Misty gets 25 years - Are you happy with the St. John's verdict? ***POLL***

[djdj247]

Maybe but not sure how he is going to do that behind bars for 15 years. Also wasn't he arrested several other times on drug related issues. How many chances does does this guy get?

Just my opinion, but Ron seems like he would have a whole bunch-a knowledge as to the who's, how's and where's of the drug world in Putnam County. He doesn't need to be out in the community to provide LE with info. It may have been why he has been given "slaps" on the wrist. He could very well be a "narc". Not an informant but would easily give someone else up to save his own butt. JMO, as always. It might explain why he had Misty do all his legwork when it came to the deals... his suppliers might not have trusted him enough to deal with him. Just a thought.

 

[lil momma]

The only deal Ron should have got would be to provide the names of who provide the drugs for sale in the first place. The people that sold their prescriptions to Misty should have been prosecuted just like the rest of them. Wasn't that Donna Brocks charge? To me this would have been a first offense had they arrested her on the first transaction. What was the point of continuing to do all those additional deals if they were not going after the suppliers? That is usually why they do multiple deals to get to the suppliers. I still don't understand why the suppliers were not prosecuted. I am no fan of any of this bunch but I do think Misty got a tough sentence.

ITA s1rebecca!

your post made me think so something else, though. I am wondering if LE HAD to go through all of those transactions to be able to get ALL of them. (ToC, MC, and RC) IMO, LE didn't want just Misty or just Ron or just Tommy, they wanted them ALL and this was the only way to get them all in jail. Had they just wanted one of them, there wouldn't have been so many transactions with the undercover officer... JMO

 

[kolokolo]

Justus4all....I believe LE will get it straightened out too...if Misty tells the truth.....and I agree folks are getting nervous, walking on pins and needles....IMO, Teresa is afraid she will spend her last days in prison....and if her involvement comes to light....she will....may she rot with the rest of them. I believe Teresa or GMSykes will be that surprise person of interest....it won't be a surprise to me but it will be a knock down shocker to those who have been fooled by her.....Teresa is a good actor.....do they put on plays in prison? just wondering....

Pressure is mounting, only 7 more days till Misty goes to Putnam County to learn her faith. TN is very nervous JMHO, she isnt so sure Misty wont shout out. TN may just be realizing that RC got owned by LE, getting him to plead GUILTY in exchange for a deal ... yep, TN is very nervous, right about now she is probably wondering what LE will offer Misty for the truth ....

Yep pressure is mounting!

 

[lil momma]

Just my opinion, but Ron seems like he would have a whole bunch-a knowledge as to the who's, how's and where's of the drug world in Putnam County. He doesn't need to be out in the community to provide LE with info. It may have been why he has been given "slaps" on the wrist. He could very well be a "narc". Not an informant but would easily give someone else up to save his own butt. JMO, as always. It might explain why he had Misty do all his legwork when it came to the deals... his suppliers might not have trusted him enough to deal with him. Just a thought.

ITA djdj!

BBM

I think since this wasn't Ron's first rodeo, Ron knew better than to deal himself, too easy to be caught. But you have Misty, who is young, not the brightest and female to be his "runner" this way if caught, she would get less time as underage, and Ron wouldn't get in trouble for it. (unless she ratted him out, which she wouldn't do)

i just hope with Ron being in DOC, Misty & Tommy will join forces and tell all. (and no lies this time---i know wishful thinking)

JMO

 

[suspicious1]

ITA s1rebecca!

your post made me think so something else, though. I am wondering if LE HAD to go through all of those transactions to be able to get ALL of them. (ToC, MC, and RC) IMO, LE didn't want just Misty or just Ron or just Tommy, they wanted them ALL and this was the only way to get them all in jail. Had they just wanted one of them, there wouldn't have been so many transactions with the undercover officer... JMO

Hey Lil Momma...I was going through some articles that I have saved on my computer and I found this one related to the drug bust...

Within eight undercover drug deal videos released by the St. Johns County Sheriff's Office, investigators said Ronald and Misty Cummings are seen working together to sell prescription drugs.

"Call me tomorrow," Misty said to an undercover officer in one of the videos.
"Call us tomorrow because I am suppose to come across 50 yellow Percocets and probably 50 or 60 more (inaudible)," Ronald tells the officer. "So just call me tomorrow and I'll tell you exactly what I can get."
"You gonna be with her tomorrow? Should I just call her phone?" the officer asked them.
"Yeah," they each replied.
While Misty appears in every video, Ronald is only in a few. In one of them, he starts off sitting in the back seat of a car talking about what drugs he said he can get.
"I guarantee you there's 50 Percocets right around the corner," Ronald said.
He then moves to the front seat and opens up to the undercover officer about his missing daughter.
"Because of my daughter, you know, anyone who's ever seen anything about it knows," he said. "Please don't ever tell no one that I did this (expletive). People would go to assuming that I was doped by or pissed someone off. Dope boys don't come and get your kids like that."

http://www.news4jax.com/news/22614822/detail.html

I believe LE from the very start of this undercover operation...knew that Ron was the "man behind the scenes"....Ron had Misty running these drug deals for him....making him money...LE went through all those transactions to get to Ron....and after they got Ron backed up in the corner....the drug bust was over....Ron and Misty were the targets of this drug bust....honestly, I don't think it even had anything to do with Tommy, Donna, or Hope...We hear Tommy saying that LE was after Misty and Ron....and clearly they were...and those two had been working together....and went down together.....Prior to Ron being caught on tape. LE had already gained enough evidence to take Misty down....but they proceeded because they needed Ron on tape too....They couldn't bust in and take down Misty, just hoping that she would roll on Ron.....LE had learned that much from the Haleigh case...the only way they were going to be able to lock Ron up too was to have him on video....

