Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #7

[Brubeck]

Someone asked if anyone had been in touch with any principals. I’ve had many discussions with Bartt and Mike along with many others. Garrison called my home one morning. I don’t think he or the others had anything to do with it.

Personally, I think these are dry holes. If I had any sway I would recommend extensive discussions with a single male who was described as the “kidnapper.”

I interpret that to mean one male person. I know such an individual and assume the police know as well.

I rule out the kids, the grave robbers, and the so-called “Grand Jury 3.” I don’t see Bartt kidnapping his own mother and sister.

Truth is that we are running out of suspects and no known motive.

I think it was one male who carried out the whole crime. I also believe he has posted here in the past. But that is my personal opinion. I could be entirely wrong and only care that the crime is solved.

Mr. Mule, do you think Bart played any role in it? And your Doyle quote, is there an improbabl e truth to be found in the solution to this case, do you think? (And if so what? THANKS!

 

[Talullah]

Referring to Suzie as “that other girl,” showing up and hanging out in her house after no one answered, answering the phone twice and who knows what else seems like
bully behavior. It’s pushy and disrespectful. If Janelle was so concerned she hung around, why not call Mrs. McCall or alert someone? What did a day at a different water park than they’d planned to attend accomplish?

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I just spotted another inconsistency with Janelle’s story. For some reason it’s only just hit me.

Stacey’s purse was lined with the other purses so why would Stacey of left behind her purse with her money and cards in it. This is something that should of hit Janelle in the face straight away along with her car and her clothing being in the bedroom. So according to Janelle’s logic that morning - Stacey left that house with no money/purse, no footwear, no car and no shorts.

How many passes is Janelle allowed before her entire story should be looked over?!


ETA - Mike also picked up Janelle that morning so I wonder if he has alibi as he didn’t spend the night at Janelle’s house.

You would think, wouldn't you? Her story does not 'add up'...I don't know if she participated but it's difficult for me to believe none of 'kids' have any idea what happened that fateful night/early morning. The women did not get 'beamed' up by Scotty.
This case can be solved.

 

[Catmommy]

One person responsible. After ALL this time if more than one person was involved the odds are phenomenal that somebody would have flapped their jaws by now. Just the way of the world.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Referring to Suzie as “that other girl,” showing up and hanging out in her house after no one answered, answering the phone twice and who knows what else seems like
bully behavior. It’s pushy and disrespectful. If Janelle was so concerned she hung around, why not call Mrs. McCall or alert someone? What did a day at a different water park than they’d planned to attend accomplish

Bingo! Yes.... 'bullying'....someone did mention 'frienemy'.
Her words did not fit her actions.
Queen bee perhaps? Angry? Jealous?
Gotta admit....Stacy was gorgeous and Suzie was cute as a button.
I still get a better 'vibe' from Suzie's friend Nigel....if Suzie had hung out w/ Nigel that night...I'm willing to bet...this never would have happened.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

One person responsible. After ALL this time if more than one person was involved the odds are phenomenal that somebody would have flapped their jaws by now. Just the way of the world.

There was a case 'solved' not that long ago where a dozen people kept quiet for many, many years...they all knew the perps who committed the crime.

 

[Talullah]

Suzie, Stacy and Janelle allegedly had plans to go to a water park. Janelle’s calls went unanswered. She said she thought they went without her. Most people would’ve found something else to do but Janell had her boyfriend drive her to Sherrill’s where they hung out, swept up glass and answered her phone twice.
Bullies don’t respect boundaries. If she nor
Mike had been to Sherrill’s, they crossed a few. Did Janelle intend to confront them? Did she really want to hang out with people she believed ignored her calls or stood her up? I don’t understand the point of her trip.

 

[Catmommy]

There was a case 'solved' not that long ago where a dozen people kept quiet for many, many years...they all knew the perps who committed the crime.

There is always an exception to the norm. And we know this isn't the norm. No harm in pointing that out though. Truth is unless and until somebody talks it is very unlikely this mystery will ever be solved. The lack of physical evidence, if only due to contamination of the scene alone, is astounding.

 

[Talullah]

I think after all this time if anyone was going to talk they would have. If it was carried out by a younger person/people they’re busy with their lives. There’d be no reason to grow a conscience and confess, when they have way more to lose than 26 years ago.

