Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #7

[cherrymeg]

With the fact they had probably had a little to drink and didn’t leave Janelle’s until after 2am and wouldn’t reach Suzie’s until nearly 3am and up at 8am why go to all that hassle of going home unless there was a specific reason?

I find it mind boggling that after a heavy night of partying the plan was to meet up so early. From the sounds of though this is just Janelle’s version so who knows if there is generally any truth in what she was said.

I would love to know if Suzie was encouraged to go home as part of some kind of a rouse and she asked Stacey to go and she surprising agreed to the plan which signed Stacey’s death warrant.

It's not crazy that they would have plans early to get to a water park. It makes a lot more sense if you are all leaving from the same house. If someone just wanted to get rid of Suzie they wouldn't have needed to hurt her mom or Stacy. They could have lured her away from the parties and made it look like she wandered off and disappeared. If it was about the trial, they could have killed her at another time. It's much easier and less suspicious if a high school grad goes missing after a night of parties or goes missing at some other point, than three women disappearing when they weren't even supposed to be together that night. Possibly Stacy and Suzie were better friends Mrs. McCall believes.

 

[flute4peace]

With the mention of Suzie's tummy-ache and not wanting to be alone - could she have been pregnant? Afraid to tell her mom? Afraid of baby-daddy?

 

[cherrymeg]

With the mention of Suzie's tummy-ache and not wanting to be alone - could she have been pregnant? Afraid to tell her mom? Afraid of baby-daddy?

Is it even clear she was sick? I believe most of what happened has come from Janelle and her friends. Not feeling good can be an excuse to leave a place you aren't comfortable at. Suzie wouldn't have been alone at her house her mom was there. I think the "Stacy just went with her because she felt bad" is coming from people like Mrs. McCall that didn't seem to care for Suzie. Is there any reason or did anyone suspect she was pregnant?

 

[asyousay]

It's not crazy that they would have plans early to get to a water park. It makes a lot more sense if you are all leaving from the same house. If someone just wanted to get rid of Suzie they wouldn't have needed to hurt her mom or Stacy. They could have lured her away from the parties and made it look like she wandered off and disappeared. If it was about the trial, they could have killed her at another time. It's much easier and less suspicious if a high school grad goes missing after a night of parties or goes missing at some other point, than three women disappearing when they weren't even supposed to be together that night. Possibly Stacy and Suzie were better friends Mrs. McCall believes.

Maybe they was worried that Suzie had confided in her mum and if Suzie vanished alone then Sherrill would blab about what she knew ?!


Sherrill to me doesn’t make sense as the victim of a sexual attack gone wrong as surely there would be some kind of evidence in her bedroom to indicate that there had been a sexual assault.

It makes a lot more sense that Suzie was the target and unfortunately Stacey happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Which is why the kidnapping happened after Suzie and Stacey got home.

If this was about Sherrill there was about 2 and a half hours window of her being alone from the last phone call. If somebody strange was in that house when the two girls got home Cinnamon would of also been off as Janelle said that when they went to look around the house that morning Cinamon was acting off and wanted to be held and cuddled.

She would of behaved the same way that night if there was a stranger in the house. Yet the girls got ready for bed and even switched the tv on which would indicate to me nobody was in that home that shouldn’t of been when they got home.


IMO

 

[cherrymeg]

Maybe they was worried that Suzie had confided in her mum and if Suzie vanished alone then Sherrill would blab about what she knew ?!


Sherrill to me doesn’t make sense as the victim of a sexual attack gone wrong as surely there would be some kind of evidence in her bedroom to indicate that there had been a sexual assault.

It makes a lot more sense that Suzie was the target and unfortunately Stacey happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Which is why the kidnapping happened after Suzie and Stacey got home.

If this was about Sherrill there was about 2 and a half hours window of her being alone from the last phone call. If somebody strange was in that house when the two girls got home Cinnamon would of also been off as Janelle said that when they went to look around the house that morning Cinamon was acting off and wanted to be held and cuddled.

She would of behaved the same way that night if there was a stranger in the house. Yet the girls got ready for bed and even switched the tv on which would indicate to me nobody was in that home that shouldn’t of been when they got home.


IMO

I still question if the girls made it to the Levitt/Streeter home. If something had already happened to the girls and other people drove their cars to Sherrill's house. If there was noise and she was up or woken up she might have looked out a window and saw her daughters car and come out to make sure everything was okay. It would have been easy to abduct her then. That's just a thought I had.

 

[asyousay]

I still question if the girls made it to the Levitt/Streeter home. If something had already happened to the girls and other people drove their cars to Sherrill's house. If there was noise and she was up or woken up she might have looked out a window and saw her daughters car and come out to make sure everything was okay. It would have been easy to abduct her then. That's just a thought I had.

You could be right as originally I wasn’t convinced the girls made it back and the house could of easily of been staged. But it’s in a quote I found earlier LE said they found a finger print from Stacey on the front door which would indicate they made it back.

 

[asyousay]

This quote is from thread 3

Jannelle talks about her relationship with the girls... well here it is..."I did stuff with Suzie. I did stuff with Stacy and we did things together." Janelle says NOW. "It was the VERY FIRST time the two (Suzie and Stacy) had done something together, without me or other without other friends."

Janelle is 18/19 I don’t get why she was so obviously threatened by Stacey and Suzie hanging out together?


Then we have her disdainfully referring to Suzie as “that other girl” at 2.02 mins in

I don’t get the feeling that Janelle was actually friends with Suzie as that’s not how you talk about a “friend” days after they have been kidnapped.

 

[cherrymeg]

This quote is from thread 3



Janelle is 18/19 I don’t get why she was so obviously threatened by Stacey and Suzie hanging out together?


Then we have her disdainfully referring to Suzie as “that other girl” at 2.02 mins in

I don’t get the feeling that Janelle was actually friends with Suzie as that’s not how you talk about a “friend” days after they have been kidnapped.

It's possible they had a fight. She could have felt left out as Suzie and Stacy started getting closer. Her attitude towards their friendship and clear dismissal of Suzie comes off as jealous. Even if they had a fight that doesn't mean anyone died then. Distancing herself from Suzie could be a way to direct attention away from herself or mutual friends of Janelle, Suzie, and Stacy. Minimizing Stacy and Suzie's friendship adds to the idea that Suzie or her family where the targets.

 

[Catmommy]

Just thinking about it, If both girls had been partying hard and both wanted to drive their own cars, it's possible that someone did knowingly follow them to Sherrill's " to make certain they got home alright". We use to do that for each other when we knew we were inebriated - follow each other to make certain the most messed up got home okay.

 

[Catmommy]

Thinking that person had left it would be natural to peek out the blinds and let them in if you saw they were on the front stoop. No signs of forced entry ? Someone knew and trusted the unknown subject/subjects.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

"Minimizing Stacy and Suzie's friendship adds to the idea that Suzie or her family where the targets."

I hadn't thought of it that way. I think you may be onto something here....I don't mean to be obtuse but why would Janelle want people to think Suzie and Sherrill were the targets? Whatever her purpose, it had to do with Janelle coming out on the high end. She just comes off so....cold.

Just last week a man, who had just murdered his wife and 2 little girls, stand out on his front porch, and lied like a dog..... so just because someone voluntarily does a live interview...doesn't mean they're innocent.

I can't get over the feeling that they'd all be alive today if Suzie had not gone to those parties with Stacy, Janelle and Mike (the bf).

 

[Missouri Mule]

Missouri mule is there a connection between Mike , Janelle and the grave robbers?

You have researched this case throughly from
top to bottom so I really want to know in such a small town did Mike know or had any dealings with the grave robbers?

Not to my knowledge.

 

[Missouri Mule]

You are entitled to your opinion as I am.

 

[Missouri Mule]

With the mention of Suzie's tummy-ache and not wanting to be alone - could she have been pregnant? Afraid to tell her mom? Afraid of baby-daddy?

