Michelle Young. Murdered Pregnant Mom, NC Part 13

[pack_fan]

Alright, here goes. Some of this could be factual, maybe, most is pure crap but it's my story and I'm sticking too it. Also noted that I am taking into consideration things that i have heard that have yet to be reported, so here goes.

MY was in therapy, I could not verify this information but heard it within a week of the murder. Source seems good so I will also say that she had told her family and JY that she was leaving him (maybe this will come out later). Makes a lot of sense now why the Fishers immediately pointed the finger at JY, huh? I will also go out on a limb here, jmo of course, that if LF could get her hands on Cassidy, I would bet that she would do anything to keep her away from JY since she seems convinced that JY is the perp.

I had previously beleived that JY did have a business meeting but am seriously doubting this now. I can't verify that people were coming to stay with the Youngs but I would tend to beleive that this poster is credible for several reasons. First of all, they were big fans and had lifetime rights. These are neither cheap or even all that easy to get. They had lots of friends and had a specific spot that they met before games. At times, there could have been 50 or more people tailgating together and this was in fact homecoming weekend, big game. Secondly, don't know this first hand but I do beleive they had guests often. Several of their friends from out of town would stay when they came in town. I beleive that it will come out that it was not a meeting but he will try to say he was cold calling on customers. For some reason I am doubting that the insurance was the reason for the murder. I now beleive that he was tired of being married and MY had the nerve to leave HIM. The trip to the parents seems illogical if they had people coming to visit and it seems by the tone of sosad, it was friends of his. His friends called them to let them know the news.

So, I'm thinking that he may have considered it before but not acted on it. With people coming, doesn't seem logical that he would invite friends to come and stay if he had planned this way in advance. I think the marriage was in shambles, and it wore on him. Don't know when the therapy started but it said soon before the murder. I suspect that she had told him in the last week that it was coming to an end. The business meeting was just an excuse imo and bet that it will end up being false. I do think he called his parents a couple of days in advance, started thinking about an alibi and figured a business meeting with a hotel stay just over the va line and a trip to brevard should be enough to cover for him.

IMO, when you are trying to cya, you WILL make a mistake. Seems as some of those mistakes and discrepencies are starting to show.

 

[raisincharlie]

Alright, here goes. Some of this could be factual, maybe, most is pure crap but it's my story and I'm sticking too it. Also noted that I am taking into consideration things that i have heard that have yet to be reported, so here goes.

MY was in therapy, I could not verify this information but heard it within a week of the murder. Source seems good so I will also say that she had told her family and JY that she was leaving him (maybe this will come out later). Makes a lot of sense now why the Fishers immediately pointed the finger at JY, huh? I will also go out on a limb here, jmo of course, that if LF could get her hands on Cassidy, I would bet that she would do anything to keep her away from JY since she seems convinced that JY is the perp.

I had previously beleived that JY did have a business meeting but am seriously doubting this now. I can't verify that people were coming to stay with the Youngs but I would tend to beleive that this poster is credible for several reasons. First of all, they were big fans and had lifetime rights. These are neither cheap or even all that easy to get. They had lots of friends and had a specific spot that they met before games. At times, there could have been 50 or more people tailgating together and this was in fact homecoming weekend, big game. Secondly, don't know this first hand but I do beleive they had guests often. Several of their friends from out of town would stay when they came in town. I beleive that it will come out that it was not a meeting but he will try to say he was cold calling on customers. For some reason I am doubting that the insurance was the reason for the murder. I now beleive that he was tired of being married and MY had the nerve to leave HIM. The trip to the parents seems illogical if they had people coming to visit and it seems by the tone of sosad, it was friends of his. His friends called them to let them know the news.

So, I'm thinking that he may have considered it before but not acted on it. With people coming, doesn't seem logical that he would invite friends to come and stay if he had planned this way in advance. I think the marriage was in shambles, and it wore on him. Don't know when the therapy started but it said soon before the murder. I suspect that she had told him in the last week that it was coming to an end. The business meeting was just an excuse imo and bet that it will end up being false. I do think he called his parents a couple of days in advance, started thinking about an alibi and figured a business meeting with a hotel stay just over the va line and a trip to brevard should be enough to cover for him.

IMO, when you are trying to cya, you WILL make a mistake. Seems as some of those mistakes and discrepencies are starting to show.

pack_fan,

Hope you are doing good !

