"Mistatements" and/or Lies by Cindy & George

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Great post Chiquita! I noticed that GA managed to twice state, in the exact same words, that "my daughter is a separate issue"...

"We're looking for Caylee, don't look at my daughter" is a weird message IMO.

Yes. He and Cindy were both giving separate interviews and they both had the same message. I'm not here to talk about Casey. We just want the world to know we are looking for a missing chld. Cindy said hers with "i'm running on fumes, so be gentle with me."

And I love the post, Chiquita!!
 
Great post Chiquita! I noticed that GA managed to twice state, in the exact same words, that "my daughter is a separate issue"...

"We're looking for Caylee, don't look at my daughter" is a weird message IMO.

Quote Respect ynotdivein :)

Thank you, George does state that Casey is a separate issue from Caylee, twice as you point out. Weird message I agree. Deep inside he does not trust what Casey has said is true and that is why he says they are "hoping" Caylee was "with a friend," someone his daughter knows. Casey told him that Caylee was with someone she knew, Zanny. If he believed Casey there would be no need for him(them)to be hoping Caylee was with someone Casey knew.

I think even George knew better than to try to sort out what Casey had told everyone, he had been down that 'hallway' before with Casey and knew if there was any chance of getting Caylee back it was best to go over Casey's head and make Casey a "separate issue", relying on the media and even those who had Caylee to help more than Casey: "We're just hoping everything is, is good as far as my granddaughter's concerned and with your guy's help and the other media that we've talked to and reporters and things like that we're just hopin' that they can facilitate gettin' our granddaughter back here I mean, hopin' that someone that sees it or is gonna realize that our granddaughter has this home..." I would say this comes the closest to a plea any Anthony ever made for Caylee's return.

my daughter is, at an area that she's gonna be getting some assistance and uh, she's gonna have to deal with what has happened

Had Casey been charged with child neglect at this point? Because I do wonder what George is trying to say here...that she was "at an area that she's gonna be getting some assistance." Is that because she had been arrested? Is he speaking about her being in jail? Then he says Casey is going to have to "deal with what has happened" and all I can think is he speaking of her having child neglect charges against her? Because if he's not...? This is the only time I have seen an Anthony place any responsibility on Casey. George actually says Casey is going to have to deal with what has happened. What else could he mean by this? TIA

Q: What can your daughter tell you, what has she told you about where she is do you think?
GA: Well, we're hoping that she's ah, that she's with a, you know ah, ah friend, someone that my daughter knows and...she's okay. We're just hoping everything is, is good as far as my granddaughter's concerned.
(snip)

George is asked point blank "what has she told you about where she is" and George launches into how they are "hoping" that Caylee is with a friend, "someone that my daughter knows." Which is inconsistent if George and Cindy truly "just believe what my daughter said about this person." Because George's answer to the question should have been "Casey told us she was taken by the nanny."


Thanks Lambchop(I will learn to multi quote! I'll make it a New Year's resolution! LOL. No really, I will...) I never would have thought about George's background in LE being a factor in his change of tense, thank you. We both got the same idea though, part of him knew Caylee was gone and by the hand of Casey.

George had already looked to the sky at the tow yard praying that what he was going to find as the source of the smell in the trunk of the Pontiac, not be Caylee. And he uses the word "hoping" several times because even though he knew, it was early enough to still do some hoping but his and Cindy's misstatements and missactions: i.e. the lies -show they were torn.

(other things I found interesting)
The 'fact' that George saw Caylee a day after Cindy has not changed: only the two dates have changed, 15th June vs. 16th of June: George here says that the last date Cindy saw Caylee was the 8th June while the last day he(George)saw Caylee was the 9th. The dates are different but the events are the same.

In this report it is stated that Casey and Caylee had not been seen by George and Cindy, since they had moved out of the Anthony home. It is stated twice by the person doing the report/interview and is not corrected by George. It goes unchallenged twice by George the statement that Casey had moved out with Caylee. This interview is from early in the case, IIRC around the time right before this or right after is when Cindy makes her statement that Casey took Caylee to bond. Then we have Cindy's Myspace entry for July 3rd, which tells us they left "unexpectedly."

