Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #7

[KR2tonenow]

I would not want MY baby to know he was the product of a rape if I decided to keep him. She LIED to protect her baby. This way he was an accident, a much nicer "beginning" than a rape. I think she was gonna let off the hook to protect Gabriel from ever knowing how he was conceived. A passionate one night stand with a handsome stranger is a much better story than a RAPE!

My Opinion

There's still conflict in my mind, with Maria stating she's was raped 2x. In the presser yesterday, they said Maria and Laurean carried on a "friendly relationship". What's really the truth? So based on that, how can we know if she didn't want that stigma, (we can certainly understand why), but with the conflicting information from the Mother stating she was a complusive liar and Bi-polar, I don't even trust the mother's word.

I think there may have been an affair there? Not sure. But still wondering why she voluntarily went to Laurean's house?

 

[KR2tonenow]

I would not want MY baby to know he was the product of a rape if I decided to keep him. She LIED to protect her baby. This way he was an accident, a much nicer "beginning" than a rape. I think she was gonna let off the hook to protect Gabriel from ever knowing how he was conceived. A passionate one night stand with a handsome stranger is a much better story than a RAPE!

My Opinion

There's still conflict in my mind, with Maria stating she's was raped 2x. In the presser yesterday, they said Maria and Laurean carried on a "friendly relationship". What's really the truth? So based on that, how can we know if she didn't want that stigma, (we can certainly understand why), but with the conflicting information from the Mother stating she was a complusive liar and Bi-polar, I don't even trust the mother's word.

I think there may have been an affair there? Not sure. But still wondering why she voluntarily went to Laurean's house?

 

[JinxieJada]

Good catch Jada! You would think the baby would at least be with her. Hmmmmm.

You would think! I would LOVE to find out what those letters stated! If they went to her - Either they were intercepted @ the house, OR she turned them into LE to "throw them off"

As in -

"Here officers, I'm not trying to hide him, Here's what he sent to me etc"

But again, why is her child NOT with her? Daddy is gone to who knows where, so she's gonna leave the child with NO parental unit? Im sure their daughter knows her family, and maybe I'm just selfish, but I would want my children around me at a time like this, for comfort's sake if that makes sense?

UNLESS she "cannot" have her child with her, and the only plausible reason for that is, she's in a facility somewhere that makes her unable to do so. I am a bit guilty at the moment of having tunnel vision about Xtina, so if someone else has a reason that makes sense...Please tell me!

 

[lkd-ga]

We all have so many questions about what really happened. Was she raped, when was the baby due, did she plan to go awol etc....... But the thing that
makes me believe that there is sometype of cover-up is this....

Why did Laurean murder her if the rape charges,and the fact that he was the father of the baby were not true. Supposely his wife already new about the rape allegation. He was never formally charged. He seemed to be successfull
in making everyone believe that she was unstable and nothing happen. So if he was not guilty of the charges why go to this extreme. Why not stay and fight the charges for his familes sake as well as his future career. This is what makes me think that everything she said was true.

 

[JinxieJada]

Why did Laurean murder her if the rape charges,and the fact that he was the father of the baby were not true. Supposely his wife already new about the rape allegation. He was never formally charged. He seemed to be successfull
in making everyone believe that she was unstable and nothing happen. So if he was not guilty of the charges why go to this extreme. Why not stay and fight the charges for his familes sake as well as his future career. This is what makes me think that everything she said was true.

One of my thoughts on this? IMO she was raped...more than once probably..If it was consensual so the hell what...BUT - Remember he DENIED ANY TYPE of involvement with her. Sooooo - when the military requested DNA after Gabriel's birth - well if he knew he was the daddy or the possibility was there...Now didn't he kind of perjur himself and could be brought up on charges of that as well as everything else?

(Run with me here) Dna says he's the daddy, he says he never had sex with her - so what'd she do, break into their house, and steal a used condom to impregnate herself?

