GUILTY MI - Ramsay Scrivo, 32, found dismembered, St Clair County, 27 Jan 2014 - #1

[Jersey*Girl]

http://www.medcentral.org/main/SpinalInfusionPump.aspx

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What is a spinal infusion pump implant?
A spinal infusion pump implant, commonly known as a morphine pump, is a specialized device, which delivers concentrated amounts of medication into the spinal fluid space via a small catheter. The intrathecal space is the sac that contains the spinal fluid. The spinal infusion pump is also known as an intrathecal infusion pump.

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How long will the spinal infusion pump last?
The medication contained within the pump will last about 1 to 3 months depending upon the concentration and amount infused. It is then refilled via a tiny needle inserted into the pump chamber. This is done in the office or at your home and it takes only a few minutes. The batteries in the pump may last 3 to 5 years depending upon the usage. The batteries cannot be replaced or recharged. The pump must be replaced at that time.

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What if I am allergic or cannot tolerate morphine?
Morphine is the only FDA approved pain medication that is officially recommended for a spinal infusion pump. Patients with side effects from morphine may opt to try other pain medications including Fentanyl, Dilaudid and Sufentanil. Also, certain other medications can sometimes be added to the narcotic pain medication to increase its effectiveness or to decrease the overall amount of narcotic pain medication that is needed.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I agree with AstroKitty - this woman seems full of it.

Chops.

Somebody.

Up.

That has to take time to do. Didn't she once even stop to think about what she was doing was just plain wrong? Ewww...

 

[FiveFelines]

I suffer from severe Social Anxiety Disorder/Agoraphobia and Panic attacks...So I understand anxiety quite well, sadly. A Panic attack makes you want to curl up in a ball in your room and be alone, and it literally feels like your heart is about to explode, and I hyperventilate a lot.

I also suffer from panic attacks and anxiety. My mother has major anxiety issues and has threatened to kill herself on several occasions. She has never been violent, though. As you say, it is incredibly scary and stressful, but the last thing you'd probably want to do is harm someone else.

RS may have been hospitalized for his threats of suicide, but I don't see anything about him threatening violence to his mother or others. I feel like he's being demonized a bit by MSM, when in fact his mental health issues are pretty common, especially after the death of a parent.

 

[Cherry]

Morphine patches

As well as a pump and IV push.

 

[Elley Mae]

IDk She kills her son and chops him up to keep him from killing himself. OK got it.

 

[Cherry]

It's interesting she was fired for medication errors. Or it is to me, anyhow. Probably because I'm English and we had the pleasure of Dr Harold Shipman aka Dr Death here. Caught because he started helping himself to patients' money as well as 'helping' them to their death. Morphine was his drug of choice. He was so calculating he even timed his suicide in jail exactly, so his wife would gain the maximum pension benefits.

So her husband, was he cremated? And can he be exhumed to see if she overdosed him? I really am suspecting her, and wonder what the amt of life insurance was that she had with her husband and if she had a policy on her son.

I don't think this was a suicide at all.

 

[SieSie]

I was thinking along these lines last night, but the other way around. What if Mom wanted him to move in with her and he refused. Maybe she started the fire to be forced to live with him. If she was "controlling" like we've heard that could fit......but then she got rid of him for some reason I just can't figure out.

Actually, your way makes more sense!!

 

[walkingdeadgirl]

I agree with AstroKitty - this woman seems full of it.

Chops.

Somebody.

Up.

That has to take time to do. Didn't she once even stop to think about what she was doing was just plain wrong? Ewww...

I agree as well. whatever her "reasoning"...she couldn't move his body by herself, whatever...she chopped up her son into pieces. that is drastic, sadistic, vicious, and horrible. I think she just didn't want to take care of him any longer.

Maybe she is hoping to get off by saying she feared for her life because of his psychosis, or that he attacked her, but chopping him up and throwing him out like trash goes way beyond that.

 

[Akweks]

Odd ain't it? He's not even buried yet and she's trying to get guardianship? I understand getting someone help so they don't harm themselves, but what's the rush with guardianship?

http://www.macombdaily.com/general-...oman-was-distraught-over-sons-mental-problems

I wonder if Dad was the glue that held everyone's behaviors in check (so to speak). Or, if you'd rather, protected the son from the mother's behavior. Just a thought.

 

[janx]

I wonder if Dad was the glue that held everyone's behaviors in check (so to speak). Or, if you'd rather, protected the son from the mother's behavior. Just a thought.

I wondered the same thing. And just about all of the information about Ramsay seems to come--ultimately--from his mom.

 

[nursebeeme]

“These charges are not the end of the case. We are working diligently on a murder investigation,” St. Clair Shores Interim Police Chief Todd Woodcox said, adding that Donna Scrivo is charged with offenses authorities can prove. “We plan to bring more charges later. We charged what we could.”

Authorities said Monday they were not certain whether Donna Scrivo, a registered nurse, killed her son, saying they have a lot more work in the death of the St. Clair Shores man.

