MI - Bianca Jones, 2, Detroit, 2 Dec 2011 - #4 - *D. Lane guilty*

[Cubby]

From the link BDE added in the previous post.

Grime testified Wednesday that Morse detected a cadaver scent inside Lane's car two days after the alleged carjacking. The dog selected the vehicle, which was among 31 others, at a Detroit impound lot.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121004/METRO01/210040398#ixzz28L6D54Kb​

 

[Donjeta]

It would be pretty convincing to me as a juror to know that the dog singled out Lane's car from so many others. Probably there are any number of stinky disgusting things that have been stored in random impounded cars but the dog just happened to find the one car that belongs to a murder suspect.

 

[cocomod]

Defense attorney Terry L. Johnson pointed out during testimony Wednesday in Wayne Circuit Court that the dog's positive detection of human decomposition in this case — signified with repeated barking — is unsubstantiated because it hasn't been linked to a corpse...
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121004/METRO01/210040398#ixzz28KXmMAkP

Respectfully snipped by me.

BBM

Well, I have to disagree with his assertion. Just because a "corpse" has not been found yet does not mean that one did not exist. I hope that the jury understands the very specialized training that these dogs have in detecting. I have learned SO much on WS. I just hope that the jury "gets" it!! lease:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...ecomposition-points-to-murder-of-bianca-jones


Too short of an article for snippets.

Did anyone see the testimony? I don't know if they mean the clothes DL was wearing two days after the alleged car jacking or police had the clothes he claims to have worn the day of the alleged car jacking.

I wouldn't expect DL's clothes to be carrying decomp scent two days later. He would have showered and laundered his clothes.....

Good question... The lack of decomp scent on Lane's clothes seems moot if they are not the clothes that he wore during his beating of Bianca.

and I hardly think Lane would provide to LE the actual clothes he was wearing on that night/morning! :waitasec:

 

[seattlechiquita]

Respectfully snipped by me.

BBM

Well, I have to disagree with his assertion. Just because a "corpse" has not been found yet does not mean that one did not exist. I hope that the jury understands the very specialized training that these dogs have in detecting. I have learned SO much on WS. I just hope that the jury "gets" it!! lease:

I'm with you. However, the memories of 'another' so called "jury" heard muntains of evidence related to decomposition in a car.... and we know how those "jurors" went... :maddening:

I really hope folks in this case have 3 fingers of common sense. I really do.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm with you. However, the memories of 'another' so called "jury" heard muntains of evidence related to decomposition in a car.... and we know how those "jurors" went... :maddening:

I really hope folks in this case have 3 fingers of common sense. I really do.

The infamous "Pinellas Twelve" were clueless They were also tired of being sequestered, away from home, their families, etc. Theirs was not an enviable position, and once they got the case, I think they wanted to get the he!! back to Pinellas County ASAP. :moo:

I was out from 9:00 until about 12:30 today and heard nothing about the D'Andre Lane while I was in the car. Local news reports focused on Joe Gentz' hearing in the Jane Bashara case and the sex scandal involving Detroit Police Chief, Ralph Godbee, who has been suspended.

 

[tlcya]

Good question... The lack of decomp scent on Lane's clothes seems moot if they are not the clothes that he wore during his beating of Bianca.

and I hardly think Lane would provide to LE the actual clothes he was wearing on that night/morning! :waitasec:

But if Lane did take an already deceased Bianca out to the car that morning you would think the clothes he wore at that time would have that poor baby's decomp scent on them - right? So the logical thing to do would be to ask for the clothes he wore the morning of the "carjacking"

If he did provide them, I wonder if they were freshly laundered or from the dirty clothes hamper. That would make a huge difference IMO

 

[Cubby]

We don't know if the clothing tested was the clothing worm when he allegedly carried and discarded a deceased Bianca. What if he changed his clothing during that 35-45 minutes he can not account for the morning she disappeared?

I don't know that there is any way to prove the clothing tested was the clothing worn when the alleged car jacking occured.