I think that may be one scenario that explains what has occurred, not saying it's correct, right or giving the an excuse. Just saying maybe it's one scenario that answers why everything went as far as it did even after she supposedly recanted.

 

[SuziQ]

I think there may have been an affair there? Not sure. But still wondering why she voluntarily went to Laurean's house?[/quote]

We don't know how Maria ended up at Laurean's house do we?

 

[Mygirlsadie]

I been sitting here thinking what could of happened & the thoughts running through my mind are bringing tears to my eyes. I'm thinking here is this young pregnant girl who is in this house all alone and the two of them more or less ambushed her..how scared she must of been & that far along there was really nothing she could do to protect herself.

 

[lkd-ga]

One of my thoughts on this? IMO she was raped...more than once probably..If it was consensual so the hell what...BUT - Remember he DENIED ANY TYPE of involvement with her. Sooooo - when the military requested DNA after Gabriel's birth - well if he knew he was the daddy or the possibility was there...Now didn't he kind of perjur himself and could be brought up on charges of that as well as everything else?

(Run with me here) Dna says he's the daddy, he says he never had sex with her - so what'd she do, break into their house, and steal a used condom to impregnate herself?

I think that may be one scenario that explains what has occurred, not saying it's correct, right or giving the an excuse. Just saying maybe it's one scenario that answers why everything went as far as it did even after she supposedly recanted.

I understand what you are saying but I would think perjury charges and maybe a dishonorable discharge beats murder and living you life on the run. I think tht he did rape her. It might have been more like a date rape. Maybe she found him attractive and flirted with him some. They did work together so I am sure that they spent time together at work. She flirts with him at work and at the end of the day he thinks she was coming on to him and we have a date rape situation. He convience her that it was her fault she was flirting. She is questioning her responiablity of the rape and does not report it the 1st time. He thinks he got away with it and does it again. He conviences superiors that is was consentual sex and they put press on her and it makes her question agin if maybe she is responiable becasue she was flirting. He knows that he was wrong and to cover himself he starts his smear campaign of her. etc............. Maria and the baby is murdered.

 

[STEADFAST]

One of my thoughts on this? IMO she was raped...more than once probably..If it was consensual so the hell what...BUT - Remember he DENIED ANY TYPE of involvement with her. Sooooo - when the military requested DNA after Gabriel's birth - well if he knew he was the daddy or the possibility was there...Now didn't he kind of perjur himself and could be brought up on charges of that as well as everything else?

Plus, he could be tried for adultery by the military. Adultery, rape, hindering an investigation -- his career and marriage and even future chances of employment, would be screwed. Gee, why didn't he think of that before he raped her?

 

[JinxieJada]

I understand what you are saying but I would think perjury charges and maybe a dishonorable discharge beats murder and living you life on the run. I think tht he did rape her. It might have been more like a date rape. Maybe she found him attractive and flirted with him some. They did work together so I am sure that they spent time together at work. She flirts with him at work and at the end of the day he thinks she was coming on to him and we have a date rape situation. He convience her that it was her fault she was flirting. She is questioning her responiablity of the rape and does not report it the 1st time. He thinks he got away with it and does it again. He conviences superiors that is was consentual sex and they put press on her and it makes her question agin if maybe she is responiable becasue she was flirting. He knows that he was wrong and to cover himself he starts his smear campaign of her. etc............. Maria and the baby is murdered.

But he DENIED they had any type of sexual contact...therefore there was NO convincing needed to the superiors that it was consensual.

 

[JinxieJada]

Plus, he could be tried for adultery by the military. Adultery, rape, hindering an investigation -- his career and marriage and even future chances of employment, would be screwed. Gee, why didn't he think of that before he raped her?

