Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 16

[caffeinatd]

Don't know where she and Ryan stand today. However, she is a nurse antithesis and he has his masters in electrical engineering. When emotions became detached, most smart people like them figured this out long ago.

Do you know what her degree from NCSU was in? I know they don't have a nrsg program, any ideas where she got her nursing degree? Were her and Michelle sorority sisters at NCSU, or just sisters in the same sorority at different universities? or just friends through their husbands? Thanks...

 

[Barney Fife]

Do you know what her degree from NCSU was in? I know they don't have a nrsg program, any ideas where she got her nursing degree? Were her and Michelle sorority sisters at NCSU, or just sisters in the same sorority at different universities? or just friends through their husbands? Thanks...

She was in the same sorority as a "little sister"....she was a freshman when MY was either a Junior or Senior. I have no idea where she went to nursing school after NCSU

 

[citygirl]

Don't know where she and Ryan stand today. However, she is a nurse antithesis and he has his masters in electrical engineering. When emotions became detached, most smart people like them figured this out long ago.

Did you mean a nurse anesthetist ? So, she's smart , calm, cool under pressure. And he is an old buddy . Bet they've had many sleepless nights pondering all of this.

 

[Barney Fife]

Did you mean a nurse anesthetist ? So, she's smart , calm, cool under pressure. And he is an old buddy . Bet they've had many sleepless nights pondering all of this.

thanks for the correction...did spell check and it changed to that and I did not even notice

 

[scandi]

"I just got a mail from a gal in Michael's office who showed the Young home when it was for sale.

I'm posting it, but since she doesn't know I belong to a crime forum , I am not going to use her name.

Here is what she had to say:


VIRTUAL TOUR OF 5108 Birchleaf Dr

Stairways: from the front door, just offset to the left, carpeted stairs lead to the second floor. The master bedroom is to the left off the landing. There's only one window, in the back corner.

To the right from the landing is a doorway leading to the computer/office room with a big window looking out back.

Going further, from that room is a doorway leading to the large multipurpose room: playroom, exercise room, upstairs TV room, etc. Windows in this room look out back and front.

From that room is a doorway leading to a storage/multipurpose room over the garage with windows looking out back and front. To the right of that doorway, toward the front of the house, is a second stairway leading to the kitchen area.

At the top of the front stairway you step out onto the landing, and to the left is the MBR. Now turn and face the front of the house. To the right extending toward the front of the house is a half wall about four feet long.

It's probably primarily meant to keep someone from falling down the stairs. It also defines the hallway leading to the front of the house.

To the right is the half wall. To the left is a full bath and a bathroom/guest bathroom, almost across from the MBR door.

Take another half step (about 2 feet) toward the front of the house and on the left is the doorway to that bedroom. It has windows looking out on the front. It's not exactly across from the MBR, but down the hall about four feet.

Now, still facing the front of the house, take about three full steps (about 9 feet) and the door on the right is for a guest bedroom. It's windows look out on the front. One wall abutts the closet wall of the MBR.

Also besides the butler stairs Michael told you about, there is another short stairway from the left of the large multipurpose room leads to an attic storage room.

Scandi


ETA: Ammended to include additional info.

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to get this information Scandi. It definitely helps to know and to be able to visualize it.

 

[Samiya]

"I just got a mail from a gal in Michael's office who showed the Young home when it was for sale.

Well done honey!!!!!

lol, I saw your post at ctv about Lacey being dead....oops :blushing: lol

Can you ask the lady if she still has photos of the Young house on file?

TIA

Sami

 

[scandi]

Scandi,

How do we know this murderer didn't do the same thing ? Use the washer and dryer ? Maybe he was smart enough to mix some of Michelle's clothes in instead of just washing his own. What if the routine laundry soap was Oxyclean ? Pretty hard on DNA evidence...like blood in particular.

Good point Charlie. He could have had plenty of time to wash and dry the clothes.

If he used side swings he wouldn't have much blood on him anyway. I worry though about the blows to the left side of the head when she had to be lying on the floor. We know the combo of downward blows to the head resting on a hard surface would crack the skull, which they did. Blood could have spattered the ceiling if hw wasn't standing over her. Maybe not, there are 7' ceilings in that house. But he would have had it all over him I would think. Cast off I think from using the weapon in a downward stroke.

I don't think he was [re[ared for blood unless he wasn't trying to strangle her but rather hold her say to the wall. If he did that he must have had a coveraup on.

Scandi

PS: I just realized Charlie that one of the reasons her skull might not have cracked when hit in the back of the head is if she was being held up while being hit there with a side swing, those blows didn't have the impact to crack her skull as her head might have moved as the blows hit. Her head wasn't on a stable base, and furthermore, maybe that is why the blows were not more pointed at the back of the head. The movement of her head made that hard to accomplish.

;} Sorry to go O/T

 

[jilly]

Yes Scandi - I too appreciate all you are doing!:blowkiss:

 

[scandi]

Well done honey!!!!!

lol, I saw your post at ctv about Lacey being dead....oops :blushing: lol

Can you ask the lady if she still has photos of the Young house on file?

TIA

Sami

Hi Sami, Yes I should call her, shouldn't I? Michael told me she lives in a big house on some Lake road, and that she also has two sons. He said, if you find anyone in Raleigh with the last name of Buffaloe they are all related! LOL

I'll give her a jingle tomorrow in the morning. Hope her # is listed, and if not will get one of the sons to give her a message to please call me.

