Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 15.

[raisincharlie]

Thanks for the welcome. I lurk alot. Feel somewhat "intimidated" when I read all of your posts....you're all sooooo smart! Seriously, your theories are great, posters are nice, so much nicer than other boards. I really enjoy lurking and posting!

Justice for MY, CY and baby boy Y.

Kadie,

Don't be intimidated - no need for that whatsoever !

 

[strach304]

Also forgot to mention all the extra driving involved. Lets also go through that again. RC, I know you have the time if not distance memorized Hotel location still bugs me to no end. Still no idea where the meeting was but he definitely got gas in Duffield. Brevard back to Raleigh.

Sorry Pack_Fan, trying not to overlook anyone's post specifically about mine or to me. Guess Jake has nothing nice to say so he's not gonna say anything.

 

[strach304]

Kadie,

Don't be intimidated - no need for that whatsoever !

She's right though this is the smart board, that was my first impression. Also the nice and sane board. Will somebody go find our Scandi? Where is she?

 

[Kadie]

Kadie,

Don't be intimidated - no need for that whatsoever !

Thanks RC. Didn't mean that in a bad way........I love all of your posts.

I guess I am starting to feel comfortable now after lurking for awhile....either that or its the 2 glasses of chardonnay I have had since I came home from work tonight. I am a social worker and today was kinda ugly.....comes w/the job I guess!

I did notice too that "Jake" only posted once tonight!!

 

[pack_fan]

OK, seriously, I think there was mention of an interview on the phone with JY's family when they broke the news. LE said they spoke briefly to JY on the phone on the way back to raleigh and he immediately referred them to his lawyer. No doubt in my mind he had counsel before leaving Brevard and had nothing to do with friends. ITA with all of you that LE had much more to do than call JY's buddies and ask them any questions.

Obviously they would look at the husband first. Common knowledge, so I don't think that was a huge deal. I'm sure LE thought it was suspicious that he was out of town but surely could have been coincidence. Something tells me there was something in the house that implicated JY immediately. Not that there was no signs of forced entry but something else, something personal. The wedding photos come to mind immediately but can't say for sure. For some reason, I think those pictures are going to be a key factor as well as his big old feet .

 

[Kadie]

Also forgot to mention all the extra driving involved. Lets also go through that again. RC, I know you have the time if not distance memorized Hotel location still bugs me to no end. Still no idea where the meeting was but he definitely got gas in Duffield. Brevard back to Raleigh.

Sorry Pack_Fan, trying not to overlook anyone's post specifically about mine or to me. Guess Jake has nothing nice to say so he's not gonna say anything.

Good idea to go over that again. I'm a little confused w/ the meeting location, receipts found, hotel location etc.

 

[strach304]

That's an interesting theory. I suspect that somehow Jason may have made the call to the friends coming from out of town himself or they were not told and did arrive at the Birchleaf residence to find the residence taped off. At that point, they may have started calling other friends trying to find out what was going on if known, which should have been NO. They also may have spoken with some of the neighbors or they may have indeed called Jason, not necessarily to say what they saw but to ask about him.

It is possible they did indeed arrive at the house and did ask an officer manning the perimeter. That officer may have told an investigator and the investigator may well have spoken to them and realized exactly as you say - perhaps the trip to Brevard looked funny with friends arriving. LE was mighty suspicious of JY from the begining so this is possible. I seriously doubt any kind of interogation of them was conducted at that point however.

A poster named sosad on ctv posted that someone in Raleigh called them while they were in route and decided to still come. If these are the same friends said to be at Merediths when Jason did arrive I'll bet they were questioned by LE. I know I would've. That poster said they don't know if they were aware of Jasons change of plans. You may not have seen it because you were out of town at the time, maybe? I haven't seen that poster acting like they wouldn't be credible and that did seem to be all they do know. It's a jump though for those who are saying it was the friends who were "interrogated" by LE to tell Jason to get a lawyer. If they did speak with him by phone he probably asked them what LE wanted to know.

