Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 15.

[Utopia]

There was an interesting post on CTV tonight by a poster named Purple but nobody commented on it. I am not registered there and don't want to be, but I also don't want to steal his/her post. I thought it would be interesting to have it shared here - so Purple, if you are out there or someone that knows Purple, it was about an entry he/she came across on a website called "baby Thomas" by a Michelle Young. Can anyone help?

Utopia

 

[strach304]

Hey Chico, glad to see your thoughts on this case. :dance: Remebering your posts from the Laci case.

I have a new thought I wanna try out that I haven't seen speculated on but lets keep in mind info gleaned from insiders on the other board may not be accurate, ok? When we got the info on the therapist right before that was the trip to Ca. so we know from warrants LE wanted those discs from that and discs from around the 2003 era. RC, do you remember if they were specific about if they were discs from the wedding or did we just infer that from the time frame? I'm wondering about a trip along with a possible accident that may have occurred in that time frame?

With coincidence upon coincidence and some suspicion also with the car accident it wouldn't surprise me to find similarities there too. I know it's generally believed that Jason took family on that Ca. trip and that's something Michelle herself may have thought and told others but found out differently or there was more to it somehow that she became aware of later. I have to go back to my first instinct in this case where it was reported the husband was out of town and the other stuff first released and it sounded very contrived to me. Another accident and trip in 2003 as a way of not going through with the marriage but he wouldn't be to blame and was away? Possibly a boating or swimming mishap we don't know about on a honeymoon trip together? Then there's the thought of LE comparing picture discs from both trips looking for the same person in pics that Jason may have associated with both times with nefarious intentions that they want to tie him to.

I know my imagination is a little wild at times but I do still believe that Scott Peterson had thought of and tried several ways of getting rid of Laci long before he actually did it. In ways that would look accidental or he would be out of town and in the clear and then when those failed he became desperate as her due date was near and so he made many mistakes that got him caught. Perhaps Michelle forced Jason's hand with simply the threat of divorce just like a resented forced marriage and this is how he chooses to deal with such matters. IMO to do something like that takes a pretty sick mind in the first place. If he was all about people's perceptions of him like another smooth operator we're famliar with, wouldn't the same thought processes apply? As for wanting his freedom and having to raise Cassidy, I'll believe that when I see it. It's been stated that his sister wants children and being suspicious of him all along, I don't doubt again he has her for now for more than appearance sake. All imo if he did this.

 

[SueY]

There was an interesting post on CTV tonight by a poster named Purple but nobody commented on it. I am not registered there and don't want to be, but I also don't want to steal his/her post. I thought it would be interesting to have it shared here - so Purple, if you are out there or someone that knows Purple, it was about an entry he/she came across on a website called "baby Thomas" by a Michelle Young. Can anyone help?
Utopia

I'm not Purple (or green), Utopia, but I think this is what you are looking for:
http://www.babythomas.co.uk/guestbook7.html
There's a post there from a Michelle Young, 07 March 2006.
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]My baby was stillborn at 20wks and 2 days. Reading this has helped a great deal."[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
I don't know if it's "the" Michelle Young.[/FONT]

 

[strach304]

There was an interesting post on CTV tonight by a poster named Purple but nobody commented on it. I am not registered there and don't want to be, but I also don't want to steal his/her post. I thought it would be interesting to have it shared here - so Purple, if you are out there or someone that knows Purple, it was about an entry he/she came across on a website called "baby Thomas" by a Michelle Young. Can anyone help?

Utopia

I saw that earlier but did you notice it was a stillbirth and sent in on March 7, 2006? I looked at it and thought it was a strange coincidence but unless there's another we don't know about or the date is off I don't see how it could be her.

 

[Utopia]

I saw that earlier but did you notice it was a stillbirth and sent in on March 7, 2006? I looked at it and thought it was a strange coincidence but unless there's another we don't know about or the date is off I don't see how it could be her.

Thank you Strach and Sue (whatever colour you are)

No wonder no one responded! I thought the post just got lost in that very long argument about spontaneous vs therapeutic vs abortion vs miscarriage...never mind. I think I must have looked at it and misread May instead of March, probably because I was thinking of May as being when the accident happened.