 

[Cubby]

Article is so short, it's hard to even pull a snippet. So here is the one I chose:

Bianca's grandmother also took the stand Wednesday. As she stepped down, she leaned over to Lane and whispered "Where is she? Tell me where she is." The defense team then stood up and made her leave

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...wo-year-old-bianca-jones-pillow#ixzz28MdvtEBL​

It's so nice to see family who doesn't buy DL's story standing up for this precious child. Finally! A shame though that is all MSM was willing to write about Bianca's grandmothers testimony. ​

I would have loved, just loved, to see D'Andre's face when asked where Bianca is. To be a fly on the wall......​

 

[Cubby]

Expert testifies blood, saliva found on two-year-old Bianca Jones pillow​

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...wo-year-old-bianca-jones-pillow#ixzz28MesifSe​

Again, the article is too short for additional snippets. The defense explains the blood and saliva as teething. Teething? Maybe to explain the saliva, but not blood. Toddlers do not bleed when teething. A shame MSM didn't indicate how much blood or add more info about the blood found. ​

 

[katydid23]

October 4, 2012 at 1:00 am

Defense targets cadaver dog evidence in missing child case

By Christine Ferretti
The Detroit News

Detroit — Defense attorneys attempted Wednesday to minimize key evidence from a cadaver-detecting dog in the circumstantial murder trial of a Detroit man accused in the death of his missing toddler.

D'Andre Lane is charged with felony murder and child abuse on allegations he fatally beat 2-year-old Bianca Jones because she wet herself, disposed of her body and fabricated a carjacking to cover up the crime. The child's body has not been found.

Lane is facing mandatory life if convicted in the case that relies on circumstantial evidence, including a cadaver dog named Morse, who is handled by forensic canine expert Martin Grime.

Defense attorney Terry L. Johnson pointed out during testimony Wednesday in Wayne Circuit Court that the dog's positive detection of human decomposition in this case — signified with repeated barking — is unsubstantiated because it hasn't been linked to a corpse...

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121004/METRO01/210040398#ixzz28KXmMAkP

I like this excerpt from the article:

Grime testified Wednesday that Morse detected a cadaver scent inside Lane's car two days after the alleged carjacking. The dog selected the vehicle, which was among 31 others, at a Detroit impound lot.

The dog later alerted Grime of alleged human decomposition on Bianca's car seat and blanket as well as the girl's bedroom inside Lane's home.

Grime testified that the dog was accurate in tests prior to the visit to Detroit and after.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121004/METRO01/210040398#ixzz28Miql0ff


I hope it was made clear to the jury that the cadaver dog picked the car out of 3q1 other random cars in the lot because it smelled decomp, and he went right to the car seat.

 

[katydid23]

Tuesday, jurors were shown a video of Lane reenacting events he says unfolded on that day.

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...wo-year-old-bianca-jones-pillow#ixzz28Mk4jsV1

OH LOrd, I would LOVE to see that video.

 

[Cubby]

Article is so short, it's hard to even pull a snippet. So here is the one I chose:

Bianca's grandmother also took the stand Wednesday. As she stepped down, she leaned over to Lane and whispered "Where is she? Tell me where she is." The defense team then stood up and made her leave​

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...wo-year-old-bianca-jones-pillow#ixzz28MdvtEBL​

It's so nice to see family who doesn't buy DL's story standing up for this precious child. Finally! A shame though that is all MSM was willing to write about Bianca's grandmothers testimony. ​

I would have loved, just loved, to see D'Andre's face when asked where Bianca is. To be a fly on the wall......​

Sorry to quote myself. The article has been updated. There is video of Banika's mom asking D'Andre where is she? Even without sound it looks good. There are some additional maternal family members. Anyone care to transcribe? TIA

 

[Donjeta]

Cubby this is not exactly verbatim but the gist of it:

he wouldn't answer me I kept asking him quiestions what's going on where's the baby, where's bianca

bianca's grandmother testifying about trying to talk to DL moments after he says two men carjacked him and drove away with her

he was crying or hysterical for a long time, just huhuhu (makes hyperventilation noises) and i couldn't get nothing out of him

prosecutors believe DL was faking his emotions, the father of 7 is accused of killing B and disposing of her

and when bianca's GM was leaving court she whispered to DL where is she tell me where she is

your honor

defense says he didn't call 911 because he was so distraught that carjackers took his little girl

