Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #7

[STEADFAST]

Well, considering they weren't concerned and thought that she left of her own accord, you're right ... they didn't bother to investigate.

Exactly, someone leaves a note saying they're going UA, so why would they investigate? It's not an uncommon occurance, I can assure you. They were not informed of much of what civilian LE was finding out, just as civilian LE was not informed about what military authorities knew. I bet the sheriff's department usually gets total cooperation from units that they contact, so it didn't occur to them (except Sheriff Brown) to contact higher ups.

In my opinion, the horrible communications problems can be directly laid on the unit level. The sheriff's department says they kept trying to contact the unit and got no return call. Sounds like Laurean or a buddy took care of that. His first sergeant and his CO were extremely poor judges of his character, or he would have been in pretrial confinement. The car keying and the punch in the face would also have been handled at the unit level, if they were reported at all.

I think the authorities in Lauterbach and Laurean's unit had a preconceived notion that Lauterbach was the unstable one of the pair. Even her mother seemed to perceive her as somewhat unstable. What nobody picked up on was that Laurean was completely evil, and was most likely planting the seed all along that she was an unreliable, hysterical drama queen in the minds of his workmates and their unit commanders. There's no excuse for the unit to have fallen for this ploy. They should know their soldiers better than this, especially the first sergeant should have.

I don't think the higher military authorities on base are covering anything up. They are just stating what they knew and when they knew it.

 

[lkd-ga]

I'd like to see the doctors report. hummm Is it a military doc?

AMW website has a timeline that I think the military provided. It must have been military Dr if they now when she went to doctor.

 

[Pharlap]

AMW website has a timeline that I think the military provided. It must have been military Dr if they now when she went to doctor.

At this point, not sure if I would trust the military doc...easy to change documents. But what would be the point in doing that..humm

 

[Ticamom]

I'd like to see the doctors report. hummm Is it a military doc?

Most likely she went to the Naval Hospital on base.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

I just snipped this off the Jacksonville News website... Laurean met with lawyers all day Thursday, but kept in touch with a unit representative throughout the day. He told the officer in charge that he might have an appointment the morning of Friday and was told to either report to work on time or call by 7:30 a.m.

Laurean did not report to work or call that morning, and a unit representative tried calling him several times but did not get a response. He was listed as UA, then later that day named as a "person of interest" in Lauterbach's death.

 

[close_enough]

oh my....i don't see anything sinister in that the military determined her due date was mid February.....she reported she was raped on March 26th, & then again two weeks later....she reported these allegations on May 11th & was given a medical exam, & a pregnancy test showed she was not pregnant.....maybe she told her family she was due in January, so it would jibe w/her allegation of rape.....it's possible?

 

[Storm]

My conception date for my last son (18 yrs ago) was April 12th (no doubt of the date) and he was born on Jan 23rd..
My 1st son was May 7 and he was born Feb 4th. (he's 35)
Interestingly enough, I have a son between the two (25)..have no idea his conception date, but he was born Feb 2nd..
17 yrs apart and all that close..
She could easily have had sex mid April on and be told she was due the end of Jan...even though I knew my conception date, the Dr gave me a due date of January 29th..he was born the 23rd and the Pediatrician said he was overdue and he could tell by the condition of his skin.
I would think by now that we'd have heard if she was seeing someone else..her mother may have known...at least Durham may have, if that someone existed.

she was 8 months pregnant...i would think she was probably tired & with everything that had been going on, it's possible she was depressed...i wouldn't be surprised that she wrote this note, along with buying the bus ticket....wonder if she knew anyone in El Paso?.....why go there?

i have to say, after reading the article that ThoughtFox posted in the media links thread, it appears to me that the military did what they were suppose to do.....

http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauterbach_38149___article.html/lcpl_cpl.html

if she had sex with Cesar in March & in April & no other time, then he's not the father of her child.......if he is, they had to have had sex in May also....

 

[Taximom]

Fox talking about Christina now.

Nobody in the media knows where she is. Authorities do. She's safe. She's a cooperating witness. She knows how to reach them. They know how to reach her.

Authorities have no criminal evidence against her.

She is an active duty marine.

WTVD quoting LE sources saying CL mailed 2 additional letters to his wife from Texas. LE now believes CL may be hiding in Mexico.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

OMG.. eww they sure are making sure Christina is safe huh?! Soo Mexico, he can't hide forever!

Fox talking about Christina now.

Nobody in the media knows where she is. Authorities do. She's safe. She's a cooperating witness. She knows how to reach them. They know how to reach her.

Authorities have no criminal evidence against her.

She is an active duty marine.

WTVD quoting LE sources saying CL mailed 2 additional letters to his wife from Texas. LE now believes CL may be hiding in Mexico.

 

[lkd-ga]

think the authorities in Lauterbach and Laurean's unit had a preconceived notion that Lauterbach was the unstable one of the pair. Even her mother seemed to perceive her as somewhat unstable. What nobody picked up on was that Laurean was completely evil, and was most likely planting the seed all along that she was an unreliable, hysterical drama queen in the minds of his workmates and their unit commanders. There's no excuse for the unit to have fallen for this ploy. They should know their soldiers better than this, especially the first sergeant should have.

I am sure with Laurean narcistic personality he had a full blow smear campaign going on about Maria. This is a classic charactristic of a narcistic person. It is always everyone else's faulty. He sees himself as superior to others and entitled to special treatment. Narcistic people are very good at manipulating the people around them and very good at fooling everyone. I think that allot of people were taken in by Laurean. I think that he had Maria
so emotionally upset she did not know what to do. All of this was a game to him. He had months to smear her character and he succeeded. This is why
he taught he could get away with what he did. From the note it sounds like she had enough of his games and she probably stood up to him. I think that lead to her murder. People like Laurean do not like to loose control. He was successfully juggling the rape charges, her and the wife. I think he had most everyone around him fooled and she did something to make his house of cards come tumbling down.