Misstatement? This question has been asked many times in many ways: were George and Cindy aware that Casey was taking Caylee and not coming back or are they saying everything was okay? They have said both, and that is one example of why it has been said the Anthonys are liars. IMHO, even if you accepted this as a misstatement- if you accept what Cindy says, that Casey and her whole family have had their statements twisted, it does not explain why they have not felt compelled to clarify. The nanosecond I think someone has misunderstood me or may have, for what ever reason, misconstrued my words-I feel strongly about correcting myself. Casey sat in jail saying all the information she was giving was being twisted by LE, twisted by the media and when given several chances to clarify, Casey chose silence. Continues to chose silence. Everyone is different, no doubt because that is very different from how I would react to people twisting my words to make it seem like I was a liar who had killed my daughter.

Can a jury request to hear the defendant take the stand? I have said this before, but if I were on that jury-I would have to hear what Casey had to say before I could vote. Even if it was a new written statement, approved by her council-something, anything. Does she know her life is at stake?

She is one cool cucumber. :tsktsk:

...js...
 
"Can a jury request to hear the defendant take the stand? I have said this before, but if I were on that jury-I would have to hear what Casey had to say before I could vote."

No, of course a jury cannot request a defendant to take the stand!
 
"Can a jury request to hear the defendant take the stand? I have said this before, but if I were on that jury-I would have to hear what Casey had to say before I could vote."

No, of course a jury cannot request a defendant to take the stand!

True-but the jury will hear from Casey in oh so many ways!! They will hear from her in text messages, photos and videos, witness statements, computer records, etc.
Miss 08049710 will have to sit there and listen and glare, turn red in the face, shake her head, dab at dry eyes and check to make sure she hasn't smeared her mascara, write furiously, whisper to her "boys" "make them stop" to no avail and wish she could run out of the courtrrom like her father did when JA struck a nerve and had the audacity to mention the H3LL Caylee may have endured.
It is my fantasy that she will become so furious and deluded in her chance for freedom that she insists on getting on the stand. Of course the chance of that happening is akin to the chance of me winning the lottery! But, ya just never know with these Anthony's-they don't do well being stiffled!!:shutup:
 
True-but the jury will hear from Casey in oh so many ways!! They will hear from her in text messages, photos and videos, witness statements, computer records, etc.
Miss 08049710 will have to sit there and listen and glare, turn red in the face, shake her head, dab at dry eyes and check to make sure she hasn't smeared her mascara, write furiously, whisper to her "boys" "make them stop" to no avail and wish she could run out of the courtrrom like her father did when JA struck a nerve and had the audacity to mention the H3LL Caylee may have endured.
It is my fantasy that she will become so furious and deluded in her chance for freedom that she insists on getting on the stand. Of course the chance of that happening is akin to the chance of me winning the lottery! But, ya just never know with these Anthony's-they don't do well being stiffled!!:shutup:


I agree 100% that a jury is going to get to know Casey really well without her having to utter a word.

I mean seriously... go back and listen to Casey's phone call home when she was first arrested. She throws F-bombs at her mother... at her brother... and at her friend, Kristina.

Casey says, when asked why she wants to talk to Tony, her reply was, word for word, "Beeeee-cause he'ssssss myyyyy boyyyyyy-friend and I want to actually sit and talk to him, because I didn't get a chance to talk to him earlier - because I got arrested on a (bleeping) whim.

Don't you find it ironic how Casey is so concerned about talking to Tony, who she hasn't talked to in what? Maybe 12 hours? Yet, she hasn't seen or heard from her two-year-old baby in, at the time of the call, 32 days? Yes, a jury will find it ironic too.... but it gets better. Remember this little gem?

Kristina pours her heart out and explains to Casey that if something has happened to Caylee... she will die? Yes, DIE, if something had happened to Caylee! Casey's reaction to Kristina's obviously distraught words... Oh well. Oh. My. God. Calling you guys - a waste - a huge waste.

And it only gets better... Casey states, when being confronted with the fact that her family was on her side... "No one from my own family is on my side. They just want Caylee back - that's all they're worried about right now - is getting Caylee back."