My thought was that if it was indeed her posting that message between the time she lost her baby and the murder (and there was a away to prove it was by identifying the IP address), it might show something about her state of mind during that time. I wonder if she did belong to any online groups or seek out support online somehow - such as this MY did, if it could be detected on the confiscated computer.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Taximom]

Interesting article about NC Senate Bill 295 making it a capital offense to kill a pregnant woman:

http://deathwatch.wordpress.com/

 

[strach304]

Interesting indeed. Doesn't give a date that I could find for when it would be passed if it is.

 

[Taximom]

Interesting indeed. Doesn't give a date that I could find for when it would be passed if it is.

According to Brock's website, the bill has been referred to the Judiciary committee. (yawn) I wonder how long it will take. (I just checked and the Jud. comm. only meets Tuesdays/Thursdays at 10:00 a.m.)

Here's Brock's link. He's certainly a busy guy!
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/reports/introducedBills.pl?nUserID=104&Chamber=S

 

[scandi]

I hope they do pass the bill, but unless they make it retroactive it won't affect the charge on Michelle's killer ;{

That is a real coincidence about the posting on the Thomas site, but is a few months too early to be our Michelle I think.

I have taken to heart one of Charlie's great ideas on the case, that the accident was just that, but it was caused by JY's negligent driving. The clown and practical joker, I think he was horsing around driving that car and if he did something stupid like take his eyes off the road to turn around or take both hands off the wheel, he lost control and veered off down that 100' embankment.

I wanted to post that at CTV last night but didn't as it wasn't my idea, but think it could be an important clue as to what was going on in the lives of this couple.IF Michelle lost the baby as the result of her belly being bumped hard in the accident and JY did not show the same measure of grief or simply passed it off, not accepting his negligence as the reason for losing their baby, Michelle would resent that.

If you take that plus everything else we've learned about him not being a good husband, plus add in whatever we don't know about yet , I think it shows a time frame of say 5 months before her death when everything between them started to go downhill.


Stratch, we know he had affairs, heard it said enough by insiders, and since he somewhat acquessed to marrying her due to the advent of Cassidy, I'm starting to put faith in the rumor that in 2003 she caught him in bed with someone. And I think it was at the condo he owned with his buddy. It just seems to fit and makes sense. Remember good 'ole Scott P was caught by Laci right after they were married.

MEN! Gees

 

[Utopia]

(snipped)
"I think it shows a time frame of say 5 months before her death when everything between them started to go downhill"

I totally agree Scandi - that's why the time frame between Michelle's second pregnancy and her death is so crucial, and I suspect there will be quite a focus on it. It's also why that "Baby Thomas" post peaked my curiosity about whether or not MY may have reached out over the internet in some way, and if that could be explored as to what she was feeling, thinking and experiencing during that time, and further what it might contribute to the investigation into her murder. No, that particular message was obviously not hers, but it might very well have been a few months later. There has been much speculation about what she may or may not have shared with friends and family but its amazing what people will share with strangers on the internet.

Utopia

 

[philamena]

When is there going to be an arrest in this case? Surely LE isn't still waiting for DNA and other forensics?

 

[jilly]

When is there going to be an arrest in this case? Surely LE isn't still waiting for DNA and other forensics?

I wouldn't think they'd still be waiting. I would have thought this case would have received priority.

There was one 'insider' at CTV that an arrest would be made at the end of the month. I'm kind of hanging on that.

I will say that LE has had to start from scratch on this case. JY clammed up immediately. I'm kind of ticked off that LE did not get to present him with the news that his wife had been murdered. As well as looking at his demeanor, they would have caught him AND his family right off guard and could have done some questioning.

Thing is, nobody knew JY was going to be in Bevard aside from JY & his parents. I understand it was JYs friends who contacted the parents and told him to get a lawyer because of the questions LE were asking. These friends must have kept it to themselves that they were going to phone the parents, I think. JY lucked out because of it.

I think the cops were pizzed about that too from the sounds of the call they made to JY during his ride back to Raleigh.

