MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

[DexterMorgan]

Why are questions being asked and then posts are being deleted?

What's going on?

I guess I'm not in on the joke. But that's ok. We are only discussing a murder after all.

Sometimes when you reply to a particular quote. That person changed their original comment before your reply goes through.

So you delete your post before looking like you are replying to something that isn't there. jmo

So nothing personal.

But we are all getting use to this new Websleuths platform that just took place 3 months ago.

So don't worry.

 

[FlossyMay]

Vera Hogan and I had a falling out after I found out she had information she had never disclosed to LE about Franz and Nikki’s behaviors that seemed suspicious. Vera deliberately withheld this information from LE because she was afraid it would eventually get back to Nikki that she had went to the investigators about Franz’s behavior during multiple interviews.
Vera was afraid of the Public backlash and how it might affect her readership if it came out that she, herself, had suspicions of Nikki and Franz (the poor grieving parents)... so she stayed silent.
Vera eventually went to the LE with the information but I was disgusted that she put her own reputation ahead of getting justice for Alex.

How do you know she went to LE with that information? Did she tell you that?

 

[flourish]

Just bumping the CWD link from a few pages back, as it was being asked about. It was recorded 18 months after the murder - so 6 months ago.

So it was recorded about six months ago, and aired in May. Very interesting. Plot keeps on thickening while the hole is being dug.

 

[sorrell skye]

Vera contacted me after the CWD interview saying she believes me and had suspicions of her own about Franz and Nikki. We started emailing back and forth multiple times a day over a couple months.
I told her the back story with Nikki and I. How Nikki’s behaviors and stories changed over time as she noticed I was growing suspicion of Franz.
That the ONLY reason Nikki claimed she suddenly suspected me was because she knew I was going to bring up Franz and Ally’s toxic relationship on CWD.
Vera also agreed, as someone who’s done the majority of interviews with Franz and Nikki, that there’s ZERO chance that Franz wrote what’s on Ally’s Gofundme page.
It was deliberately made to look like Franz, but it was Nikki all the way.
I could go on and on, we discussed many things... but at the end of the day Vera feared how this might affect her public reputation, and refused to report on any of it.

I just have no respect for someone who places their own reputation above getting justice for Alex. We haven’t spoken in a few months now.

Vera is an associate editor with the tctimes. She's been a reporter with the tctimes for 13 years. As a seasoned journalist, there's no doubt she's well aware of the legal parameters reporters must adhere to, as well as the role of a reporter.

A respectable journalist reports the verifiable facts. I can understand why she wouldn't want to publish anything that was based on mere speculation or niggling suspicions. A responsible journalist is not going to be reckless and jeopardize her career by publishing a story that isn't fact-based.

As far as I'm concerned, Vera should be lauded for her integrity, rather than criticized.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Sometimes when you reply to a particular quote. That person changed their original comment before your reply goes through.

So you delete your post before looking like you are replying to something that isn't there. jmo

So nothing personal.

But we are all getting use to this new Websleuths platform that just took place 3 months ago.

So don't worry.

Yes but I answered as you deleted it but I do still remember what you asked me before you deleted. You can't delete my memory. Lol. I will just not answer posts till after the edit window has passed.

Eta. Back in 60 minutes.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Yes but I answered as you deleted it but I do still remember what you asked me before you deleted. You can't delete my memory. Lol. I will just not answer posts till after the edit window has passed.

I thought I was replying to someone else. And Dm's mean direct messages.

So their we go and we can now move on

No harm. No foul.

 

[flourish]

Yes but I answered as you deleted it but I do still remember what you asked me before you deleted. You can't delete my memory. Lol. I will just not answer posts till after the edit window has passed.

Sorry I don't know wth you are on about in your posts tbh. What's dms?

Google can become your best friend and a great place to find out definitions of words and acronyms!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Vera is an associate editor with the tctimes. She's been a reporter with the tctimes for 13 years. As a seasoned journalist, there's no doubt she's well aware of the legal parameters reporters must adhere to, as well as the role of a reporter.

A respectable journalist reports the verifiable facts. I can understand why she wouldn't want to publish anything that was based on mere speculation or niggling suspicions. A responsible journalist is not going to be reckless and jeopardize her career by publishing a story that isn't fact-based.

As far as I'm concerned, Vera should be lauded for her integrity, rather than criticized.

Thank you!


Vera Hogan named Times associate editor

 

[Combatmedic2121]

So it was recorded about six months ago, and aired in May. Very interesting. Plot keeps on thickening while the hole is being dug.

I reported this post and your repeated insinuations are rediculous and offensive. You should know better by now.
I barrowed a rifle to protect myself, my family, and my 6 year old niece from a man who killed his own daughter. I’m not going to explain to you why I have to do this. This isn’t an interrogation.