Yes Casey, because there are so many other things to worry about when a two-year-old baby is "missing" -- like getting you Tony's phone number. The look on the jurors faces are going to be that of utter shock and disgust. The jury is going to hate Casey way before they even get to the forensics... I feel that they are going to be ready to convict Casey even before the forensics are introduced.

MOO
 
Note sure where to put this.....but Cindy was not wearing her wedding ring at today's hearing.

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Note sure where to put this.....but Cindy was not wearing her wedding ring at today's hearing.

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Love the not-so-subtle "place your hand next to your face so everyone in the world can see that (Cue Beyonce's Single Ladies beat)"you don't have a ring on it... ught...ught...oh...ught...ught...oh...oh...oh...oh...ught...oh...oh.....oh...oh...oh
 
I am terribly embarrassed for both of the A's right now. I hope whoever is coaching them impresses that they cannot behave this way in the criminal court trial. Can you just imagine telling the state attorney you don't like the questions so you are going to get up and leave?

I think GA's most glaring inconsistency is that the Jay Blanchard story was news to him that day. As for CA, the whole thing about did the detectives show KC the photo of THIS ZFG or not was way over done on both sides. She's going to step around that question because it makes her appear to further the slander. Accusing the cops of lying to her about showing KC the photo just makes her sound like she's reaching for something that is not there.

The thing that made me feel the worst for GA was the whole 'pushing the glasses up with the middle finger' episode. Clearly, a man who would say something like that knowing it's being taped and shown nationwide is extremely paranoid. The thing that made me the worst for CA was trying to deny that she knew something was dreadfully wrong by the first of July. That was just pitiful. We've seen the text messages begging KC to call or come home, seen the interviews with her co-workers and heard her own statements about the famous 31 days. She knew something wasn't right, but not necessarily what was wrong. Denying it now doesn't help anything.

I don't think either of them 'lied' to the point it can be proven, because if you ask someone what they know or think, you can never prove what is in the mind of another.

They seriously need to never speak publicly if this is the best they can do.

Great post. And it certainly won't help if CA gets on the stand and repeats that she believes Caylee is still alive. I just can't imagine what the jurors would do with that.

MOO

Mel
 
Note sure where to put this.....but Cindy was not wearing her wedding ring at today's hearing.

Well that's quite odd.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...peful-sign-from-george-and-cindy-anthony.html

The attorney’s statement said that rumors about a separation or divorce for George and Cindy were just that and nothing more. And the statement said they are not having any type of marital issues.

No ring and no George tells a completely different story IMHO.

MOO

Mel
 
Isn't that something celebrities do to gain attention right before they file for divorce? Oh Cindy! Too bad you're not a celebrity!

Not to get too OT, but right before Jessica Simpson filed for divorce, she was often seen without her ring. Her excuse? She left in the jewelry cleaner jar. I think we need a presser as to why Cindy didn't have her ring on....don't you?

:dance:

Mel
 
Note sure where to put this.....but Cindy was not wearing her wedding ring at today's hearing.

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Maybe she had to hock it to pay for another months food for the princess!
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
Cause we all know her and GA are soooooo happy and no problems.
 
I am not sure where this should go either (quoting Salvarenga). Statement Analysis has a great summary of River Cruz's police statement which shows that, overall, mostly, 100% mostly :), George never told the truth to any of us AND was always in manipulation mode, not the ineffective victim of Cindy's. I'm sure this has been noted somewhere on this forum. You guys don't miss anything, but I searched and found no reference.
 
Maybe she had to hock it to pay for another months food for the princess!
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
Cause we all know her and GA are soooooo happy and no problems.

Do we have pictures of CA wearing it before? I never really looked for it before
 
Do we have pictures of CA wearing it before? I never really looked for it before
I've come across several where she has the rings on and where she has the rings off (like the famous hammer-wielding photo).
 
Note sure where to put this.....but Cindy was not wearing her wedding ring at today's hearing.

2gspshh.jpg

I, personally, don't believe Cindy wearing or not wearing her wedding rings makes a statement one way or the other... it is quite clear to all of us that their marriage has been in the dumps for quite some time. I don't need to see rings on her finger (or not) to know that.