 

[scandi]

Hi Utopia, Interesting they are discussing the date of the accident right now at CTV. A link states it happened in 2005, not 2006. Have we encounteresd this discrepancy before?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1063178/

 

[panthera]

Interesting article about NC Senate Bill 295 making it a capital offense to kill a pregnant woman:

http://deathwatch.wordpress.com/

Yes, they're finally getting around to passing some good legislation around here but, unfortunately, it wouldn't affect Michelle's case. I think it will pass and become law though!

 

[panthera]

When is there going to be an arrest in this case? Surely LE isn't still waiting for DNA and other forensics?

There hasn't been anything in the news lately but I'd think those lab results would've come back weeks ago.

 

[Utopia]

Hmmm, that's interesting. I'm not sure. I'll check other reports as well as Scout's timeline. Does that mean she was pregnant with the baby she lost then as well? That would certainly make much more sense than losing the baby one week and getting pregnant again within a couple of weeks later. I'll see what I can find out.

Utopia

Hi Utopia, Interesting they are discussing the date of the accident right now at CTV. A link states it happened in 2005, not 2006. Have we encounteresd this discrepancy before?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1063178/

 

[scandi]

Yea Utopia, I thought there was something a bit off about that. They just posted that Amanda Lamb made an error in her article, so it was in May of 2006.

A poster has just posted there they found trace amounts of blook in JY's car on the floor mats, door and steering wheel I believe. Amazing we have never heard this before, and I don't know if this poster is an insider - AE. Top part of page 6 on today's daily forum.

It would make one wonder why they didn't arrest him, but maybe the tests were inconclusive for some reason, or they still needed to have something else. Don't you think that would put him at the scene. In many Forensic Files cases on TV they have evidence you would think would nail the guy, but need a string of telling evicence to make it a dead set case the prosecution can win.

LOLOLOL I feel like a little narc, running back and forth with info! Oh, well!

 

[strach304]

Scandi, yes we had that date thing cleared up back in the beginning of this case. Was supposed to be an error by the reporter and several insiders not sure of the exact date in May were sure it was 2006.

Also the info that unknown fingerprints found could imo be a very good explanation for a holdup of an arrest no matter who that turns out to be for several reasons depending on where those prints were found. Accomplices for instance, the SODDI defense especially in light of the tooth found by the Youngs.

ETA: Sorry Scandi, I see you found the info on the date thing. As I recall there was also problems with the actual day in May, being either the beginning or end of May. Almost 3 weeks. Also that poster on ctv talking about blood is asking what if it was found in those places, not that it was if I read correctly. Usual imo for that poster.

 

[Barney Fife]

Yea Utopia, I thought there was something a bit off about that. They just posted that Amanda Lamb made an error in her article, so it was in May of 2006.

A poster has just posted there they found trace amounts of blook in JY's car on the floor mats, door and steering wheel I believe. Amazing we have never heard this before, and I don't know if this poster is an insider - AE. Top part of page 6 on today's daily forum.

It would make one wonder why they didn't arrest him, but maybe the tests were inconclusive for some reason, or they still needed to have something else. Don't you think that would put him at the scene. In many Forensic Files cases on TV they have evidence you would think would nail the guy, but need a string of telling evicence to make it a dead set case the prosecution can win.

LOLOLOL I feel like a little narc, running back and forth with info! Oh, well!

That poster has ZERO inside information and is basically a TROLL on CTV. She ? is very much pro-JY and has a very antagonistic style.

 

[strach304]

Scandi, the latest theory I see coming down the pike because imo that's what's beeen hinted at for a few days now is Michelle's father. Based simply on suspicion that's what Michelle was seeing a therapist for. It started here imo by one poster recently banned, trails back to JTF's statement about the answer being in NY. Michelle was said to have been in NY in July, a rift with her father and similar indications also from Meredith on her MySpace page. As of today I saw someone post another little hint about someone who didn't want MY and JY to be married who was not at the wedding. We know it's been stated her father wasn't. All imo. so be ready.

ETA: Also the sex therapist questions that about Michelle presented here and the past questions about her being possibly sexually abused as a child by said banned poster. Hi'ya BF. Any news on those fingerprints?