Misty C. #4

[ladonna]

Misty has lawyered up.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/19/news/news01.txt

 

[cajun]

Misty has lawyered up.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/19/news/news01.txt

Good, she should have had one from day one.

 

[Busylady]

I really question what the inconsistencies are - in the palatka article it states no sign of forced entry and Misty says the door was locked is a big one - well if Misty did not unlock the door herself she can't give them additonal information. The other item they mention are the clothes Haleigh had on when she went to bed were later found in the home - well once again if that is what Haleigh had on when she went to bed and Misty does not know if Haleigh changed later or someone took those clothes off Haleigh she can not give them any additional information.

IMO if it is inconsitencies like this that are holding up the investigation then we have a real problem. Misty can only give them the info she knows.

 

[minazoe]

is there any evidence that he left work early or was there at the house earlier than usual?

Misty looks like she likes downers and narcos...if she was out of it , a whole world of things could have taken place.

Also wanted to add that I always had the odd feeling that hayleigh was left alone in the house that night and someone knew it.

I think Misty came home and the baby was gone, and yes, maybe Ron was actually the first one there...which would explain alot.

 

[cajun]

is there any evidence that he left work early or was there at the house earlier than usual?

Misty looks like she likes downers and narcos...if she was out of it , a whole world of things could have taken place.

If Ron had left early from work like the rumors stated he did, he would not have been cleared by LE. LE has been satisfied that he was at work during his shift since Feb.

I don't know where you getting Misty looks likes she likes downers or "narcos" and she was out of it.

 

[minazoe]

she has some drug user mannerisms.

 

[Donjeta]

The rat incedent...could it be that Misty was the person in the passenger seat? If so, they are still considering her to be a juvenile. :waitasec:I think that may be one of the problems LE was having in the past with not being able to question Misty further. I wonder if we will ever find out if it was her?

I will assume that Suspect Information #2 is Misty.
They have blacked out all the details of #2 including name, but do state that Suspect #2 is a Juvenile http://www.docstoc.com/docs/9970528/RatGate

It's a fair assumption, I think, because of the clues left. The blacked out word for sex is longer than Ron's Male and the last e is showing so it's probably a Female. At one point there's a partial y or v showing at the end of a blacked out name, and in another there's a structure "Ronald and -------------------s" that looks a lot like they share a last name which ends in s, as Cummings. Then the officer says he tried to locate both suspects at Ron's address in Welaka. However, it has not been confirmed. It might be some other juvenile female living with Ron, with first name ending in v or y, and the same last name.

 

[nomoresorrow]

The rat incedent...could it be that Misty was the person in the passenger seat? If so, they are still considering her to be a juvenile. :waitasec:I think that may be one of the problems LE was having in the past with not being able to question Misty further. I wonder if we will ever find out if it was her?

I will assume that Suspect Information #2 is Misty.
They have blacked out all the details of #2 including name, but do state that Suspect #2 is a Juvenile http://www.docstoc.com/docs/9970528/RatGate

Judicial waiver;
In Florida, regardless of the offense, the State Attorney’s Office may file a petition for a discretionary waiver before a judge. The waiver proceeding is a two-part hearing before a juvenile court judge who reviews the evidence presented by the prosecutor and defense counsel and then decides whether to transfer the youth to adult court. In order to transfer the case, the judge must find:

• sufficient probable cause to allege that the youth was involved in the delinquency act, and
• background information supporting the transfer to adult court.

Waiver hearings can be voluntary or involuntary. A young person or his or her parents or guardians can request that the case be transferred to adult court for trial, or a prosecutor may direct file a case, either because they choose to or because the crime dictates that the youth be transferred.

You can read more here about Florida's statutory exclusion guidelines but it's cached/HTML as I can't get the other link to work . . .
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:wooBBVeNJVIJ:www.campaign4youthjustice.org/documents/FL_DownloadLaws.doc+Florida,+statutory+exclusion,+adult+or+juvenile&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[cajun]

Neves' attorney, Mark NeJame, said on the show that Croslin-Cummings' story during a five-hour gap between 10:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is in question.

"There are certain areas that still remain with a large question mark hovering over them. I think that's the focus of their investigation. We've been brought on to assist with that by bring renewed attention to the situation, because there are unanswered questions."

Nejame added, "The police are quite appropriate in following through and trying to piece together this puzzle. What happened during that five hours, and where is Haleigh?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/earlyshow/main5251508.shtml

If that is truly the "gap" that LE is waiting on to clear up, then I don't know what to say. SHe was asleep during that time. It makes no sense to me.

 

[RoseRed]

Neves' attorney, Mark NeJame, said on the show that Croslin-Cummings' story during a five-hour gap between 10:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is in question.

"There are certain areas that still remain with a large question mark hovering over them. I think that's the focus of their investigation. We've been brought on to assist with that by bring renewed attention to the situation, because there are unanswered questions."

Nejame added, "The police are quite appropriate in following through and trying to piece together this puzzle. What happened during that five hours, and where is Haleigh?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/earlyshow/main5251508.shtml

If that is truly the "gap" that LE is waiting on to clear up, then I don't know what to say. SHe was asleep during that time. It makes no sense to me.

