GUILTY MI - Ramsay Scrivo, 32, found dismembered, St Clair County, 27 Jan 2014 - #1

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #421
I find it VERY odd that someone wants guardianship over another because said person was suicidal. That's strange to me. Guardianship = in charge of funds, bills and living rights. He could be taken in and held up to 5 business days if he was suicidal. Something doesn't add up.

I'm also confused about the mongoloid comment he made as well as Mexico. But I often read statuses like that as "Oh someone took their ambien early and got online".
 
  • #422
Concerning the first reports that he was black, does anyone know if discoloration occurs to the skin of your face if you hang yourself?
 
  • #423
  • #424
I find it VERY odd that someone wants guardianship over another because said person was suicidal. That's strange to me. Guardianship = in charge of funds, bills and living rights. He could be taken in and held up to 5 business days if he was suicidal. Something doesn't add up.

I'm also confused about the mongoloid comment he made as well as Mexico. But I often read statuses like that as "Oh someone took their ambien early and got online".

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

Ambien early... I have witnessed the results of that!
 
  • #425
Holy cow. Holy cow. Holy cow.
 
  • #426
Concerning the first reports that he was black, does anyone know if discoloration occurs to the skin of your face if you hang yourself?

Only if you're upside down. the blood settles with gravity (lividity)
 
  • #427
.."being treated as a SUSPICIOUS Death" ('being a little bit guarded at this time')" "Dismemebered body... not a natural death"
 
  • #428
Press Conference Re: Donna Scrivo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGx2ELJNH_M

murder investigation is ongoing

Thanks so much for posting this! Here's my attempt at a summary for those unable to watch:

- Will the booking photo be available today? Will check w/support service staff, don't see why not.

- DS taken into custody on 31/Jan, executed 2 search warrants re:suspected homicide and dismemberment

- Prelim. exam set for 14/Feb @ 0830, charges brought are not the end of the case, working diligently on ongoing murder investigation

- Autopsy is not complete, still awaiting test results

- Why is there no murder charge? Still an investigation at this time, 72h clock once defendant was brought in for an arraignment, had to file charges on what they could prove, plan to bring more charges later once they could prove

- Involvement of any others? Won't speculate

- Have all the body parts been found? Ongoing investigation, waiting on toxicology and more reports, won't comment on any specifics

- Can COD be established? Can't comment, ME's call, ME has not established at this time pending additional tests

- Can time of death be determined? Not as of yet (although one of the men started to say "approximately..." and was cut off by the other with that answer)

- Blood evidence in the Blazer? Won't go into a lot of details, being analyzed by state crime lab

- DS's past criminal history? Retail fraud, not relevant to this case

- Did DS "lawyer up" and not speak? Is she cooperating? Can't go into details on interview

- Relationship between mother and son? Never assault history between two parties, but has been police contact re:loud noise, disorderly complaints at Gary lane house - won't discuss who filed reports

- Re: guardianship? Son was functioning at residence on Gary Lane, he was cognitively intact enough to take care of himself and have a business, no indication of current guardianship, mother moved in due to renovations at her house; not at liberty to discuss court documents re:guardianship in 2013

- Is father's death in May a factor? Had negative impact on family

- Motive established? Not able to comment at this time

- Mother's background? Was a nurse at some point in time, TBD whether she was currently practicing as a nurse

- Appearance of son's home? Bleach in home? Visually appeared normal, cannot comment further

- Missing person's report - were police suspicious of claims? Won't comment

- How many bags were found? Won't refer to them as bags, will call them crime scenes. No changes from Friday AM - 3 scenes in St Clair Township, 1 scene in China Township, 1 scene on I-94 ramp -- won't specify number of bags

- Have a lot of work to do to put things together, appreciate patience re:detailed evidence, will provide once they are in a position to do so and prosecutor's office ok's it

- Anticipate additional charges this week? No timeline, awaiting a lot of tests and additional investigative work

- Was RS suicidal? Not commenting, treating as suspicious death, would not specify whether treating as a homicide, being guarded at this time, "suspicious death" is not a downgrade, not a natural death

- Any reason to believe DS had psychiatric issues? Standard procedure for psych eval due to nature of crime, standard procedure to do drug/alcohol tests also

- Any poisoning, trauma, etc. before dismemberment? ME not confident making a determination until tests return, won't comment on whether there were bullet wounds or other trauma

- Can you speak as to the dumping being done so publicly? Asking for conjecture they can't provide

- Believe that DS killed her son? Not comfortable making that call with current evidence

- Where is DS being held? - Macomb County jail, was moved after arraignment, St Clair county doesn't have the same facilities for females

- Charges in Macomb County, will there be charges in St Clair county? Ongoing investigation

- Is DS on suicide watch? Must ask Macomb County
 
  • #429
  • #430
  • #431
I am a huge wimp. Are there photos at the link or just text?

There are some gruesome pics in the banner of that site. The remainder is text.
 
  • #432
  • #433
Not trying to be funny but I either buy chicken breasts or a whole chicken. Not my cup of tea cutting up a chicken. jmo
I can SO relate. The first, and last, time I tried to cut up a whole chicken 30 years ago, I had an awful anxiety attack. I buy only organic, free range chicken breasts these days. And just recently my sister told me that she has the same problem- I had no idea. I can understand shooting, and killing, someone in the heat of passion. But actually cutting a body into pieces and driving around with the remains, absolutely sickens me. What kind of human being can do that?
 
  • #434
There are some gruesome pics in the banner of that site. The remainder is text.

Ooops, my adblock had squished those... :blushing:
 
  • #435
So there's no prior police contact regarding her being abused/attacked by Ramsay. The prior LE involvement was for loud noise and "disorderly conduct". Ramsay was also doing well, the guardianship wasn't in place. I encourage everyone watch the press conference. It clears a lot up. Skip to 4:10 because prior to that it's just people waiting for the conference to start.

There were 5 crime scenes. And a lot of "we are not going to comment on that"
 
  • #436
This is the pertinent bit of text:

he face is usually pale, due to cerebral ischemia or vagal inhibition, but is sometimes congested and swollen (swelling often disappears when the body is cut down), f the veins were constricted before the arteries. Occasionally, the congestion drains away from the head, inspite of the ligature being still in position. This probably occurs through the vertebral venous plexus, which is not easily compressed as the jugular veins. The brain is often drained of blood in this way. The petechial haemorrhages in the skin and conjunctivae remain, as they are extravascular. The signs of asphyxia are most marked in cases in which the noose as placed high up on the throat. Obstruction of the jugular veins, while the arteries remain patent, leads to severe engorgement of the head and neck.
 
  • #437
So is she claiming he committed suicide?? And she isn't even being charged with murder as of yet?
 
  • #438
So is she claiming he committed suicide?? And she isn't even being charged with murder as of yet?

I'm not sure but I'm guessing either "self defense" or "suicide" is her claim(s). They are waiting on tox results before they release their findings.
 
  • #439
  • #440
displayimageblob


http://itasw0aep002.macombcountymi.gov/jil/faces/InmateSearch.jsp
If the link above timed out, you can search here under "inmate locator" http://www.macombsheriff.com/

A reporter asked at the press conference if she was on suicide watch.
She is wearing an anti suicide gown in her mug shot, so that should answer their question.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
94
Guests online
1,867
Total visitors
1,961

Forum statistics

Threads
632,351
Messages
18,625,106
Members
243,099
Latest member
Snoopy7
Back
Top