Jerry Weaver: he kept repeating they got her i was trying to get more information
after a while he didnt say anything
he would just start blubbering for a long time

Carol Nevers who says she's like a mother to DL says he never wanted Bianca to be born
he had given her money 150-200 towards the termination
he didn't have a problem to let everybody in the family to know that i didn't want her i don't have any money to help her I told her not to have bianca

 

[rainydaybaby]

Honestly, their case is better than I thought. Praying for justice for Bianca! Thank you Grandma for standing up for Bianca!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Honestly, their case is better than I thought. Praying for justice for Bianca! Thank you Grandma for standing up for Bianca!

This is why I said earlier that I'm not giving up on the case just yet. Kym Worthy is thorough and would not have sought to try a homicide case without a body if she wasn't 99.9% certain that the case could be won.

There were two other fairly recent cases of missing Detroit children who were later found dead: Mariha Smith and Ziya Turner. No one has ever been charged in either case even though bodies were located. There is simply not enough other evidence or probably cause to prosecute the cases.

I wonder if Terry Johnson planned to call Grandma to testify in Lane's defense?

Justice for Bianca lease:

 

[katydid23]

Cubby this is not exactly verbatim but the gist of it:

he wouldn't answer me I kept asking him quiestions what's going on where's the baby, where's bianca

bianca's grandmother testifying about trying to talk to DL moments after he says two men carjacked him and drove away with her

he was crying or hysterical for a long time, just huhuhu (makes hyperventilation noises) and i couldn't get nothing out of him

prosecutors believe DL was faking his emotions, the father of 7 is accused of killing B and disposing of her

and when bianca's GM was leaving court she whispered to DL where is she tell me where she is

your honor

defense says he didn't call 911 because he was so distraught that carjackers took his little girl

Jerry Weaver: he kept repeating they got her i was trying to get more information
after a while he didnt say anything
he would just start blubbering for a long time

Carol Nevers who says she's like a mother to DL says he never wanted Bianca to be born
he had given her money 150-200 towards the termination
he didn't have a problem to let everybody in the family to know that i didn't want her i don't have any money to help her I told her not to have bianca

Thank You Donjeta :smile:


This sounds so full of baloney:

defense says he didn't call 911 because he was so distraught that carjackers took his little girl

Jerry Weaver: he kept repeating they got her i was trying to get more information
after a while he didnt say anything
he would just start blubbering for a long time...



REALLY? You are so upset that your baby has been kidnapped that you can't call 911 for help? :liar:

 

[rainydaybaby]

Thank You Donjeta :smile:


This sounds so full of baloney:

defense says he didn't call 911 because he was so distraught that carjackers took his little girl

Jerry Weaver: he kept repeating they got her i was trying to get more information
after a while he didnt say anything
he would just start blubbering for a long time...



REALLY? You are so upset that your baby has been kidnapped that you can't call 911 for help? :liar:

Isn't that just ridiculous? Loads of parents have to call 911 daily in the most horrific circumstances imaginable. They get the job done! The ones that are "too distraught" are typically going for an Academy Award. MOO.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Thank You Donjeta :smile:


This sounds so full of baloney:

defense says he didn't call 911 because he was so distraught that carjackers took his little girl

Jerry Weaver: he kept repeating they got her i was trying to get more information
after a while he didnt say anything
he would just start blubbering for a long time...



REALLY? You are so upset that your baby has been kidnapped that you can't call 911 for help? :liar:

OK. We know that the carjacking tale is total fabrication, but what information would D'Andre be trying to get from the (imaginary) perps that was more important than calling 9-1-1 for immediate HELP? :waitasec:

 

[Donjeta]

OK. We know that the carjacking tale is total fabrication, but what information would D'Andre be trying to get from the (imaginary) perps that was more important than calling 9-1-1 for immediate HELP? :waitasec:

No, I think it means that Jerry Weaver ( I assume it's the grandmother's husband?) was trying to get information from Deandre Lane.