MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #4

[BayouBelle_LA]

Suppose you have access to an unregistered gun and it just happens to be a shot gun, that's the gun I would choose. A gun that could go missing without ever having to be accounted for.

 

[bears10]

Let's get back to the gun. If you were going to gun someone down premeditated, would you choose a *shotgun* to do so?

If that’s all you had accessible, then yes. Premeditated could be a matter of hours, so it may not have been an option to obtain a different type of gun.

Eta sorry I saw other people posted the same sentiment. I didn’t scroll down far enough

 

[bluesneakers]

Let's get back to the gun. If you were going to gun someone down premeditated, would you choose a *shotgun* to do so?

Depends on what other choices there are.

 

[bluesneakers]

Sorry for answering a question that looks like it's been answered five times. My connection is wonky and not all the posts are loading. Also I'm not getting notifications. Hmm. Going to try logging out and logging in again.

 

[Jennifer17]

Sorry for answering a question that looks like it's been answered five times. My connection is wonky and not all the posts are loading. Also I'm not getting notifications. Hmm. Going to try logging out and logging in again.

Mine is terrible today too. I have logged in and out about five times this morning and sometimes it takes too long to load from google and stays unable to load for half an hour or so.

 

[jackiejack35]

What the use of a shotgun in this crime tells me is that it was the gun available to that person, and it was a person who hunts. Shotguns are the typical type of guns used by hunters for small game like rabbit and turkey(buckshot round) and bigger game like deer(slug).
Not typical of a random predator looking to attack female joggers.

Of course, this is a just my opinion!

 

[gitana1]

How do we know it is narcissistic rage? It could be rage that the killer has not been caught, grief rage or rage he is being wrongly accused or has been lied to or set up by LE. Yes he's mad, but mainly at people he has confided in. MOO.

Eta. What issues did she have with W? Parents said it was amicable.

Listen, his reactions don't come close to approximating the kind of rage I've seen that's associated with grief. It just isn't. That's my experience. There's a difference.

And issues with W? Well they were broken up. And she was on her way to spend time with another man.

We've all seen his anger. I don't think she had issues with him. I think he had issues with her.

By the way, the killer, whoever it is, big, disgusting coward, right?

Do you agree that someone who would chase after a small, frightened woman like that, shooting her in the back, is a cowardly and degenerate, loser?

What is your profile for the type of human being who would do such a thing to a defenseless woman? What do you think of the character of such a person?

Please see my post #81 above.

Pretty much.

Yes, Floyd Galloway is currently serving time for assault of a female jogger in Hines Park (Dearborn). He's a POI in the Stislicki disappearance but has not been charged. I doubt that FG is involved in the Ally Brueger murder.

Floyd Galloway raped the woman he killed. So I agree with you. Ally's murder had no aspects of sexual assault.

On another topic, Wes said Ally was supposed to come to his house the morning she was murdered. I bet he was pretty mad when she didn't. He never claimed she showed up, did he?

We've all seen how mad he gets when he doesn't get his way.

 

[sorrell skye]

My opinion is that the only suspect in this case, who has repeatedly shown his volatile nature on these threads, in all his various permutations, murdered Ally.

For the reasons I've stated, he's the best and only candidate thus far. The killing doesn't have the hallmarks of sexual assault motivated murders of female joggers that we've seen, and the multiple shots don't fit most random spree-type shootings.

LE thinks she knew her attacker and that makes the possibility of this being intimate partner violence much higher.

My opinion on this matter is going to highly agitate Wes. We've seen how he reacts when people don't accept his protestations of innocence.

So I expect more and more insults that will build to imperious demands and threats.

But that is not going to stop me from expressing my opinion and I doubt that's going to stop anyone else from expressing their opinions on here either.

It does make things a bit more interesting on the threads, however.

I agree Gitana - Ally's murder doesn't have any of the signs of a sexually motivated homicide.

I'm thinking that Ally's shoeprints may have been toe-to-toe (or some pattern that may have indicated face-to-face contact) prior to Ally being shot to death.