 

[asyousay]

Someone asked if anyone had been in touch with any principals. I’ve had many discussions with Bartt and Mike along with many others. Garrison called my home one morning. I don’t think he or the others had anything to do with it.

Personally, I think these are dry holes. If I had any sway I would recommend extensive discussions with a single male who was described as the “kidnapper.”

I interpret that to mean one male person. I know such an individual and assume the police know as well.

I rule out the kids, the grave robbers, and the so-called “Grand Jury 3.” I don’t see Bartt kidnapping his own mother and sister.

Truth is that we are running out of suspects and no known motive.

I think it was one male who carried out the whole crime. I also believe he has posted here in the past. But that is my personal opinion. I could be entirely wrong and only care that the crime is solved.

I struggle with one person pulling this off as it was too risky.

I also struggle with one male stranger doing this for sexual pleasure because if Sherrill was the target then surely the perp had enough time to rape and hurt her before the girls got home and yet there is no sign of that.

If Sherrill was the intended target let’s not forget nobody knew the girls were due back that night so why would this person not just rape her in her bed and make a get away?

I still think Suzie was followed from the party that night as time was running out with the trial a week away.

The fact that one of the grave robbers openly and angrily said he hoped all 3 was dead to me shows they was fully capable of being involved in this. The fact Stacey has no bearing on his little gang of criminals and had no part in him being arrested why would he wish her dead unless she had screwed up their plan that night?!

I find it very telling he had a grudge against a person who as far as we aware had no dealings with him whatsoever. So why wish her dead?

 

[k-mac]

Someone asked if anyone had been in touch with any principals. I’ve had many discussions with Bartt and Mike along with many others. Garrison called my home one morning. I don’t think he or the others had anything to do with it.

Personally, I think these are dry holes. If I had any sway I would recommend extensive discussions with a single male who was described as the “kidnapper.”

I interpret that to mean one male person. I know such an individual and assume the police know as well.

I rule out the kids, the grave robbers, and the so-called “Grand Jury 3.” I don’t see Bartt kidnapping his own mother and sister.

Truth is that we are running out of suspects and no known motive.

I think it was one male who carried out the whole crime. I also believe he has posted here in the past. But that is my personal opinion. I could be entirely wrong and only care that the crime is solved.

yes yes
do tell the people Missouri mule how you rule out all these people,specifically the grave robbers??

don't worry I can

he"allegedly' spoke to one of the grave robbers ( assuming mike but hey according to mm hes spoken to everyone) and guess what.
the grave robber told him he had nothing to do with it and believes it was a lone kidnapper!!

so thats it then according to Missouri mule...none of these people are viable suspects because the 'suspects' told him so

 

[k-mac]

I struggle with one person pulling this off as it was too risky.

I also struggle with one male stranger doing this for sexual pleasure because if Sherrill was the target then surely the perp had enough time to rape and hurt her before the girls got home and yet there is no sign of that.

If Sherrill was the intended target let’s not forget nobody knew the girls were due back that night so why would this person not just rape her in her bed and make a get away?

I still think Suzie was followed from the party that night as time was running out with the trial a week away.

The fact that one of the grave robbers openly and angrily said he hoped all 3 was dead to me shows they was fully capable of being involved in this. The fact Stacey has no bearing on his little gang of criminals and had no part in him being arrested why would he wish her dead unless she had screwed up their plan that night?!

I find it very telling he had a grudge against a person who as far as we aware had no dealings with him whatsoever. So why wish her dead?

I agree
cant shake the feeling there is a clear connection to all the trial stuff, graduation and childhood loyalties

 

[k-mac]

k-mac
I wish I could remember where exactly I read about stacy's blood spot.I believe that if I will start to read all the 6 threads again including all thread 7 in order to search regarding the blood spot.. Until I finish, the case might be probably resolved



I can't imagine the horror ,especially when we know that both Stacy and Suzie were ready to go to bad and hell just burst in surprise.

I think the key to solve the case is found by the police and this is the name of the only person who failed the polygraph , the release of his name can bring tips and maybe people will talk.

There is a possibility that the police almost sure that this person is one of the perps or one of the people who had connection to the perps,
This is why after 26 years it's time to go ahead and say to the press and to the public who is that person, to think that the police actually maybe had already one of the criminals in her hands and this person was released to continue in his life and enjoy from freedom and family lives when the Sherrill, Stacy and Suzie can't... that's unbearable.