But a few details surfaced during Donna Scrivo’s arraignment today. According to police, she filed a missing persons report on her son Jan. 27, claiming he left his home in the 23000 block of Gary Lane, where she was also living while her fire-damaged home was being repaired. They said blood evidence and bleach stains were found in his home, and that Donna Scrivo was seen carrying black garbage bags before her son’s remains were found.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140204/NEWS04/302030115/Dismemberment-St-Clair-Scrivo

something much deeper is going on here

 

[nursebeeme]

So her husband, was he cremated? And can he be exhumed to see if she overdosed him? I really am suspecting her, and wonder what the amt of life insurance was that she had with her husband and if she had a policy on her son.

I don't think this was a suicide at all.

if she had such concern for him in the past in allegedly getting him committed why did she chop off his head and his other parts (some of the things found were also charred) and dump him along I 94 in bags and then go smiling into a gas station?

I mean really????!

I also hope she didn't try to MAKE it look like a suicide r/t her past firing and the missing morphine, etc etc etc.

 

[nursebeeme]

oh and don't forget the bleach.

 

[nursebeeme]

oh and don't forget the bleach.

 

[nursebeeme]

I was just thinking what drugs could be used to mimic anxiety and psychosis? re: thinking along the lines of mbp here. I am very glad to see that tox screen is being done and I hope they don't just check for the normal list of substances in this case

 

[Zuri]

What I can't get past is the condition and disposal of the body. If RS had committed suicide, you call 911. Presuming she chopped him into pieces, who does that? And who puts them in black bags and litters the highway? I see no rational thought in these actions. Regardless of RS mental health history, it is hers that should be closely examined. JMV

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK64178/

substance induced disorders above and both anxiety and psychosis are possible.

 

[AstroKitty]

Wait a big second. She was fired for mishandling meds? Do you guys know how often or how BAD of a mishandling you have to do to get fired, not just suspended?

From what I know she worked at a transitional living facility (nursing home) and anyone I've ever heard of being fired from such a place for mishandling meds - was actually writing down that they gave the meds to the patient but were actually stealing them and selling them. They only get busted because the patients end up being in a ton of pain which doesn't correspond with their dosage and meds, and a nurse is then watched and drug tested.

Typically when a nurse is busted this way, the facility tries to handle it on the down low so that the state doesn't get involved. Mishandling meds is a HUUUUUGGEEE deal. I won't bore you all with the laws, medicaid or any of that - just know that by mishandling she caused harm and it could have resulted into a fatality.

Was she stealing morphine from terminal patients and that's why it was in the home? So many questions. I swear yesterday I said to a co-worker "She looks like SHES the one taking morphine.. look how gaunt she looks in the face!".

So was Donna the angel of death?

 

[nursebeeme]

Wait a big second. She was fired for mishandling meds? Do you guys know how often or how BAD of a mishandling you have to do to get fired, not just suspended?

From what I know she worked at a transitional living facility (nursing home) and anyone I've ever heard of being fired from such a place for mishandling meds - was actually writing down that they gave the meds to the patient but were actually stealing them and selling them. They only get busted because the patients end up being in a ton of pain which doesn't correspond with their dosage and meds, and a nurse is then watched and drug tested.

Typically when a nurse is busted this way, the facility tries to handle it on the down low so that the state doesn't get involved. Mishandling meds is a HUUUUUGGEEE deal. I won't bore you all with the laws, medicaid or any of that - just know that by mishandling she caused harm and it could have resulted into a fatality.

Was she stealing morphine from terminal patients and that's why it was in the home? So many questions. I swear yesterday I said to a co-worker "She looks like SHES the one taking morphine.. look how gaunt she looks in the face!".

So was Donna the angel of death?

good question.. and it looks like it was not really determined what exactly was going on here. He also had a GAL

“She looked like a very concerned mother who’s husband has just died and her son is threatening suicide,” he said. “On the surface, it appears she’s acting in his best interest.”

Scrivo is a registered nurse. Court records say she worked part-time at St. John Hospital and Medical Center in Detroit from 1989 to 2004, when she was fired. She was allowed to collect unemployment after a three-person panel of the state Employed Security Board of Review said claims against her regarding two medication errors were not proven.

Scrivo also went to the same court last May to have her son hospitalized. He was given a 90-day treatment plan, including admission to St. John for up to 60 days, although the typical stay is about two weeks, Marlinga stated. A second mental commitment request in September was dismissed because psychiatrists allowed his discharge from a second hospitalization because he no longer met the criteria as danger to himself or others.

Ramsey Scrivo, 32, for most of his life suffered from anxiety issues, which escalated since his father got sick, according Scrivo, her other son, Jason, and a report by guardian ad litem Sheila Miller.

http://www.macombdaily.com/general-...oman-was-distraught-over-sons-mental-problems


and this:

His anxiety affected his ability to support himself and his relationships, Miller says. Donna Scrivo told Miller Scrivo “frightened a friend of the family by making threats as a result of his belief that she poisoned him”

http://www.macombdaily.com/general-...oman-was-distraught-over-sons-mental-problems

 

[nursebeeme]

^ he told someone he was afraid she poisoned him ^!