Missing cell phones

[jadejazzkayla]

I have a pay as you go phone and if you pay cash, there's no credit/debit card number required.

Yes, there has to be a name attached to the number. It could be an alias name, but I would think LE has asked Debbie for all of her phone numbers. Also I'm sure LE has contacted all the of the family's associates so they could ascertain the phone numbers Debbie and Jeremy used.

bbm...what pre-paid carrier do you have that required you to attach a name to the number and how did you go about giving the carrier a name?

 

[Abby Normal]

My THEORY is that the cell phone Debbie connected with was a "no contract" "prepaid" cell phone and is not traceable because there is no name connected with it. These phones also send and receive text messages. I also think Debbie got the extra phone from the day before so she could use that phone for certain communications that would be stored on that phone, not her own. MOO.

See, but if you're going to buy a prepaid phone with no name connected to use for premeditated wrong-doings, why would you even say you had three phones? Why not throw that one away and leave your regular two phones? THAT would have been a normal human process for a premeditated crime. Not buying it for that purpose, then admitting to having more phones for them to search for, and then disposing of all three. :waitasec:

We're trying to make sense of something that can't make any sense without all the details thought :crazy:

 

[panthera]

Not to belabour the obvious, but on the first night her husband is away working the night shift...

The very first night he is away and mom is all alone...

Mom didn't keep a phone by her bed in case he tried to call or something went wrong?

According to the report on Judge Jeanine's program last night, the phones were always kept on the kitchen counter. Yes, if true, a lot of good that does in an emergency.

MOO

 

[gliving]

bbm...what pre-paid carrier do you have that required you to attach a name to the number and how did you go about giving the carrier a name?

Well, since I have nothing to hide, I created an account on the tracfone website.
It's been over a year, so I'm sure I don't have the correct details. Couldn't one just use a alias name? Do you have a name attached to yours? Tell me more, I'm confused. TIA

 

[marge_rita]

Not to belabour the obvious, but on the first night her husband is away working the night shift...

The very first night he is away and mom is all alone...

Mom didn't keep a phone by her bed in case he tried to call or something went wrong?

:gthanks:

 

[vlpate]

clu, I can buy a minutes card at Radio Shack and pay cash. Use the phone to register the minute card number and it's all good to go. No debit card needed.

Aside, Tracfones have good promo codes for extra minutes. Google 'tracfone promo code"!

Do the tracphones have video capability? Deborah uploaded video of the baby to youtube - either she has a video camera, or a smart phone - at least one would have been anyway - the broken one.

Then there's the phone her grandmother had just given her - it would have been her same provider or a tracphone? Doesn't make sense - don't you have to have your original tracphone to load minutes?

Why would JI leave his personal cell at home? I know he had the company phone, but I wonder how long he had been carrying it. Did DB already know his number?

 

[gliving]

Do the tracphones have video capability? Deborah uploaded video of the baby to youtube - either she has a video camera, or a smart phone - at least one would have been anyway - the broken one.

Then there's the phone her grandmother had just given her - it would have been her same provider or a tracphone? Doesn't make sense - don't you have to have your original tracphone to load minutes?

Why would JI leave his personal cell at home? I know he had the company phone, but I wonder how long he had been carrying it. Did DB already know his number?

http://www.tracfone.com/phones.jsp

One can get different phones. I confess my phone lives on it's charger, I don't take it with me and I've never slept next it. I still use my landline. I'm so 1990's!

Slipping away from this thread as I'm so old fashioned. LOL

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Why would LE do that? They could just tell him that without putting it out in the media.

Hypothetically, it could be because there is some perception among the personnel working this case that JI would view any information from LE as untrustworthy. If he was skeptical of LE's motives in telling him this (trying to sow distrust between him and D), not only would the phone info not have the desired effect, but it could backfire by further undermining JI's trust in LE. This could possibly be avoided if the info's source is left unkown, leaving it up to JI to ask the questions we are asking now...Is it true? What's the source and is it reliable? Etc.

 

[vlpate]

http://www.tracfone.com/phones.jsp

One can get different phones. I confess my phone lives on it's charger, I don't take it with me and I've never slept next it. I still use my landline. I'm so 1990's!