If she was asleep how can she clear up what happened ?

 

[nomoresorrow]

Neves' attorney, Mark NeJame, said on the show that Croslin-Cummings' story during a five-hour gap between 10:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is in question.

"There are certain areas that still remain with a large question mark hovering over them. I think that's the focus of their investigation. We've been brought on to assist with that by bring renewed attention to the situation, because there are unanswered questions."

Nejame added, "The police are quite appropriate in following through and trying to piece together this puzzle. What happened during that five hours, and where is Haleigh?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/earlyshow/main5251508.shtml

If that is truly the "gap" that LE is waiting on to clear up, then I don't know what to say. SHe was asleep during that time. It makes no sense to me.

Well apparently LE doesn't believe that to be the case as they have repeatedly stated, for the past six months, having issues with the gaps & inconsistancies in Misty's account of that evening/early morning events - adding yesterday that they have physical evidence that contradicts her story - clearly whatever physical evidence they have, at least one item is something that proves Misty was not sleeping in her bed . . .
IMO

 

[cajun]

I am sure Mark has talked to LE and that he wouldn't say things that aren't true on national TV.

 

[Donjeta]

Well, in her interviews the sleeping part seemed a bit iffy, timelinewise and locationwise. She had several different versions of the bed time and the waking up time and how long it took for her to call Ron, if she did, and call 911. Which beds everyone slept on etc. I wonder if the sleeping arrangements changed because something didn't fit the evidence at the MH.

It might be she didn't know what time they slept and woke up but I'd have thought it's easy to be consistent about I don't know. I got the impression that they have some evidence placing Misty elsewhere but not enough to tell how long she was there and what she was doing.

 

[nomoresorrow]

If she was asleep how can she clear up what happened ?

There are many people who have been and will be asleep at the time of a crime and are not deemed a suspect simply because they can't prove they were sleeping - issues arise when information, leading to actual evidence surfaces that say's otherwise, contradicting the persons claim that they were asleep . . .

JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

If she was asleep how can she clear up what happened ?

She can't, imo. She can't clear up how the back door was unlocked if someone else left it that way for later entry/exit without her knowledge or why the screen had a block holding it open, imo. She can't clear up the pink shirt in the laundry if she doesn't know how it got there, imo.

They are asking for the impossible, imo, if she was asleep.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Well apparently LE doesn't believe that to be the case as they have repeatedly stated, for the past six months, having issues with the gaps & inconsistancies in Misty's account of that evening/early morning events - adding yesterday that they have physical evidence that contradicts her story - clearly whatever physical evidence they have, at least one item is something that proves Misty was not sleeping in her bed . . .
IMO

Do you have a link to show they have something that proves Misty was not sleeping in her bed? In everything I have seen or read...I have not found anything remotely stating they have such evidence. Maybe I missed something.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I am sure Mark has talked to LE and that he wouldn't say things that aren't true on national TV.

With all due respect cajun, MN doesn't get a free pass here simply because he's an attorney and since when has that been the qualifier here? I can think of a dozen attorney's off the top of my head who's statements' made on TV have been challanged. The two more recent that immediately come to mind are Jose B/Casey Anthony case and Kim P/Crystal S - this very case! As for me, I will not assume that "anyone" has spoken to LE nor will I grant anyone absolute credibility simply because they made the statement on TV.

MOO -

 

[elle1919]

If they are asking for the impossible then why doesn't she go in and make it possible. Do whatever she needs to to clear up the information she gave that does not jive with their findings. Why would LE state there was physical evidence at the scene that contradicts what Misty says happened. What physical evidence? This beautiful little girl was taken on her watch. Why won't she answer their questions? If she was sleeping in the bed next to Haleigh why doesn't she know what pajamas Haleigh had on? If Haleigh woke up and changed her clothes why didn't Misty know that.

Hearing that screen door slam on Nancy grace last night reminded me how very loud that would be in the middle of the night. Someone propped that door open because they knew darn well that it would slam that loud. What about the neighbor who says she heard hollering in the middle of the night from that area? Is she lying? Is everyone lying? Look I don't want to believe that Misty harmed Haleigh, I really don't I never have. But, if she refuses to talk to LE and she was the last one with my child....I would have a very big problem with that.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

It won't do any good if it really is all she knows and if those things are like she told them in the first place, imo. She isn't going to be able to prove or to disprove anything, imo. The physical evidence that there was no forced entry doesn't gel with her story that Haleigh was taken and she didn't know it, imo. It doesn't mean someone did not leave the door unlocked without her knowledge or that someone did not actually take her...so how does she go about proving it?

Why would she give them the shirt out of the laundry basket? Makes no sense, imo.

How can they determine anything by the videos or where the player was located (too high or whatever)? Kids have been known to climb to very high and unexpected places in order to get something, imo How can she prove they didn't mess with the videos or the player?

Other people could know the screen would slam and not just the people who live there, imo. Did it have a rocker arm intact which used to allow the screen to close slowly? If someone did unlock the back door...they may have been smart enough to check that out at the same time, imo.

 

[cajun]

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