A pressure on the police from the families and from the public might bring the police to finally release the person name, then I believe this case will have a huge boost that might lead to Justice and Closure.

MooseMeMuch, I understand that kickapoo is a High School in Springfield? , I am not from there, I am From a very distant continent, My high school was in Tel Aviv ,the city where I live

hi bluegirl
thanks for getting in touch.
yes I understand the bogging down of the threads with so much pointless jargon makes it extremely difficult to refer back to things.
I was so hoping you could point us to a source or direction about the blood.
anyway lets keep an ear to the ground about it.

 

[asyousay]

Missouri mule is there a connection between Mike , Janelle and the grave robbers?

You have researched this case throughly from
top to bottom so I really want to know in such a small town did Mike know or had any dealings with the grave robbers?

 

[MooseMeMuch]

yes yes
do tell the people Missouri mule how you rule out all these people,specifically the grave robbers??

don't worry I can

he"allegedly' spoke to one of the grave robbers ( assuming mike but hey according to mm hes spoken to everyone) and guess what.
the grave robber told him he had nothing to do with it and believes it was a lone kidnapper!!

so thats it then according to Missouri mule...none of these people are viable suspects because the 'suspects' told him so

BRAVO K-Mac........what irritates me the most is the negativity.
This case CAN be solved.
Negativity and know-it-all attitude solves nothing.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Anybody can speak to 'Mike' one of the grave robbers.....he's on the FB group.......
The Three Missing Women - Sherrill Levitt - Suzie Streeter - Stacy McCall

Along with him: Janis McCall and Janelle Kirby

Also: if you can get on an offenders "Call List" they can call you. (Oh boy!)

The case CAN be solved.

Cold Justice......

 

[asyousay]

Anybody can speak to 'Mike' one of the grave robbers.....he's on the FB group.......
The Three Missing Women - Sherrill Levitt - Suzie Streeter - Stacy McCall

Along with him: Janis McCall and Janelle Kirby

Also: if you can get on an offenders "Call List" they can call you. (Oh boy!)

The case CAN be solved.

Cold Justice......

I have been reading old threads from different forums and I find it very suspicious that two out of the 3 grave robbers left town within days of the 3 women going missing.

Dustin Recla, 20, and Joseph Riedel, 21, were bound over for
arraignment on charges of felony institutional vandalism. Recla is
scheduled for arraignment Friday. Riedel's is scheduled for Sept.
25.
Michael Clay, 19, did not appear. He apparently jumped bail and
left for California, where he was arrested last week for hitchhiking

Riedel left town for Illinois shortly after the women vanished from
Levitt's 1717 E. Delmar St. house on June 7. He was arrested there,
and returned to Springfield a month ago. He remains in jail in
connection with the Feb. 21 mausoleum break-in at Maple Park
Cemetery

 

[asyousay]

Also this quote stands out

Janelle Kirby: …says she wishes everyone knew how close and casual
their relationships were.

Maybe then they'd understand what seems to be a problem for many
people and a few police: Why Janelle and other friends entered
Streeter and Sherrill Levitt's home that Sunday morning, cleaned up
broken glass, hung around, snacked on their chips and dip and fed
and walked Levitt's dog.

"That's how we grew up," Kirby says. "If we knew someone was home,
we'd just walk on in. That's just how comfortable we felt around
each other

Maybe this is a a American thing but in the UK close but casual makes no sense. How can you be close to a person but it also be casual? - is this normal in the U.S?

I have really close friends and then I have casual friends who I may contact once a month. But with my close friends I’m in constant contact with.


But nobody was home so why is she trying to justify her unexplainable behaviour that day!!

 

[Talullah]

I don’t understand why Janelle had Mike take her to Sherrill’s if she thought Suzie and Stacy were avoiding her and had stood her up. Why would she want to hang out with people who, on the surface, didn’t want to hang out with her? It makes no sense and she seems confrontational.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I don’t understand why Janelle had Mike take her to Sherrill’s if she thought Suzie and Stacy were avoiding her and had stood her up. Why would she want to hang out with people who, on the surface, didn’t want to hang out with her? It makes no sense and she seems confrontational.

wow...I agree...bully and confrontational. Her words and actions do not 'match up'.