My first reaction upon hearing today's news was Michelle has a voice and it will speak partially through this therapist but also through family and friends. I think Michelle did indeed confide in friends/family and most likely tried everything she could think of to try to save the marriage rather than just let it go. But I believe she reached her breaking point. I do believe she told JY it was done and there may have been several reasons.

I go back to the accident in May - many insiders claim JY thought the back door of the SUV popped open and turned around to look thus going off the road. I do not believe this tale - there are rear view mirrors in SUVs. Personally I believe this incident instigated a whole series of events as I think JY was messing around while driving and this stupidity ended in both the wreck and the loss of a baby which greatly affected Michelle at a very deep level. JMO - but this was the starting point for the snowball to he11.

With what has come out lately, the CA trip, the job change, the supposed 3 month relationship all pretty much point to a marriage in dire straights and a fellow more concerned about himself than his family. Without going into all my reasons for thinking this, I believe Michelle told him she wanted a divorce, she wanted an end. I do believe he knew this for a while. Here is were I think the whole problem lies - JY and MY argued over this but the big issue was in reality Cassidy - there is a reason that baby was left alive and there is a reason JY had to get someone over there to find her.

I believe at some point Michelle just absolutely could not take anymore of him and the issue of Cassidy was thrown at JY in anger - I know that sounds bad and I mean no disrespect to Michelle by saying this. I believe an argument over Cassidy is what set JY off - by law the only way he would have Cassidy is to prove Michelle was a bad mother (given what we know of her - probably no where near provable) or he had to eliminate Michelle. For some reason I just don't get the feeling that JY spent significant time planning how to do this but I also believe at some point before Michelle died he did make up his mind she would be eliminated.

I do not believe there was a "scheduled" meeting, maybe a drop by just to check in but not a true meeting, nor do I believe the trip to Brevard was planned several days in advance. I do think JY left Raleigh before Michelle came home on Thursday - I do not believe he could face either her or Cassidy. It bothers me a great deal that there is no mention of Michelle's wedding rings in the AR - I know the ladies here have given good reasons why she may have not had them on but I think that reason had nothing to do with being pregnant. For some reason I do not believe Michelle was unaware of JYs affairs, and I use plural because I do believe there were others, maybe one night stands or along those lines. I believe his pursuit of MM was targeted and laced with spite - JMO as I believe he used her just as he used Meredith. I have great sympathy for both of those young ladies and hope that each can find peace soon.

So on many levels we agree - but I see JYs motive as much deeper than an insurance policy or freedom. I believe there was a call that evening and I do believe he took Michelle very seriously during that phone call - the rest is incredibly sickening and sad. JMO

ETA - I think we will hear the wedding photos were collected from the home for reasons other than identifying people.

 

[scandi]

Two brilliant posts PackFan and Charlie. Thanks to both of you. My, we have some movers and shakers on this forum!

So you think he called her after having left with luggage, knowing it was all over between them. Maybe an I love you and can't live withough you and Cassidy, and in no uncertain terms she let him know that she would fight the fight in the divorce to where he would not even have visitation rights with Cassidy. I'm sure she had enough proof for that with his lifestyle and antics, and he knew it.

Then it is like you said Charlie, he knew he could never prove Michelle was a bad mother and he wasn't going to live his life without Cassidy, so he had to kill her.

Crazy isn't it. He didn't think it through. It wasn't that well planned, murder 1 would pull life without parole and she would be out of his life anyway. The only way to win would be to walk out of their lives with his tail between his legs, and his ego of being burned by her wouldn't let him do that.


PS: I still think Michelle learned about JY and MM after he had left that Thursday afternoon in a phone conversation she had with MM. So when he called her late at night, she was beside herself with anger, and JY knew the writing was on the wall.

Really sad. It makes me so sad to realize how this probably went down. Thinking of Cassidy, who I think still remembers what she saw and yet just loves her Daddy. She's Daddy's girl. I think she always was.


ETA: You think he busted up the wedding photos Charlie by throwing them across the room before he attacked her, which might have been a big clue to LE it was not a random murder?