 

[Combatmedic2121]

Vera is an associate editor with the tctimes. She's been a reporter with the tctimes for 13 years. As a seasoned journalist, there's no doubt she's well aware of the legal parameters reporters must adhere to, as well as the role of a reporter.

A respectable journalist reports the verifiable facts. I can understand why she wouldn't want to publish anything that was based on mere speculation or niggling suspicions. A responsible journalist is not going to be reckless and jeopardize her career by publishing a story that isn't fact-based.

As far as I'm concerned, Vera should be lauded for her integrity, rather than criticized.

You must have missed the part where Vera withheld information and suspicious observations from LE out of fear that Nikki would find out she was the one who told LE about Franz suspicious behavior during the interviews.
You call this integrity?

 

[bluesneakers]

Vera is an associate editor with the tctimes. She's been a reporter with the tctimes for 13 years. As a seasoned journalist, there's no doubt she's well aware of the legal parameters reporters must adhere to, as well as the role of a reporter.

A respectable journalist reports the verifiable facts. I can understand why she wouldn't want to publish anything that was based on mere speculation or niggling suspicions. A responsible journalist is not going to be reckless and jeopardize her career by publishing a story that isn't fact-based.

As far as I'm concerned, Vera should be lauded for her integrity, rather than criticized.

Thank you for this post. I agree.

 

[liltexans]

I reported this post and your repeated insinuations are rediculous and offensive. You should know better by now.
I barrowed a rifle to protect myself, my family, and my 6 year old niece from a man who killed his own daughter. I’m not going to explain to you why I have to do this. This isn’t an interrogation.

Hi Combatmedic2121, I am just catching up on the thread, but are you referring to Franz when you say "a man who killed his own daughter"?

I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in this conversation.

 

[Combatmedic2121]

Hi Combatmedic2121, I am just catching up on the thread, but are you referring to Franz when you say "a man who killed his own daughter"?

I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in this conversation.

Yes

 

[liltexans]

Yes

Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Jbl94]

Sorry if this has been answered before as I'm fairly new to this case. If Franz is guilty, do you think Nikki knows and is actively trying to hide that? Or is she in denial about it? It sounds like her and Ally had a good relationship so it would be odd for her to suddenly get so cold after the murder.

 

[sorrell skye]

You must have missed the part where Vera withheld information and suspicious observations from LE out of fear that Nikki would find out she was the one who told LE about Franz suspicious behavior during the interviews.
You call this integrity?

Please help me to understand how these two scenarios are able to be possible at the same time.

How is it possible for info to be withheld, while simultaneously someone was afraid of the reaction because they had already forwarded the info?

If the info had been withheld from LE, there would be no reason to fear a reaction for it being shared with LE.

It's quite the conundrum. I hope you can shed light.

 

[FlossyMay]

You must have missed the part where Vera withheld information and suspicious observations from LE out of fear that Nikki would find out she was the one who told LE about Franz suspicious behavior during the interviews.
You call this integrity?

Why would Vera be afraid of Nikki? In your scenario, wouldn't it make more sense for her to be afraid of Franz?

 

[SeesSeas]

You must have missed the part where Vera withheld information and suspicious observations from LE out of fear that Nikki would find out she was the one who told LE about Franz suspicious behavior during the interviews.
You call this integrity?

Please help me to understand how these two scenarios are able to be possible at the same time.

How is it possible for info to be withheld, while simultaneously someone was afraid of the reaction because they had already forwarded the info?

If the info had been withheld from LE, there would be no reason to fear a reaction for it being shared with LE.

It's quite the conundrum. I hope you can shed light.

Here is the post from 2 pages back:

Vera Hogan and I had a falling out after I found out she had information she had never disclosed to LE about Franz and Nikki’s behaviors that seemed suspicious. Vera deliberately withheld this information from LE because she was afraid it would eventually get back to Nikki that she had went to the investigators about Franz’s behavior during multiple interviews.
Vera was afraid of the Public backlash and how it might affect her readership if it came out that she, herself, had suspicions of Nikki and Franz (the poor grieving parents)... so she stayed silent.
Vera eventually went to the LE with the information but I was disgusted that she put her own reputation ahead of getting justice for Alex.

 

[bluesneakers]

Please help me to understand how these two scenarios are able to be possible at the same time.

How is it possible for info to be withheld, while simultaneously someone was afraid of the reaction because they had already forwarded the info?

If the info had been withheld from LE, there would be no reason to fear a reaction for it being shared with LE.

It's quite the conundrum. I hope you can shed light.

And it's not a reporter's job to bring information to law enforcement anyway.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Sorry if this has been answered before as I'm fairly new to this case. If Franz is guilty, do you think Nikki knows and is actively trying to hide that? Or is she in denial about it? It sounds like her and Ally had a good relationship so it would be odd for her to suddenly get so cold after the murder.

I'm not quite following. What do you mean by Nikki getting so cold after the murder?