 

[Kadie]

The wedding photos come to mind immediately but can't say for sure. For some reason, I think those pictures are going to be a key factor as well as his big old feet .

I was going to post this a while back when it was on topic. My hubby was married before and when he first found out that wife had cheated on him...guess what was the first thing he did??? Yep, he went for the wedding photos on the wall and on the desk. He said he broke the glass and actually tore up the picture then threw it on the floor. Now, Hubby is not violent......but they had been married for less than 6 months when he starting finding out alot of ugly things about first wife.....
So I was wondering.....if MY found out that night about MM and JY.....did she pull the wedding photos down, smash the glass, tear them up, throw them in the garbage? Or is it an opinion that JY himself did something to the photos? I've always thought it was MY that tore up the photos after she found out about the affair with MM...so then the photos were lying on the floor of the bedroom when she was murdered and so they had blood spatter, etc. on the glass/photos.
JMO of course.........anything is possible!

 

[strach304]

Pack_Fan, wasn't that his mother they spoke with on the way back to Raleigh? It was his phone they called though?

The out of town coincidence with the PC document, no way for them to know he had been out of town all night until they asked. Cassidy there unharmed.

 

[raisincharlie]

Good idea to go over that again. I'm a little confused w/ the meeting location, receipts found, hotel location etc.

Receipts from the SUV:

1. Get It Market - gas 11/3
2. Handee Hugos #89 - gas 11/2
3. Hampton Hotel - 11/2

Through computer sleuthing - several differing posters found a Get it Market in Duffield Virginia. Dominique actually established contact with the store manager who confirmed LE had been there to look at surveillance tapes. Jy was on the tape.

Handee Hugos #89 is located in Raleigh, north of the Young home near the inner circle of Raleigh.

RPD checked various Hamptons through a rather ingenious method and found a listing for JY at the Hillsville Virginia Hampton on 11/2


The actual location of the business meeting has not been divulged to this point by any source (makes one wonder if there really was a meeting - aye ?).

 

[liveoutloud]

It was the phone call from Brevard not in person. Rhett Fussell was only repeating what Jason told him at the funeral. Yes he was quoted in the paper as saying he just had lunch with Michelle a few days before the murder. The furniture story was to give Jason a reason for going to Brevard last minute so to speak regardless of the other plans he already had. The news reports from early on made it sound as if the trip to his mothers house was convenient to the business meeting. Have no idea why they thought that at the time.

Oh, ok. I get it. Well, was Rhett JY's friend or MY's friend? If you know?

 

[liveoutloud]

Jilly, :blowkiss:

Utopia, I was the one bored She liked it but now does the Happy feet dance

Didn't mean to be rude, Welcome; Utopia, Live out Loud and Kadie! :dance:

Thanks for the welcome!

 

[liveoutloud]

When you look at Gojo's input none of it makes any sense, this is why; he decided to get the furniture at 9pm the night before and spend the night with friends coming. He couldn't have called them that night or morning and said otherwise because they still came, right? I do think them showing up and not knowing Jasons plans to go to Brevard would have caused LE to ask many things about that because just like the reason for MF to go to the house and coincidentally find her dead sister all ring true of last minute changes and stories not adding up for Jason. Early on they didn't know when the crime was committed either so his being out of town was also a little too convenient right then from their perspective. Of course they asked questions about him.

Hmmm. Kind of like SPeterson not being able to decide on fishing vs golf for awhile there huh?

 

[liveoutloud]

Jilly and Strach thanks so much for the warm welcome. Though I've been registered since the SP case I haven't posted much and this is the first case I've allowed myself to get involved in since SP because I was afraid I'd get sucked in again...and well, here I am - like crumbs to a vacuum cleaner. I've been posting more lately as I come up with new and creative ways to avoid my studies, which is not a good thing so I must keep a handle on it. I enjoy your reading your posts.