 

[strach304]

In the news report it states that LE requested the court order for the therapist records as having info pertinent to the case and they could not get that info any other way. (my wording rc) I tend to think it's verification for what we know LE has been looking at all along anyway difference being it proves she confided in someone professional and not hearsay. Didn't that come up at Laci's trial? I wouldn't want therapy for my spouse cheating but throw in that it's with someone near and dear to me and it's a whole new issue. Catalyst that started a serious fight that may have thrown both into a rage that night and put Michelle in the frame of mind like RC stated could be she found out MM was pregnant and it might be Jason's. We know she is but not how far. MM may have even opted for an abortion if so after MY's killing. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

RC, I was posting on the ctv board the other night trying to get a straight answer about the couple coming to stay with them that weekend to try and figure out if that trip to his mothers was as we speculated a last minute excuse to be way from the scene of the crime. Looks like we had it all figured out right from the start. There was no emergency or special event in Brevard imo that sent him there instead of home. That couple and the plans prove that he was supposed to return home imo. I said his parents would hide behind his lawyer and not give LE that info and I still believe that. They found out anyway.

 

[jilly]

Thank you pacfan, rc. Very very interesting.

Scandi - I like that about randon/wedding pictures.

I'm not so sure how it all went down yet. The friends of jy's were travelling on the Friday. I'm just wondering if the youngs' were planning on making face so to speak until this weekend was over. Then maybe jy thought the fact that the friends were coming too would make it even more convincing that he would not murder Michelle?

Whatever, imo jy planned this.

 

[raisincharlie]

Scandi,


I could be way off base about those wedding photos but from the begining something keep igging me about them and it wasn't for identification of other persons. I cannot exactly make up my mind about who did what to them if something was indeed done. I think there is a possibility that JY himself could have done something with them before he left but I also think it is equally possible MY could have thrown them at some point. I just don't know but I do think there was something about those photos that contributed to LE's thought processes at the scene. Just a feeling I have had for a long time that cannot be explained.

PS - I'm not sure JY called Michelle that evening - it may have been the other way around and it may have been much earlier than 11 pm, like before the GA friend arrived if Jason left before Michelle got home.

 

[Jess]

What IF Michelle had cut Jason out of the pictures ! ?

 

[pack_fan]

Scandi,


I could be way off base about those wedding photos but from the begining something keep igging me about them and it wasn't for identification of other persons. I cannot exactly make up my mind about who did what to them if something was indeed done. I think there is a possibility that JY himself could have done something with them before he left but I also think it is equally possible MY could have thrown them at some point. I just don't know but I do think there was something about those photos that contributed to LE's thought processes at the scene. Just a feeling I have had for a long time that cannot be explained.

ITA that they were not taken for identification purposes. I think they were used as a weapon at some point and time and possibly contain some sort of dna evidence. I don't see LE taking them just because they were broken. A simple picture could have done that for them. Also, if it was just blood splatter, they could have just taken samples of the blood and moved on. I think there is some sort of evidence contained on those photos. Either prints from the perp if he grabbed it, or possible dna if Michelle tried to grab it and fight back. It would have been something that would have been close by and LE indicated early on that they suspected that the perp may have been injured.

There's my 2 cents, spend them wisely....

 

[pack_fan]

What IF Michelle had cut Jason out of the pictures ! ?

Had not thought of that, but that would make sense too, Jess.

Quit coming up with good ideas, you are just confusing me .

 

[pack_fan]

pack_fan,

Hope you are doing good !

My first reaction upon hearing today's news was Michelle has a voice and it will speak partially through this therapist but also through family and friends. I think Michelle did indeed confide in friends/family and most likely tried everything she could think of to try to save the marriage rather than just let it go. But I believe she reached her breaking point. I do believe she told JY it was done and there may have been several reasons.

I go back to the accident in May - many insiders claim JY thought the back door of the SUV popped open and turned around to look thus going off the road. I do not believe this tale - there are rear view mirrors in SUVs. Personally I believe this incident instigated a whole series of events as I think JY was messing around while driving and this stupidity ended in both the wreck and the loss of a baby which greatly affected Michelle at a very deep level. JMO - but this was the starting point for the snowball to he11.

With what has come out lately, the CA trip, the job change, the supposed 3 month relationship all pretty much point to a marriage in dire straights and a fellow more concerned about himself than his family. Without going into all my reasons for thinking this, I believe Michelle told him she wanted a divorce, she wanted an end. I do believe he knew this for a while. Here is were I think the whole problem lies - JY and MY argued over this but the big issue was in reality Cassidy - there is a reason that baby was left alive and there is a reason JY had to get someone over there to find her.