Ally's shoe toe-prints facing her assailant's shoe toe-prints might be a reason why LE has stated that she knew her murderer.

If Ally had a brief interaction with her murderer, before turning away, those shoe prints might have been captured in plaster by LE.

Remember it rained that morning. Soft ground yields good prints.

 

[sorrell skye]

delete

 

[jackiejack35]

Another thought I just had. I inherited three guns a few years ago. They were given to me by a relative. All legal and none registered.
I sold them eventually.
But my point is that it’s very possible and legal to own guns that are not registered to you or a family member.

 

[Spellbound]

Well, (OT) it seems my like button is not working, and neither is my quote even tho it said it saved it. So .... there are a LOT of excellent posts on these last two pages I would "like" if I could. It is an interesting discussion tonight, so thank you all.

JackieJack, I agree with your post #126. A hunter would likely have easy access to a shotgun, especially a small-game hunter. They possibly would not even own a handgun (though I realize it is becoming more popular for any average-citizen) and may not have a need for a bigger/stronger weapon, depending on what type of hunting they enjoy. A shotgun is most likely what was "handy" here. And people do not generally drive around with a shotgun in their vehicle unless they are going to a shooting range or to hunt, so it is possibile it was deliberately taken to scare or harm someone. If Ally was always the intended target, then we could have a premeditated murder.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I own a 12ga shotgun for home defense and not hunting. It's not well suited for hunting because it has a short 18 1/2" cylinder bore barrel.

I could buy another barrel for hunting if I wanted to. It only takes a minute to change barrels on a Mossberg 500 pump shotgun.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Let's explore the work schedule further because it doesn't make sense to me.

We have WS's account of the work schedule posted in thread 2. bbm

We had originally planned on her coming over after work Saturday morning and us spending the rest of that weekend together because we were both off work for the following 3 days.
But then my schedule got changed and I ended up having to be back at work that Saturday night but she was still off.

So rather than her coming over Saturday morning and then just sitting at my apartment alone Saturday night while I worked, we shifted our plans to have her come over on either Sunday or Monday evening instead.
We made this change Friday night while we were both at work so it was last minute. I’ve thought a lot about how this could have any relation to what happened that Saturday.

For example, Ally was killed down the street from her parents house on a day that she hadn’t originally planned on being at her parents house.
Could this have any relation to what happened? Does this tell us anything? I honestly just don’t know.
Who did Ally tell about our last minute change of plans? Did she tell her parents? We’re they even expecting her to be home that day? Or did they just find out when she showed up at the house that Saturday morning?
Lots of questions without any answers unfortunately.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

A month later he posts a screen shot of a text message exchange with Ally about the work schedule on the Saturday she was killed. Two things - 1. Why is Ally asking him about his work schedule at 4:45 am Saturday when Wes said they discussed his work schedule Friday night? 2. He tells us in the post above that Ally isn't coming over on Saturday because he got scheduled to work on Saturday night. He then says the plan was for her to come over Sunday or Monday. Why? According to the text exchange he's working on Sunday and Monday as well.

None of this makes sense to me and I would wager she had no plans to go back that weekend or ever.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

 

[FlossyMay]

Let's explore the work schedule further because it doesn't make sense to me.

We have WS's account of the work schedule posted in thread 2. bbm

We had originally planned on her coming over after work Saturday morning and us spending the rest of that weekend together because we were both off work for the following 3 days.
But then my schedule got changed and I ended up having to be back at work that Saturday night but she was still off.

So rather than her coming over Saturday morning and then just sitting at my apartment alone Saturday night while I worked, we shifted our plans to have her come over on either Sunday or Monday evening instead.
We made this change Friday night while we were both at work so it was last minute. I’ve thought a lot about how this could have any relation to what happened that Saturday.