What is also pretty clear is that CA has gained a significant amount of weight. This picture shows her fingers to be quite pudgy. I think her not wearing her rings is a simple matter of them no longer fitting her fingers.

JMO.
 
I, personally, don't believe Cindy wearing or not wearing her wedding rings makes a statement one way or the other... it is quite clear to all of us that their marriage has been in the dumps for quite some time. I don't need to see rings on her finger (or not) to know that.

What is also pretty clear is that CA has gained a significant amount of weight. This picture shows her fingers to be quite pudgy. I think her not wearing her rings is a simple matter of them no longer fitting her fingers.

JMO.

I'm also thinking that pudgy fingers might be the reason. Either from weight gain or water.
 
Statement to LE
George Anthony
August 4, 2008


LE: ...these two days out but um she, so she actually told you on the 16th I plan on staying at Zanny's on a late event?
GA: Yes, most definitely.
LE: Mom starts calling apparently mom says that she had some form of uh, big deal going on at at work, a convention. So they were staying at the uh, Hard Rock Hotel.
GA: That's what she told us.
LE: Yeah
GA: I mean that's what my wife reiterated to me.
LE: You didn't have a conversation, just what your wife...
GA: Right
LE: ...told you, okay. And then there was, they had to move that to Busch Garden's Tampa area.
GA: Yes
LE: And that's where Zanny got in an accident?
(end snip)

Interview with GVS
George and Cindy Anthony
August 5, 2008


CA: No, its June 15th Fathers Day, which was mistaken early on because you know, I never even thought about what day Father's Day was. I just, I knew it was a Sunday in June I had taken that video and I knew that was the last day I physically saw her, even though I knew where she was sleeping the next morning. My husband actually saw Caylee and Casey leave on the 16th of June.
GVS: Alright. So the 15th is Sunday, Father's Day. Everything's normal, everything's fine. The next morning is the last day that either of you or George saw her. Do you remember what time of the day it was?
GA: Oh, specifically. I remember it was ten minutes to one on Monday the 16th.
GVS: So in the middle of the afternoon or early afternoon.
GA: I was watching a favorite TV show I like to watch on TV, a news...
CA: (interrupting) ...before you go to work.
GA: Yes, it was a Food Channel thing I watched, so...
GVS: And was it...you were watching here in the living room?
GA: Right and I was sitting right here almost in the same spot, just watching it and saw my granddaughter and daughter come out, you know with their back packs and...
CA: ...Like any other day.
GA: ...just like a normal type thing.
GVS: Do you know where they were headed with the back packs?
GA: My daughter said that she was going to work, dropping her daughter off at the nanny's house and that was it. I give them both hugs, kisses and saw them go out the door like a typical thing that they've, that she's done.
GVS: Nothing out of the ordinary?
GA: Just smiles, hugs. Dad, we'll see you tomorrow because I might be working a little bit late, type deal. And that was it.
GVS: Now, I know you won't reveal the details, but can you just tell me, has Casey told you what happened to that child?
CA: Yes. In her way. And I can't reveal that.
(end snip)

Statement to LE
Cindy Anthony
August 8, 2008


LE: What about her clothes for her trip she took on the 16th? How much, you said initially about that night that she didn't take anything except a regular diaper bag and baby clothes.
CA: That I saw, again, George and I were at work. I don't know, she had access to the house during the day, she could have come in at any point and gone into the house. You know they were still not in Tampa here(pointing to calendar), so at any point she still could have...
LE: Didn't you tell me you asked her about baby clothes and she told you she brought all new clothes?
CA: Yes, for Caylee.
LE: Right
GA: No, no, no. I said Zanny keeps clothes. She said there's always clothes for Caylee at the babysitters but then she said on the weekend that they did shopping and bought more clothes.
LE: Because that was one of the things you were worried about because you asked her...why don't you take her clothes and she said, "we don't need clothes because we brought her all new clothes" because I remember you told me that, that night.
(end snip)

I believe LE when he says, "I remember you told me that, that night." And, the very first thing I ever heard Cindy state about Casey was that she had taken Caylee "to bond." It was the first news report I saw. FWIW. :curtsey:

I don't think George(or Cindy as she states)were home the morning of the 16th for long. I think Casey had the house to herself, and had packed the night before. "Hints"-Cindy asking Casey why she was not packing any clothes for Caylee. Casey says because "they" bought Caylee all new clothes. IMHO, Casey was "calling Cindy's bluff" of taking Caylee because she was not a fit mother. She was claiming to be taking Caylee off to live when in fact she had already planned her murder. :shakehead:

:sleuth:
 
Note sure where to put this.....but Cindy was not wearing her wedding ring at today's hearing.