I believe at some point Michelle just absolutely could not take anymore of him and the issue of Cassidy was thrown at JY in anger - I know that sounds bad and I mean no disrespect to Michelle by saying this. I believe an argument over Cassidy is what set JY off - by law the only way he would have Cassidy is to prove Michelle was a bad mother (given what we know of her - probably no where near provable) or he had to eliminate Michelle. For some reason I just don't get the feeling that JY spent significant time planning how to do this but I also believe at some point before Michelle died he did make up his mind she would be eliminated.

I do not believe there was a "scheduled" meeting, maybe a drop by just to check in but not a true meeting, nor do I believe the trip to Brevard was planned several days in advance. I do think JY left Raleigh before Michelle came home on Thursday - I do not believe he could face either her or Cassidy. It bothers me a great deal that there is no mention of Michelle's wedding rings in the AR - I know the ladies here have given good reasons why she may have not had them on but I think that reason had nothing to do with being pregnant. For some reason I do not believe Michelle was unaware of JYs affairs, and I use plural because I do believe there were others, maybe one night stands or along those lines. I believe his pursuit of MM was targeted and laced with spite - JMO as I believe he used her just as he used Meredith. I have great sympathy for both of those young ladies and hope that each can find peace soon.

So on many levels we agree - but I see JYs motive as much deeper than an insurance policy or freedom. I believe there was a call that evening and I do believe he took Michelle very seriously during that phone call - the rest is incredibly sickening and sad. JMO

ETA - I think we will hear the wedding photos were collected from the home for reasons other than identifying people.

You said it so much better than I could have.

As you can clearly see, I wasn't an English major, nor did I do particularly well at it.

 

[raisincharlie]

In the news report it states that LE requested the court order for the therapist records as having info pertinent to the case and they could not get that info any other way. (my wording rc) I tend to think it's verification for what we know LE has been looking at all along anyway difference being it proves she confided in someone professional and not hearsay. Didn't that come up at Laci's trial? I wouldn't want therapy for my spouse cheating but throw in that it's with someone near and dear to me and it's a whole new issue. Catalyst that started a serious fight that may have thrown both into a rage that night and put Michelle in the frame of mind like RC stated could be she found out MM was pregnant and it might be Jason's. We know she is but not how far. MM may have even opted for an abortion if so after MY's killing. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

RC, I was posting on the ctv board the other night trying to get a straight answer about the couple coming to stay with them that weekend to try and figure out if that trip to his mothers was as we speculated a last minute excuse to be way from the scene of the crime. Looks like we had it all figured out right from the start. There was no emergency or special event in Brevard imo that sent him there instead of home. That couple and the plans prove that he was supposed to return home imo. I said his parents would hide behind his lawyer and not give LE that info and I still believe that. They found out anyway.

Strach,

I tend to think that Michelle did somehow find out about MM, but I just don't know about this pregnancy thing. No thoughts on it really as I tend to see it as outside the "box" of this case - don't know why I think that, just do. What I project is a young woman who really wanted family and lost a baby sometime in June - the emotions of that have to be overwhelming. Then quickly gets pregnant again so another layer of emotions is added on top of that. Then the husband decides to foot the bill for himself and three others, maybe more, for a vacation from one side of the country to the other against the best wishes of the young woman - another layer.

Then the husband takes another job which allows him great distance and travel away from home when his wife needs his emotional support, he starts some kind of relationship with a woman who is conveniently in another state (this makes zero sense to me in terms of calling it a serious relationship by either party). I don't know, but I see a lot of things being thrown at Michelle very quickly and while I am not a big fan of therapy - I can see how she might have needed help at some point to deal with all of it, especially if she felt JY was going outside the marriage.

As you know - I never saw the trip to Brevard as a matter of convenience but rather necessity. I think it was either arranged Thursday evening or Friday morning. I also don't believe there was a conventional meeting scheduled - maybe drop bys to visit but not really meetings. Not sure it was part of a murder plan as much as a need to be away from Michelle until the company arrived. Returning home on Saturday for the big game and with company already at the house - JY could minimize any potential contact and/or confrontation with Michelle. See where I'm going, I'm still not sure he concocted some big plan over time to kill his wife.

I do think there was some form of confrontation that spurred him to return to Raleigh the night Michelle was killed, perhaps a phone call. He was only 2.5 hours away - if he told her his plans she may well have told him not to return period. If I was 2.5 hours from my wife and she was po'd with me during a phone call - I 'd go home to try and resolve the problem...just saying.