All that stacked up with - losing face in the community, the constant reminder of his actions by having child support taken out of the check, heck, even possible visitation later on in life. That's ALOT of explaining to do, especially for someone who never had "that type" of contact with her.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm :waitasec:

 

[Seven]

Here's something else that makes me go Hmmmmmm...

from the Marine timeline:
“On November 5, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach moves into an off-base house, renting a room from Sgt Durham who is scheduled to deploy during late December and was looking for someone to rent his home while he was deployed. Additionally on this day, trial counsel re-interviews LCpl Lauterbach who readjusts her statement that her pregnancy is a result of the rape. However, she continues to maintain that she was raped by Cpl Laurean.”

Hmmmmm ….. So … on the the same day she was moving to a new place off base, she “readjusted her statement.”

Why so coy, boys? They were quite specific about what was reported when back in April 2007, but 7 months later (in November) they get mysterious with the descriptive language ….. Why did they not specify exactly what “adjustment” was made to her statement?

This question is magnified in significance when (again from the Marine timeline):

“On October 18, 2007, NCIS recommends no disciplinary action be initiated on the alleged rape until forensic evidence DNA can be retrieved from the child. Cpl Laurean denied having any sexual contact with LCpl Lauterbach and this was believed to be significant evidence.”

There’s a lot of food for thought in that little paragraph:
1. Cesar’s statement --> “significant evidence.”
2. Maria’s statement --> (10/18) ‘No action until we test the baby's DNA.’
3. 11/05 (2-1/2 weeks later AND on same day she’s moving): M “adjusts” statement, but still claims C raped her.

Hmmmmm ..... What does that combo mean to you? :waitasec:
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[lkd-ga]

I finally have the info on where Christina was from. She is from Prospect Oh
and Maria grew up in Vandalia. These 2 towns are about 80 miles apart with Vandalia being right outside of Dayton. It is possible the 2 could have know some of the same people. Also, Christina's Grandfather practiced law in the Prospect area. I bet Christina has some excellant legal advise from family.

 

[lkd-ga]

There’s a lot of food for thought in that little paragraph:
1. Cesar’s statement --> “significant evidence.”
2. Maria’s statement --> (10/18) ‘No action until we test the baby's DNA.’
3. 11/05 (2-1/2 weeks later AND on same day she’s moving): M “adjusts” statement, but still claims C raped her.

I can see where it looks bias. Just like Military stating the Laurean had a "Stellar" record

 

[jennyjwv]

gosh what if they actually knew each other - if christina played sports she may have know maria thru that if their schools played each other - that would be weird!

 

[lkd-ga]

gosh what if they actually knew each other - if christina played sports she may have know maria thru that if their schools played each other - that would be weird!

Prospect is a very small town and I would think that people from there would go to Dayton for jobs, shopping, medical care. Vandalia seem to be a suburb
of Dayton so it is possible.

 

[jennyjwv]

could they ahve possible been recruited into the marines by the same place in ohio???

 

[lkd-ga]

could they ahve possible been recruited into the marines by the same place in ohio???

It is possible.

 

[jennyjwv]

this is getting really weird - let's say was friends w/christine, i would doubt she tell her about her wonderful husband's actions - maybe she had enough and went over there to spill the beans since it was getting close to her due date and she just couldn't hold it in anymore - and if that was cesar that used her bank card on 12/24 that was only $400 that will not get you very far - where else could he have gotten money? did they check his account activity prior to his disappearance??

 

[Seven]

Another “hmmmmmm” moment from LeJeune timeline:

“On Monday, December 17, 2007 . . . The command requests permission to list LCpl Lauterbach as a deserter in order to release a DD553 to apprehend her. This was an extraordinary step taken in hope of having her returned so the command could ensure she was receiving the proper medical care. Basically, with a DD553, federal resources could be used to assist in locating her.”

So, on the very first day she doesnt show up for work, they declare her a "deserter" ....... however, in the presser yesterday, the spokesman did not mention Command having listed Laurean as a deserter and releasing a DD553 to apprehend him. And he didnt show up for work on 01/11 ... 5 days ago!

Hmmmmmm …. I wonder why or why not? :waitasec: