MI MI - Julia Niswender, 23, EMU student, Ypsilanti, 10 Dec 2012 - #2

[rosesfromangels]

...The pictures (7 or eight of them) are all of girls under 18...

I wonder how long ago the photos were taken. Is Chelsea Bruck among them???

My very first thought....we shall see.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Arguing bond. Judge considers Turnquist a danger to himself and others. Current bond stays. Preliminary hearing next week.

Done.

 

[Spellbound]

I missed the very beginning. Several family members and work people were at the hearing (I believe one/some were managers?). I believe the older gentleman next to the grandmother is the grandfather. He seemed very upset.

I don't recall hearing this from before..... he was felt to be difficult and threatening when at Pine View for psych. eval, so the Sheriff's office was called to come and get him.

Judge said his actions tell him JT is a danger to self or the community. High bond remains because of possible suicidal and/or homicidal possibility.

Preliminary hearing March 17.

 

[caspermi]

Arguing bond. Current bonds stays. Preliminary hearing next week.

Done.

Some other items from the hearing:
- Forensic exam report of electronics should be completed by next Monday
- 11 devices were seized
- 7 suspect photos out of more than 300,000 images on computer
- Laptop and one thumbdrive examined, 2 thumbdrives and 6 cell phones still need to be examined
- PE on March 17
- Wife made the initial call to police, felt he was a threat to himself or others
- He created a disturbance at the medical facility he was taken to where staff had to call police to remove him

 

[dmc43613]

I don't know what everyone else thinks, but 7 or 8 photos seems very sketchy to me. Wouldn't you think a true pediphile would have evidence of much more?

If there were pictures of girls under 18, and they were truly children wouldn't they say children? Under 18 leads me to believe these could be photos of girls trying to pass as over 18.

I'm still feeling like this charge is just a rouse to get information/details of Julia's demise. It just sort of seems "loose" to me.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

^ The Judge seems to think there's reason to keep Turnquist in custody, or the bond would have been lowered.

 

[dmc43613]

^^I got the impression that it had more to do with him possibly being harmful to himself or the community.

 

[caspermi]

I don't know what everyone else thinks, but 7 or 8 photos seems very sketchy to me. Wouldn't you think a true pediphile would have evidence of much more?

If there were pictures of girls under 18, and they were truly children wouldn't they say children? Under 18 leads me to believe these could be photos of girls trying to pass as over 18.

I'm still feeling like this charge is just a rouse to get information/details of Julia's demise. It just sort of seems "loose" to me.

The prosecutor mentioned they he would allow the defense attorney to view the photos after the hearing.

 

[Spellbound]

I still wonder why the original search warrant was issued at the house. They had to have good reasonto believe there was something suspicious there. His actions afterward and the scare that caused the wife to call (or have someone else call) may have caused his being taken into custody. I keep going back to the mug shot of him wearing what appears to be a protective vest. He has not been too well behaved or cooperative since for a completely innocent person.

JMO

 

[dmc43613]

I agree Spellbound, I think there is definitely something he is hiding, I am just not THAT convinced yet that it is child or pediphile tendencies.

 

[Spellbound]

I don't know what everyone else thinks, but 7 or 8 photos seems very sketchy to me. Wouldn't you think a true pediphile would have evidence of much more?

If there were pictures of girls under 18, and they were truly children wouldn't they say children? Under 18 leads me to believe these could be photos of girls trying to pass as over 18.

I'm still feeling like this charge is just a rouse to get information/details of Julia's demise. It just sort of seems "loose" to me.

From the "grapevine", it seems sexual deviance/trafficking is becoming more alarming in Monroe County. Whether it is increasing or has a connection to another area (Toledo keeps coming up), I have no clue. There may have been no original intent to seek evidence of child , but adding all his actions together has led to his arrest. Could the original intent be seeking info on a sex trafficking angle? Child or adult ? Something to do with Julia's death? A lot of questions remain that we may not get answers to for a long time.


JMO

 

[Spellbound]

I agree Spellbound, I think there is definitely something he is hiding, I am just not THAT convinced yet that it is child or pediphile tendencies.

Agree! Particularly since there seems to be no indication of concern from families whose children were taught karate lessons by him. I believe there is a lot more to come, but where it leads is anyone's guess at this time.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I don't know what everyone else thinks, but 7 or 8 photos seems very sketchy to me. Wouldn't you think a true pediphile would have evidence of much more?