 

[Taximom]

Interesting info about a therapist being a part of this. I have to wonder how much info the therapist would have if the therapy had just started. It usually takes a few sessions to completely open up about what is really going on. I hope there's enough to give LE what they need.

I'm picturing Michelle trying to keep her life and their marriage together, all while Jason is trying to selfishly make it all better for HIM. :razz:

I seriously can't wait for Bubba to give Jason a little "therapy".

 

[close_enough]

Strach,

I tend to think that Michelle did somehow find out about MM, but I just don't know about this pregnancy thing. No thoughts on it really as I tend to see it as outside the "box" of this case - don't know why I think that, just do. What I project is a young woman who really wanted family and lost a baby sometime in June - the emotions of that have to be overwhelming. Then quickly gets pregnant again so another layer of emotions is added on top of that. Then the husband decides to foot the bill for himself and three others, maybe more, for a vacation from one side of the country to the other against the best wishes of the young woman - another layer.

Then the husband takes another job which allows him great distance and travel away from home when his wife needs his emotional support, he starts some kind of relationship with a woman who is conveniently in another state (this makes zero sense to me in terms of calling it a serious relationship by either party). I don't know, but I see a lot of things being thrown at Michelle very quickly and while I am not a big fan of therapy - I can see how she might have needed help at some point to deal with all of it, especially if she felt JY was going outside the marriage.

As you know - I never saw the trip to Brevard as a matter of convenience but rather necessity. I think it was either arranged Thursday evening or Friday morning. I also don't believe there was a conventional meeting scheduled - maybe drop bys to visit but not really meetings. Not sure it was part of a murder plan as much as a need to be away from Michelle until the company arrived. Returning home on Saturday for the big game and with company already at the house - JY could minimize any potential contact and/or confrontation with Michelle. See where I'm going, I'm still not sure he concocted some big plan over time to kill his wife.

I do think there was some form of confrontation that spurred him to return to Raleigh the night Michelle was killed, perhaps a phone call. He was only 2.5 hours away - if he told her his plans she may well have told him not to return period. If I was 2.5 hours from my wife and she was po'd with me during a phone call - I 'd go home to try and resolve the problem...just saying.

great way to catch up here, betw Strach & you.....INTERESTING stuff for sure.....a therapist, hmmmm

there being a confrontation is looking more likely, for sure...thinking....

 

[close_enough]

Two brilliant posts PackFan and Charlie. Thanks to both of you. My, we have some movers and shakers on this forum!

So you think he called her after having left with luggage, knowing it was all over between them. Maybe an I love you and can't live withough you and Cassidy, and in no uncertain terms she let him know that she would fight the fight in the divorce to where he would not even have visitation rights with Cassidy. I'm sure she had enough proof for that with his lifestyle and antics, and he knew it.

Then it is like you said Charlie, he knew he could never prove Michelle was a bad mother and he wasn't going to live his life without Cassidy, so he had to kill her.

Crazy isn't it. He didn't think it through. It wasn't that well planned, murder 1 would pull life without parole and she would be out of his life anyway. The only way to win would be to walk out of their lives with his tail between his legs, and his ego of being burned by her wouldn't let him do that.


PS: I still think Michelle learned about JY and MM after he had left that Thursday afternoon in a phone conversation she had with MM. So when he called her late at night, she was beside herself with anger, and JY knew the writing was on the wall.

Really sad. It makes me so sad to realize how this probably went down. Thinking of Cassidy, who I think still remembers what she saw and yet just loves her Daddy. She's Daddy's girl. I think she always was.


ETA: You think he busted up the wedding photos Charlie by throwing them across the room before he attacked her, which might have been a big clue to LE it was not a random murder?

possible,,,or her throwing them...maybe that's the part of the dry wall they removed upstairs???...where the pictures were thrown against the wall?

 

[close_enough]

Alright, here goes. Some of this could be factual, maybe, most is pure crap but it's my story and I'm sticking too it. Also noted that I am taking into consideration things that i have heard that have yet to be reported, so here goes.