Wouldn't that be great if she sent pictures. I'd have to find someone to scan them though to put them on the web. Maybe send them to JBean or someone who can figure that out. Lord knows right now I'm just lost with photos. And I have the All In One HP that faxes, copies and scans!

Scandi

 

[The Saint]

Thank you for all of your hard work, Flicka.
Kinkos can scan any photos and put them on a computer disk.

is it possible that jay was striking michelle's head through a pillowcase
or sheet as to avoid a lot of blood splatter?

jmo

 

[scandi]

Thanks guys.

After reading that and rolling it around in my head today {as I worked ;}, I now think I know the basic plan:

1} MBr is in upper left quadrant of home, facing backyard.
2} MGBath adjoins that and is centered at back of home with widow to back.
3} Office study adjoins MBath and looks out to backyard.

4} Exit office facing front of home. On your left is door to bonus room that looks out on both front and back.
5} Next to that is door to Cassidy's room which ajoins Hall bath.
6} Across from Bathroom door to right is door to second small bedroom. Open door and walk thru 5' corridor that opens up into the bedroom which faces front with 2 windows. The inside wall of that br ajoins the back of the MBr walk-in closets which both are entered from the M/br.

7} Kitchen is under MBath and office.
8} Family/TV room under MBr.
9} Dining room under Cassidy's Br, and
10} Living room under second small bedroom.

11} Butler stairs go from kitchen in back of home up to second story, and another stair connects stairs to small attic for storage.

The only way I can see getting into that second br is through that corridor with a window to keep the Buffaloe open vault in the entry/foyer. This was done in the 5505 home, also built by Buffaloe, only then it was the MBr walk-in closet. Scandi

 

[scandi]

Thank you for all of your hard work, Flicka.
Kinkos can scan any photos and put them on a coputer disk.

is it possible that jay was striking michelle's head through a pillowcase
or sheet as to avoid a lot of blood splatter?

jmo

That's a possibility, but it would be hard to do I think. There was blood spatter on a {plural} walls, so we know it wasn't caught by anything. Maybe Sami has some idea about the blows to the side of the ear area that would result in cast off which would hit anyone square in the face I would think if they are standing over her. It is hard to know exactly how it would go. Scandi

 

[The Saint]

Hey Raisin! I had the same thought about him trying to hurry up and find some clothes so he could get the heck out of there. It would be a bit frustrating trying to figure out just what to wear after brutally murdering your wife. What sort of outfit would that call for?

something in black or camoflage.

imo

 

[The Saint]

Barney

Are you kidding? Have you told this information before? If so, I missed it. This is pretty big. I know I had heard that the GA friend was pro JY. This would explain why. IIRC though, it seemed as if I heard or read that the GA friend had had a change of heart. Do you know if this is true or not? By any chance? For that matter, do you know why nothing, absolutely nothing has ever been said about her. Not in the media, not by LE. Not on any of these message boards. Why?

I think that it was JTF who said that GA knows that jason didn't kill michelle.

that could have been a presumption on JTF's part. she presumed that GA
would support jason because she was married to jason's best friend.

i don't think that GA and ryan will ignore the evidence when they see it, especially when they see the whole picture.

imo

 

[raisincharlie]

I sure hope she does not do one of those "I can't recall" lines. After all, she is married to Jason's old pal and condo mate, Ryan Schaad.

Barney, to your knowledge is it true that GA friend definitiely did not believe Jason was connected to Michelle's murder in the beginning ? TIA

 

[raisincharlie]

something in black or camoflage.

imo

Hey Bud

I can't seem to get too excited about the issue of the clothes and whether GA friend saw what Jason was wearing or not. What if she told LE that JY was wearing black pants and a white shirt and what if when he grabbed clothes out of the closet he happened to grab a white shirt and black pants ? Unless he was wearing something unusual, I'm not sure LE will know for sure if those clothes are missing or not.

Downer- let me have it :slap:

 

[The Saint]

Yes, I think those clothes were put in a plastic, weighted bag and heaved over the side of a bridge not so far away. Paranoia couldn't help but set in after one had just initiated such a vicious attack!

Why haven't we heard of any searches at all? I don't know of a murder case where LE hasn't searched for accoutrements to the crime. Should be SOP, and we know the killer didn't change and leave them at the house! Only one murderer did that I remember, and he was as dumb as they come. Y'all know who I mean, Scott Peterson. They found his fishing clothes in the dryer and said they had been washed 2 times. Maybe they were in the washer. He was a doubly dumb duffo! Scandi

{Yep, "Fishing clothes were in the dryer. Thought he had washed them more than once" Misfits}

There is a cul-de-sac inside Enchanted Oaks where there are not many
homes built yet. I believe that there is just one house there. The cul-de-sac backs up to a deep part of Wheeler Lake. It is accessable to all EO residents without having to go through a gate.

jay could have parked, gone down the hill from one of the vacant lots
and tossed the weighted evidence into the lake. It would be unlikely that he would have been seen.

LE probably knows about this cul-de-sac. or do you think one of you who have contact with WCSD should notify them?

imo

 

[Barney Fife]

RPD, to your knowledge is it true that GA friend definitiely did not believe Jason was connected to Michelle's murder in the beginning ? TIA

From what I understand, most of MY's friends could not believe Jason did this early on (at least until MM affair was revealed). Fiona was the exception. She was very vocal early on with her opinion of Jason's guilt

 

[raisincharlie]

From what I understand, most of MY's friends could not believe Jason did this early on (at least until MM affair was revealed). Fiona was the exception. She was very vocal early on with her opinion of Jason's guilt

Thanks - appreciate that information very much.