes down to a highly organized, planned, detailed, and excuted effort, by Ally’s mother, Nikki Brueger, to deliberately distort, twist, exaggerate, down-play, and cover up different peices of information relating to many different aspect of the investigation.

This “effort” has been going on since the day Alex was killed... and more recently, if anyone reads anything her mother has been saying over the past 2 weeks, this “effort” has been kicked into EXTREME over-drive as panic has taken over, which panic probably should be taking over at this point.... there’s LOTS of reason to panicked if your Nikki Brueger at the moment.

If you want to know what it looks like when someone’s who’s guilty goes into panic mode? Look at Nikki Brueger over the past couple weeks..... that’s I’ll say about any of that at this time.

Now admittedly, I realize the first 2 parts I just described are responsible for large portions of the speculative, unorganized, directionless Chaos that I described reading on here. But here’s the part that most of you have to own here....

First, if you don’t know something, information is unavailable for whatever reason, and you decided to “speculate”.... OK. That’s fine, I did it alot actually while I was working on this case.
HOWEVER, what DO NOT want to be doing is then building upon an original speculation (your’s or anyone elses) with more speculative, then more, and more, maybe little more?... no, let’s get joe at the coffee shop in on this too, or then Lindsey sitting at home on couch, I bet they can add some fun speculations to this speculative monstrosity we’ve created..... that’s the name I’ve given these things by the way, and you’re welcome!

NOW, I get the temptation!
I get it... because I even did it in the very beginning. and I realized why I did it too.
I did it for the same reason any of you do, I wanted “feel” like I was going somewhere, To “feel” like I was making some kind of progress and that I wasn’t just letting Alex’s murder go unsolved. I was severely depressed over Alex death and it felt good to “feel” like I was figuring something out..... but here’s the truth.

Despite how it “feels”, in the end.... you’ve gone absolutely no where, solved absolutely nothing, you end up with exactly the same amount of actual useful information that you started with, and you’ve made absolutely Zero progress of any kind.
Not all of you do this, and of those you that do, you do so to different extents.

This is why, I’m sorry to say, I never once found anything on here that was actually helpful in anyway. Like I said, a big part of this isn’t your fault.... You just didn’t have much info and often what info you did have was being deliberately manipulated by mom.... so you speculated a lot! Again, that’s ok!
But going forward, be aware of just how insanely easy it is to speculate yourselves off into oblivion.
The only other thing I would say...
I mean, I don’t really feel like should have to at this point, but I’ll say it anyway...
Be careful of assumptions and speculations you decide to make about someone, especially when it’s based off so called “common wisdom”. In other words, base assumptions like “parents always innocent”, “boyfriends are usually guilt”...
Also, polygraph results are ********. However, it can be a useful tool in pressuring a confession of someone who guilty...but beyond that... they’re complete ********! and the majority of law enforcement is aware of this.

These last 2 things I mentioned.... I having been “the boyfriend who failed a polygraph”... I cant even begin to describe to any of you how I’ve been treated since Alex’s death, or what this experience has been like, but I’m sure you can try imaging it for yourselves....
And that’s not even mentioning the hospital I worked with Alex at, they asking me recently if I would take “leave of absence” to protect the reputation of the hospital and prevent any conflicts that might arise from me working there. I, not politely, refused and they’ve backed off.. those hospital executives are going to be in that same line that was referring to in my last post.
That’s all I have to say.

-BBM in the quoted text-

On day one getting interested in this case, I filtered all videos online showing the crime scene. I was able to determine the exact location of where Ally was found. I felt it may be important to the case.

All IMO

-Nin