 

[STEADFAST]

I'd like to see the doctors report. hummm Is it a military doc?

Does anyone here honestly think a military doctor would fudge a pregnancy due date to protect an accused rapist?? I think the military bashing is getting out of hand. As a service member's wife, I'm insulted and astonished at the way so many are assuming that everybody on that base is some kind of . I've lived in the civilian world and the military world, and I can testify that the military community, on the whole, is WAY more honest, friendly, law-abiding, and justice-loving and family oriented than the civilian community. And I also know, as the wife of a member of military LE, that, far from protecting criminal service members, the military is likely to toss them into pretrial confinement if they even look crosseyed at anyone.

Oh, plus, most doctors on military bases are civilians. I've never even seen a doctor who is actually in the military.

 

[BrowneyedEmily]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=5894622

That has a bit more information about the possibility of Laurean being in Mexico. The Houston-addressed letters were sent to his wife.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

If anyone wants to read the memorials left for maria at www.respectance.com several childhood friends, and people that was enlisted with her have left memorial comments. Rachel Tilley's comment when I got to the last sentence, the sting of death got me.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

Hi Steadfast..I don't think she is bashing anything we are all just so curious and confused I guess. What branch is your hubby? We are Army and all our doctors are in the Army as well...They are all officers & most of our nurses are enlisted personal. My neighbor is a Col. and he is also my kids pediatrician.

Does anyone here honestly think a military doctor would fudge a pregnancy due date to protect an accused rapist?? I think the military bashing is getting out of hand. As a service member's wife, I'm insulted and astonished at the way so many are assuming that everybody on that base is some kind of . I've lived in the civilian world and the military world, and I can testify that the military community, on the whole, is WAY more honest, friendly, law-abiding, and justice-loving and family oriented than the civilian community. And I also know, as the wife of a member of military LE, that, far from protecting criminal service members, the military is likely to toss them into pretrial confinement if they even look crosseyed at anyone.

Oh, plus, most doctors on military bases are civilians. I've never even seen a doctor who is actually in the military.

 

[close_enough]

Fox talking about Christina now.

Nobody in the media knows where she is. Authorities do. She's safe. She's a cooperating witness. She knows how to reach them. They know how to reach her.

Authorities have no criminal evidence against her.

She is an active duty marine.

WTVD quoting LE sources saying CL mailed 2 additional letters to his wife from Texas. LE now believes CL may be hiding in Mexico.

ugh, i KNEW it...he's probably already made it to Mexico:furious:

 

[STEADFAST]

Hi Steadfast..I don't think she is bashing anything we are all just so curious and confused I guess. What branch is your hubby? We are Army and all our doctors are in the Army as well...They are all officers & most of our nurses are enlisted personal. My neighbor is a Col. and he is also my kids pediatrician.

Hey, MGS! My husband is in the Navy. He's a counselor ("thughugger") at a brig. Maybe medical doctors are more likely to join the Army than the Navy.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Does anyone here honestly think a military doctor would fudge a pregnancy due date to protect an accused rapist?? I think the military bashing is getting out of hand. As a service member's wife, I'm insulted and astonished at the way so many are assuming that everybody on that base is some kind of . I've lived in the civilian world and the military world, and I can testify that the military community, on the whole, is WAY more honest, friendly, law-abiding, and justice-loving and family oriented than the civilian community. And I also know, as the wife of a member of military LE, that, far from protecting criminal service members, the military is likely to toss them into pretrial confinement if they even look crosseyed at anyone.

Go read the memorials pages I just posted for Maria, read what the service men and women have to say, very interesting. My daddy is retired military, I have an awesome love, honor and respect for our armed forces. Human beings are enlisted, just like in society. Their not exempt from evil.

Storm, I know exactly when my little boy was conceived, yep. July 21, 1997 at 7:30 p.m. and what position too. He was born april 21 1998.

 

[close_enough]

My conception date for my last son (18 yrs ago) was April 12th (no doubt of the date) and he was born on Jan 23rd..
My 1st son was May 7 and he was born Feb 4th. (he's 35)
Interestingly enough, I have a son between the two (25)..have no idea his conception date, but he was born Feb 2nd..
17 yrs apart and all that close..
She could easily have had sex mid April on and be told she was due the end of Jan...even though I knew my conception date, the Dr gave me a due date of January 29th..he was born the 23rd and the Pediatrician said he was overdue and he could tell by the condition of his skin.
I would think by now that we'd have heard if she was seeing someone else..her mother may have known...at least Durham may have, if that someone existed.

i understand exactly what you're saying Storm, but Maria was not pregnant on May 11th per a pregnancy test....

 

[Taximom]

close, do we know if it was a urine or blood pregnancy test? The blood test would be the most accurate.

 

[close_enough]

Does anyone here honestly think a military doctor would fudge a pregnancy due date to protect an accused rapist?? I think the military bashing is getting out of hand. As a service member's wife, I'm insulted and astonished at the way so many are assuming that everybody on that base is some kind of . I've lived in the civilian world and the military world, and I can testify that the military community, on the whole, is WAY more honest, friendly, law-abiding, and justice-loving and family oriented than the civilian community. And I also know, as the wife of a member of military LE, that, far from protecting criminal service members, the military is likely to toss them into pretrial confinement if they even look crosseyed at anyone.

Oh, plus, most doctors on military bases are civilians. I've never even seen a doctor who is actually in the military.

NO, i think it's absurd to think the military would fudge her pregnancy test...i DO think that Maria might have told her family that she was due in January, instead of Feb, since that would make more sense with her rape allegation....