MY was in therapy, I could not verify this information but heard it within a week of the murder. Source seems good so I will also say that she had told her family and JY that she was leaving him (maybe this will come out later). Makes a lot of sense now why the Fishers immediately pointed the finger at JY, huh? I will also go out on a limb here, jmo of course, that if LF could get her hands on Cassidy, I would bet that she would do anything to keep her away from JY since she seems convinced that JY is the perp.

I had previously beleived that JY did have a business meeting but am seriously doubting this now. I can't verify that people were coming to stay with the Youngs but I would tend to beleive that this poster is credible for several reasons. First of all, they were big fans and had lifetime rights. These are neither cheap or even all that easy to get. They had lots of friends and had a specific spot that they met before games. At times, there could have been 50 or more people tailgating together and this was in fact homecoming weekend, big game. Secondly, don't know this first hand but I do beleive they had guests often. Several of their friends from out of town would stay when they came in town. I beleive that it will come out that it was not a meeting but he will try to say he was cold calling on customers. For some reason I am doubting that the insurance was the reason for the murder. I now beleive that he was tired of being married and MY had the nerve to leave HIM. The trip to the parents seems illogical if they had people coming to visit and it seems by the tone of sosad, it was friends of his. His friends called them to let them know the news.

So, I'm thinking that he may have considered it before but not acted on it. With people coming, doesn't seem logical that he would invite friends to come and stay if he had planned this way in advance. I think the marriage was in shambles, and it wore on him. Don't know when the therapy started but it said soon before the murder. I suspect that she had told him in the last week that it was coming to an end. The business meeting was just an excuse imo and bet that it will end up being false. I do think he called his parents a couple of days in advance, started thinking about an alibi and figured a business meeting with a hotel stay just over the va line and a trip to brevard should be enough to cover for him.

IMO, when you are trying to cya, you WILL make a mistake. Seems as some of those mistakes and discrepencies are starting to show.

yes it does...& thanks so much for this info/your thoughts....i love the fact that you're from there...

 

[close_enough]

Thank you pacfan, rc. Very very interesting.

Scandi - I like that about randon/wedding pictures.

I'm not so sure how it all went down yet. The friends of jy's were travelling on the Friday. I'm just wondering if the youngs' were planning on making face so to speak until this weekend was over. Then maybe jy thought the fact that the friends were coming too would make it even more convincing that he would not murder Michelle?

Whatever, imo jy planned this.

i'm not either...we need some LE leaks!!

 

[caffeinatd]

I saw earlier on this thread a discussion about crime scene evidence collection and equipment, I just stumbled on this from the CCBI site.
Thought some of you might be interested. I was bummed to CCBI sends specimens to SBI labs for processing, and I hear they are months behind in processing DNA. MOO

http://www.wakegov.com/ccbi/duties.htm

 

[scandi]

ITA that they were not taken for identification purposes. I think they were used as a weapon at some point and time and possibly contain some sort of dna evidence. I don't see LE taking them just because they were broken. A simple picture could have done that for them. Also, if it was just blood splatter, they could have just taken samples of the blood and moved on. I think there is some sort of evidence contained on those photos. Either prints from the perp if he grabbed it, or possible dna if Michelle tried to grab it and fight back. It would have been something that would have been close by and LE indicated early on that they suspected that the perp may have been injured.

There's my 2 cents, spend them wisely....

I wonder if her left thumb was cut by glass or the frame from one of those pictures? If she reached for it as he bashed it, I could see that happening. Oh, Oh, maybe this has something to do with LE saying they thought the perp had been injured! Maybe a dab of his blood or a partial print . . . on a piece of broken glass, something he wouldn't notice!

 

[jilly]

i'm not either...we need some LE leaks!!

It seems very odd that he would be going to his parents on a big game weekend when his friends are arriving on the Friday to stay with them. To help me figure out how this murder went down it would help me to know when he let his parents know that he was coming.

If he phoned his parents a few days beforehand then I think he planned the whole thing (to murder her). What better time than this particular weekend with his friends coming.

If he phoned his parents Thurs nite or Friday morning then I agree with RCs theory.

 

[jilly]

I saw earlier on this thread a discussion about crime scene evidence collection and equipment, I just stumbled on this from the CCBI site.
Thought some of you might be interested. I was bummed to CCBI sends specimens to SBI labs for processing, and I hear they are months behind in processing DNA. MOO

http://www.wakegov.com/ccbi/duties.htm

Hi Caffeinatd. Thanks for thinking of us. There was an interesting conversation around post #65, in case you missed it.