That is a viable motive.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I’m not here very often but I am more convinced than not that so one has broken silence in 26 years. That leads me to believe it was a single male kidnapper.

I just can’t wrap my mind that the others had something to do with this with the possible exception of Robert Cox. Why concoct a false alibi when he didn’t need one? If his DNA was in the house it couldn’t be explained away. So he still a possible.

As to the others I rule them out.

 

[cherrymeg]

I’m not here very often but I am more convinced than not that so one has broken silence in 26 years. That leads me to believe it was a single male kidnapper.

I just can’t wrap my mind that the others had something to do with this with the possible exception of Robert Cox. Why concoct a false alibi when he didn’t need one? If his DNA was in the house it couldn’t be explained away. So he still a possible.

As to the others I rule them out.

People can keep secrets. Things like fear and self preservation shouldn't be underestimated. There also could be people that suspect or heard rumors and didn't feel like getting involved. There are a lot of theories and then different versions of how or why the girls left a party. Questioning people again that went to school with Stacy and Suzie and maybe attended a party they were at couldn't hurt. I'm curious why it's been said that 15 or 20 people (I don't think they meant police) where in the Levitt/Streeter house when no one was home. Also if that's true hopefully everyone was interviewed by the police.

 

[Talullah]

I think 26 years is enough time for someone who’d committed a serious crime as a teenager to learn to live with what they’d done, especially if they’re successful with families of their own, and easier still if they left Springfield.
The idea of a serial killer or a stalker had be more appealing to local LE than home town teenagers-some they could’ve known personally. No one wants to believe a seemingly normal teenager is evil but it’s certainly possible.
The serial killers I’ve heard and read about just don’t trigger the same alarm bells as the last people who saw Suzie and Stacy.

 

[cherrymeg]

I think 26 years is enough time for someone who’d committed a serious crime as a teenager to learn to live with what they’d done, especially if they’re successful with families of their own, and easier still if they left Springfield.
The idea of a serial killer or a stalker had be more appealing to local LE than home town teenagers-some they could’ve known personally. No one wants to believe a seemingly normal teenager is evil but it’s certainly possible.
The serial killers I’ve heard and read about just don’t trigger the same alarm bells as the last people who saw Suzie and Stacy.

The People around the person/s that committed this crime might feel differently now. They would be adults and things that didn't seem important could have a new meaning. Also things that seemed important like fear, loyalty or being branded as a snitch might not be factors anymore. Having kids of your own or moving out of the area could be things that make people more willing to talk.

 

[asyousay]

I’m not here very often but I am more convinced than not that so one has broken silence in 26 years. That leads me to believe it was a single male kidnapper.

I just can’t wrap my mind that the others had something to do with this with the possible exception of Robert Cox. Why concoct a false alibi when he didn’t need one? If his DNA was in the house it couldn’t be explained away. So he still a possible.

As to the others I rule them out.

If his DNA was in that house and bearing in mind he has been in Niall forever then his DNA would be on record and this case would of been solved years ago.


Also the police seemed to think there were move than one person involved if I am reading their statements correctly.

Also the fact of no forced entry would indicate they let whoever did this in that night imo

I saw a friend of Suzie’s say Sherrill was a very strict mum and if somebody called Suzie after 10pm she wouldn’t let her take the call and was safety conscience.

From reading how safety conscious Sherrill was she would never of opened that door to strangers that night even if somebody had tried to smash the bulb to get them to open the door at 4am.

IMO

 

[Ozoner]

Thinking that person had left it would be natural to peek out the blinds and let them in if you saw they were on the front stoop. No signs of forced entry ? Someone knew and trusted the unknown subject/subjects.

EBM
Not necessarily. The women might simply have left the door unlocked; the intruder might have waltzed right in. It could also be that the women were lured outside. If Sherrill was the only one at the house, she might have answered the door without verifying who was knocking, assuming it was Suzi arriving home.