Strach - I was bored in parts as well but those male empires sure are impressive!

liveoutloud - WELCOME! You are a great addition!

ETA - I apologize for bring O/T

Utopia

Thank you!

 

[liveoutloud]

IMO he probably called LE at the number left for him after he got up off his knees or crawled in, whatever. Didn't like the questions directed to him about his current location, change of plans, document, etc. and said speak with my attorney all around 3 something, then retained a lawyer. All the friends and step-father hooey, accusatory cops has been told by who? There was a poster a long time ago on ctv that said if Jason was having an affair he'd then wonder about his guilt too. Right after that affair was confirmed in the news a lot of so-called doubters stopped posting and defending him.

ETA: About the step-father, Jason imo got off the phone and said that they were accusing him and it's possible his family knew there were marital problems and so the step-father started making calls for legal advice or a law firm referral. Maybe?

LOL.
Probably just exactly right. Oh, the lol was for the crawl in thing.

 

[jake]

Also forgot to mention all the extra driving involved. Lets also go through that again. RC, I know you have the time if not distance memorized Hotel location still bugs me to no end. Still no idea where the meeting was but he definitely got gas in Duffield. Brevard back to Raleigh.

Sorry Pack_Fan, trying not to overlook anyone's post specifically about mine or to me. Guess Jake has nothing nice to say so he's not gonna say anything.

Howdy,

I've just come back in and trying to get caught up. Busy board tonight.

The posters on the other board figured out the motel details. The Hampton Inn at Hillsville where Jason spent Nov. 2 night is about 3 hours north of Raleigh.

Speculation by some is that Jason could leave home about 8 pm, stop at the motel about 11 pm, get a room, later drive back to Raleigh, do his business, and then return to his motel or go on to his business meeting in western Virginia and get there by 10 am.

--Jake

 

[liveoutloud]

Kadie,

Don't be intimidated - no need for that whatsoever !

I agree with Kadie on the intidmidation thing. You guys are good.

 

[liveoutloud]

OK, seriously, I think there was mention of an interview on the phone with JY's family when they broke the news. LE said they spoke briefly to JY on the phone on the way back to raleigh and he immediately referred them to his lawyer. No doubt in my mind he had counsel before leaving Brevard and had nothing to do with friends. ITA with all of you that LE had much more to do than call JY's buddies and ask them any questions.

Obviously they would look at the husband first. Common knowledge, so I don't think that was a huge deal. I'm sure LE thought it was suspicious that he was out of town but surely could have been coincidence. Something tells me there was something in the house that implicated JY immediately. Not that there was no signs of forced entry but something else, something personal. The wedding photos come to mind immediately but can't say for sure. For some reason, I think those pictures are going to be a key factor as well as his big old feet .

Pack fan:

I remember it that way too, but with the posts all going the way of the trash bin at CTV, can't prove it to myself. Plus, what WRAL reports is sometimes different than the other outlets.

 

[BarnGoddess]

Howdy,

I've just come back in and trying to get caught up. Busy board tonight.

The posters on the other board figured out the motel details. The Hampton Inn at Hillsville where Jason spent Nov. 2 night is about 3 hours north of Raleigh.

Speculation by some is that Jason could leave home about 8 pm, stop at the motel about 11 pm, get a room, later drive back to Raleigh, do his business, and then return to his motel or go on to his business meeting in western Virginia and get there by 10 am.

--Jake

Geez Jake, I speculated and posted about this ages ago here. However, I placed him in Danville. Same scenario, just different hotel/motel. Of course this could have made it premeditated unless he was angry about something, angry enough to come back for a confrontation that went terribly wrong.

 

[jake]

Howdy,

I meant to add to my other post....

Some posters at ctv also posted maps that show Jason's probable route from Raleigh to Hillsville and on to western Virginia and Duffield. Duffield is north of Brevard, NC and on the map does look to be a convenient stop for Jason.

So many posts have been poofed on ctv that I can't begin to tell you how to find a map. Maybe Sami knows.

--Jake