Slipping away from this thread as I'm so old fashioned. LOL

Funny!

I had no idea there was such a variety. Thanks for the link!

 

[Kat]

If we can only discuss things that have been reported or confirmed by LE this is going to be a real short convo JMHO :sheesh:

 

[pferrin]

Not to belabour the obvious, but on the first night her husband is away working the night shift...

The very first night he is away and mom is all alone...

Mom didn't keep a phone by her bed in case he tried to call or something went wrong?

That is just too logical ....for this case anyway.

Hubster was a firefighter and when he was home we kept phone on chargers on counter..but when he went to work I slept with the cell next to me and the scanner on half the nite.

Electricians can have accidents seems to me she would have wanted phone close by. IMO

 

[jadejazzkayla]

Well, since I have nothing to hide, I created an account on the tracfone website.
It's been over a year, so I'm sure I don't have the correct details. Couldn't one just use a alias name? Do you have a name attached to yours? Tell me more, I'm confused. TIA

When you created your online account - I guess they asked for your name.
If you didn't create an online account - they wouldn't have your name attached to it. does this make sense?

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Regarding the prepaid disposable cell phone in my theory, I am saying the accomplice had this type of phone, and that LE does not know who this person is yet.

 

[Lovespasta]

If this was the first time alone at night, I would have my phone and I would go around and make sure the house is locked up tight. I would keep a few lights on. Especially since they already had someone vandalize the car.

 

[Cher352]

bbm...what pre-paid carrier do you have that required you to attach a name to the number and how did you go about giving the carrier a name?

Both my teen & I have T-mobile pre pays. At the time I bought them you had to call to get them activated. On my phone when I called I know they asked for name & email address but can't remember if they asked for more, could have if has been several years. On my teens they also had his street address as he bought the phone from their website.

 

[vlpate]

See, but if you're going to buy a prepaid phone with no name connected to use for premeditated wrong-doings, why would you even say you had three phones? Why not throw that one away and leave your regular two phones? THAT would have been a normal human process for a premeditated crime. Not buying it for that purpose, then admitting to having more phones for them to search for, and then disposing of all three. :waitasec:

We're trying to make sense of something that can't make any sense without all the details thought :crazy:

DB's grandfather said DB's grandmother gave her the extra phone because her phone was broken.

 

[Abby Normal]

If this was the first time alone at night, I would have my phone and I would go around and make sure the house is locked up tight. I would keep a few lights on. Especially since they already had someone vandalize the car.

Unless she was a single mama in between partners. When you are alone a lot, you really do get used to it and it becomes NBD.

 

[anothersheart71]

Just a thought...did I read somewhere that they have Sprint PCS? I live in MO as well and have Sprint too.....there are MANY times when my text messages do not come through until several hours later....just happened this week....Wednesday a girl from college text me twice around 8 pm.....guess when I got the texts?....Thursday afternoon at 4pm....I knew they were coming as we had class together on Thursday at 9am and she was irked that I hadn't text her back to answer her question....could something like this have occurred with regards to the 2:30 text/call? just another thing to consider.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

Both my teen & I have T-mobile pre pays. At the time I bought them you had to call to get them activated. On my phone when I called I know they asked for name & email address but can't remember if they asked for more, could have if has been several years. On my teens they also had his street address as he bought the phone from their website.

I'm wondering if your name and email address were actually required - or they asked and you gave it to them - like check-out people who ask for your phone number or zip code. just thinking out loud.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Just a thought...did I read somewhere that they have Sprint PCS? I live in MO as well and have Sprint too.....there are MANY times when my text messages do not come through until several hours later....just happened this week....Wednesday a girl from college text me twice around 8 pm.....guess when I got the texts?....Thursday afternoon at 4pm....I knew they were coming as we had class together on Thursday at 9am and she was irked that I hadn't text her back to answer her question....could something like this have occurred with regards to the 2:30 text/call? just another thing to consider.

I can vouch that this happens with AT&T as well. It can be very inconvenient, as I have received texts a couple times in the middle of the night that I knew from the context must've been sent much earlier.