Well that's quite odd.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...peful-sign-from-george-and-cindy-anthony.html

The attorney’s statement said that rumors about a separation or divorce for George and Cindy were just that and nothing more. And the statement said they are not having any type of marital issues.

No ring and no George tells a completely different story IMHO.

MOO

Mel

Not to get too OT, but right before Jessica Simpson filed for divorce, she was often seen without her ring. Her excuse? She left in the jewelry cleaner jar. I think we need a presser as to why Cindy didn't have her ring on....don't you?

:dance:

Mel

Maybe she had to hock it to pay for another months food for the princess!
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
Cause we all know her and GA are soooooo happy and no problems.

I, personally, don't believe Cindy wearing or not wearing her wedding rings makes a statement one way or the other... it is quite clear to all of us that their marriage has been in the dumps for quite some time. I don't need to see rings on her finger (or not) to know that.

What is also pretty clear is that CA has gained a significant amount of weight. This picture shows her fingers to be quite pudgy. I think her not wearing her rings is a simple matter of them no longer fitting her fingers.JMO.

I'm also thinking that pudgy fingers might be the reason. Either from weight gain or water.

ITA with the rings not fitting due to weight...

When this case first broke, CA lost tons of weight...now I believe she is stress eating or she's hitting the wine bottle...her eyes were so puffy the last time she took the stand, I believe during the 911 calls hearing...that's when ICA cried some tears...she hadn't seen her mother in a long while and was startled at how old she appeared (also matronly dressed) to be along with weight gain...this is a family who strives for perfect images, body images mean lots to this family...Remember GA telling ICA she appears to have gained some weight and to be careful....I think CA put on those 50 pounds she lost during the time she was unsuccessfully looking for an alive Caylee...JMHO

Justice for Caylee
 
I, personally, don't believe Cindy wearing or not wearing her wedding rings makes a statement one way or the other... it is quite clear to all of us that their marriage has been in the dumps for quite some time. I don't need to see rings on her finger (or not) to know that.

What is also pretty clear is that CA has gained a significant amount of weight. This picture shows her fingers to be quite pudgy. I think her not wearing her rings is a simple matter of them no longer fitting her fingers.

JMO.

I don't always wear mine cause my hands are like little water retaining Fred Flintstone nubs...ouch...and I have been happily married for 10 years.
My husband lost his when he was field dressing a deer on top of a mountain-He climbed an hour's hike back up the mountain and still couldn't find it (he had lost a lot of weight and probably flung goo off of his hand, thus flinging the ring off into the snow somewhere)...I don't think we love each other any less, and the fact that he drove back 60 miles and climbed an hour uphill for a ring that cost me $90.00 (it cost more to butcher the deer) says more than the ring ever did.
Would GA drive an hour away to climb a mountain for Cindy in the dead of winter? There's your answer.
 
ITA with the rings not fitting due to weight...

When this case first broke, CA lost tons of weight...now I believe she is stress eating or she's hitting the wine bottle...her eyes were so puffy the last time she took the stand, I believe during the 911 calls hearing...that's when ICA cried some tears...she hadn't seen her mother in a long while and was startled at how old she appeared (also matronly dressed) to be along with weight gain...this is a family who strives for perfect images, body images mean lots to this family...Remember GA telling ICA she appears to have gained some weight and to be careful....I think CA put on those 50 pounds she lost during the time she was unsuccessfully looking for an alive Caylee...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

I am thinkin alcohol bloat and stress eating combined....also the fact that she is so reviled means she's not out walking/running for exercise and is SO not at a Gym. These people lie every time their mouths move so peeps are understandably nonplussed.
 
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