For example, Ally was killed down the street from her parents house on a day that she hadn’t originally planned on being at her parents house.
Could this have any relation to what happened? Does this tell us anything? I honestly just don’t know.
Who did Ally tell about our last minute change of plans? Did she tell her parents? We’re they even expecting her to be home that day? Or did they just find out when she showed up at the house that Saturday morning?
Lots of questions without any answers unfortunately.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

A month later he posts a screen shot of a text message exchange with Ally about the work schedule on the Saturday she was killed. Two things - 1. Why is Ally asking him about his work schedule at 4:45 am Saturday when Wes said they discussed his work schedule Friday night? 2. He tells us in the post above that Ally isn't coming over on Saturday because he got scheduled to work on Saturday night. He then says the plan was for her to come over Sunday or Monday. Why? According to the text exchange he's working on Sunday and Monday as well.

None of this makes sense to me and I would wager she had no plans to go back that weekend or ever.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

In the CWD interview, Wes says she was planning on coming over that morning and does not mention any change of plans.

Where were you at the precise time of the shooting?

"I was at home," said Sutherland. "Ally and I had actually worked the night before. And she was planning on coming over that morning."

Who killed Ally Brueger? Michigan nurse gunned down while jogging on rural dirt road

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

In the CWD interview, Wes says she was planning on coming over that morning and does not mention any change of plans.

Well that's interesting. Because now we have three versions.

 

[Spellbound]

Interesting indeed, BayouBelle.

 

[bears10]

The change of plans bc of work schedule narrative doesn’t fit with anything else wes has claimed. They probably never had any plans to hang at all that weekend. Otherwise she wouldn’t have asked him his work schedule in texts - bc according to wes’s most recent narrative, by that time, they would have already discussed work schedules - bc his last minute change in work schedule was supposedly the entire reason their plans were cancelled and ally was at home the day she was murdered.

Edited to finish my comment bc the site keeps crashing for me

 

[Jax49]

Someone refresh my memory. Was Ally murdered just days before she was supposed to leave for Florida?

I'm not sure exactly when the trip was scheduled but her mother made this comment indicating it was to be in August. It could have been with days but definitely within a month of her being killed.

“At the time of her murder, Ally was planning an August 2016 trip to Florida to visit a guy she had casually dated several years ago,” Nikki said. “I have a pile of clothes she purchased for that trip with the tags still attached.”

 

[jackiejack35]

Let's explore the work schedule further because it doesn't make sense to me.

We have WS's account of the work schedule posted in thread 2. bbm

We had originally planned on her coming over after work Saturday morning and us spending the rest of that weekend together because we were both off work for the following 3 days.
But then my schedule got changed and I ended up having to be back at work that Saturday night but she was still off.

So rather than her coming over Saturday morning and then just sitting at my apartment alone Saturday night while I worked, we shifted our plans to have her come over on either Sunday or Monday evening instead.
We made this change Friday night while we were both at work so it was last minute. I’ve thought a lot about how this could have any relation to what happened that Saturday.

For example, Ally was killed down the street from her parents house on a day that she hadn’t originally planned on being at her parents house.
Could this have any relation to what happened? Does this tell us anything? I honestly just don’t know.
Who did Ally tell about our last minute change of plans? Did she tell her parents? We’re they even expecting her to be home that day? Or did they just find out when she showed up at the house that Saturday morning?
Lots of questions without any answers unfortunately.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

A month later he posts a screen shot of a text message exchange with Ally about the work schedule on the Saturday she was killed. Two things - 1. Why is Ally asking him about his work schedule at 4:45 am Saturday when Wes said they discussed his work schedule Friday night? 2. He tells us in the post above that Ally isn't coming over on Saturday because he got scheduled to work on Saturday night. He then says the plan was for her to come over Sunday or Monday. Why? According to the text exchange he's working on Sunday and Monday as well.

None of this makes sense to me and I would wager she had no plans to go back that weekend or ever.

Mi - Alexandra Brueger, 31, Fatally Shot While Jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #2

I’ve tried to go back and read through again but do any of these screenshots actually show her saying she was or wasn’t coming over?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I'm not sure exactly when the trip was scheduled but her mother made this comment indicating it was to be in August. It could have been with days but definitely within a month of her being killed.

Well that certainly aligns with one theory. Sigh...this is just all so very, very sad.