If there were pictures of girls under 18, and they were truly children wouldn't they say children? Under 18 leads me to believe these could be photos of girls trying to pass as over 18.

I'm still feeling like this charge is just a rouse to get information/details of Julia's demise. It just sort of seems "loose" to me.

In order for the "" charge to stick, the Prosecutor will have to present a lot more than a handful of suggestive photos. JT's attorney said as much. I also when he quipped that he didn't know what POI meant (in the Niswender homicide). Yeah, right

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Noon news on Channel 4: http://www.clickondetroit.com/livestream-newscast/live-in-the-d-livestream/23141098

Brief report on the hearing. One thing that I didn't hear - If Turnquist posts bond, he will have to wear an electronic tether and cannot have contact with youngsters under the age of 16. This would mean that he can't return home to his wife and daughter, or she'll have to be removed from the home.

 

[Spellbound]

http://monroenews.com/news/2015/mar/12/judge-rejects-lowering-bond-turnquist/?templates=tablet&police-and-fire=

JT appeared in court today in shackles and stripes.

His attorney viewed the photos, saying they were not "little children" and it is questionable whether they are under 18.

the youngest daughter will remain with the mother. Court feels it is best not to disrupt her life any more than is necessary.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Another thing from this morning's hearing: JT's attorney commented that the courtroom was packed with "supporters" of his client. Prosecutor quickly told the Judge that he didn't believe that everyone there necessarily supported Mr. Turnquist :thinking:

 

[mrsbk]

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/03/12/james-turnquist-hearing/70209480/

If you scroll to the end of the article, there is a picture of J and K today at the hearing reacting to mention of the 911 call in February.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

^ Looks like Jennifer and her mom aren't taking this seriously. What's up with that? Why are they siding with this man who might be involved in Julia's death? :waitasec:

 

[FindHG]

Judge won't lower bond for stepdad of slain EMU student
Katrease Stafford, Detroit Free Press 12:48 pm Mar 12, 15

[...]

"Turnquist was taken to ProMedica Monroe Regional Hospital by Michigan State Police for a psychological exam and, according to Calkins, hospital staff stated they were fearful of Turnquist.:

[...]

"My first priority is my daughter," she said. "This is absolutely absurd. I will not let everyone take away my memories. I will follow my heart."

[...]


Family of slain EMU student divided by suspicions
By Elisha Anderson and Katrease Stafford,
Detroit Free Press / 12:21 am edt / Mar 12, 15

[...]

"I'm saddened that my daughter and granddaughter cannot see the real truth," she said in a text message.

[...]


'Julia is fuming about this,' slain EMU student's mom says at husband's court hearing
by Darcie Moran, Mar 12, 15 at 1:46 pm


Report: Julia Niswender's family remains divided as stepdad to appear in court
Ben Freed, Mar 12, 15 at 8:08 am


Judge rejects lowering bond for Turnquist
By Ray Kisonas, Thurs., Mar 12, 15, 1:10 pm

[...]

"A new hearing date on the matter was set for March 27."



BettyDavisEyes, rosesfromangels, tarabull and Spellbound, thank you so much for all your help with information about Julia's case, and all the WSers, I'm still catching up.

This kind of denial won't ever lift, it looks like to me. Their whole sense of reality and sanity may depend on it, whatever happens to him. Julia was the only one with the strength, smarts, and force of will to get away from it those three years with her grandmother. Can you imagine how brave she was to stand up to him? Can you imagine the strain that put on her relationship with her twin, whose mind he still has a hold on? Can you imagine what life may have been like for her before she could move out, being the one that could see and feel the wrong he was doing, and stand up to her own mom too?
As his capacity to hide who he is diminishes, Julia Niswender's full true spirit and character may reveal itself.

 

[Spellbound]

article with photos and Video of KN (mom) speaking after today's hearing.
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/03/julia_niswenders_stepfather.html

In the DHS hearing immediately following the criminal proceedings, Judge Cheryl Lohmeyer chose to let the youngest daughter continue to remain with her mother as the Department of Human Services continues to investigate the safety of the child.


A pretrial in the matter has been set for March 27.