Misty may have been running the show when Ron was not in the picture because that's what he taught her...but as you see..on the videos of both Ron and Misty...Misty is handing everything to Ron....it's hilarious for some to think that Misty is this ringleader, mastermind....JMo of course

 

[suspicious1]

ITA djdj!

BBM

I think since this wasn't Ron's first rodeo, Ron knew better than to deal himself, too easy to be caught. But you have Misty, who is young, not the brightest and female to be his "runner" this way if caught, she would get less time as underage, and Ron wouldn't get in trouble for it. (unless she ratted him out, which she wouldn't do)
i just hope with Ron being in DOC, Misty & Tommy will join forces and tell all. (and no lies this time---i know wishful thinking)

JMO

BBM
Lil Momma, that's why LE needed Ron on those videos too....they knew Misty would not rat him out so they had to trip him up too....LE probably figured "hell she won't even tell on him about what happened to his daughter, I know she's not going to roll over on him about some drugs".. Ron knows how to play the game and he had Misty doing all his legwork....Dope boys do this all the time..this is nothing new where I come from...it's their way of protecting themselves but still making their money at the same time....

One more thing: If you notice in a few of the videos Misty is telling the undercover that she trusts him....several times...this tells me that Ron had a problem trusting people....and expressed that to Misty time and time again....but Misty being young and naive didn't have a clue as to what Ron was really trying to tell her....she was reassuring herself when she stated to the undercover how much she trusts him...What I think happened is this: once Misty had successfully completed multiple drug buys with the undercover...Ron got comfortable and decided to join in on the rides....The undercover gained Ron's trust through Misty......LE plan worked out pretty good....LE knew they had to get through Misty to get to Ron...

JMO of course

 

[6angels]

Another one beats the dust..... I dont care how long she gets or he gets etc. They did the crimes do the time. If it helps keep drugs out of children's hands Im happy and putting dealers in jail helps keep drugs out of children's hands.

 

[justus4all]

Thats true. I doubt we will ever know the actual crime scene. I don't think any forensic evidence was left behind to tell LE.

Yes, I agree Misty was not only the last known person to see Haleigh alive but imo she was the last person that saw Haleigh alive.

IMO

Just making a thought here..on your comments...

IMO...there would HAVE to be some forencis/evidence found that the LE has that has turned this case into a Homicide case...The LE does not change cases based on what stories they have heard...or that someone has "snitched" on some one else.......

Your commenting that we may never know the actual crime scene..I have that same opinion...The crime scene..IMO..was not in Ron's MH...it was elsewhere....Where that is....IMO..the LE know...

Also...How could you be so certain...(I realize..it'a just your opinion)..that Misty WAS the LAST person that saw Haleigh alive....if Misty's wherebouts that day are still in question...and the LE are STILL working with her to TELL THEM of her wherebouts that day.....

just wondering...and all in my own opinion...
imo..

 

[dodie20]

No LE has not come out and confirmed that she wasn't with someone else and was there, djdj but it is commonsense if that were true and Misty had an alibi that night and she wasnt there, then I think she would have admitted that by now, and would have given the names of the persons she was with. Instead, even though her tales have widely varied on what happen she has always placed herself at home that night.

If she wasnt there then LE wouldn't call her a key to this case either imo. If she wasnt there then what could she tell them? Nothing imo

So, imo she was there when Haleigh was killed and that is why Agent Smith was still asking her to lead them to Haleigh's body right before her sentencing.

If she left at all imo it was when she went with Tommy to discard Haleigh's body or she may have stayed behind staging the crime scene.

IMO

The 1 thing I've learned about Misty, is she marches to the beat of a different drummer. She doesn't follow the rules of common sense. LE was pretty convincing with their assertions that Misty wasn't at the trailer. Who knows where she was or what she was doing, but I guess she has her own reasons for not telling, & in her mind anyway, they make perfect sense. If she had been out dumping the body, I would think that she would've joined Tommy & Joe, (keeping the lie, close to the truth), in that tale...just said he coerced them both, therefore erasing the question of why she didn't call 911, as soon as those 2 left. But, like I said earlier, she doesn't follow a logical chain. I always thought that if she was gonna lie about Haleigh being abducted, why not say she was in her own room? that would at least open a window of belief that she herself, didn't hear a thing, & in the process, they would've also been following DCF sleep guidelines. weird. There are a lot of stories that would've worked better, by just saying the opposite. & I guess that's 1 of the main reasons, I lean towards trying to believe her. I guess Jr witnessing Haleigh being taken, is the reason she didn't lie about the rooms. But was she in the room with them?

 

[cyberborg]

It is very telling, to me, that AH reports as follows:

"Within hours of Ronald Cummings sentencing Friday, The Bald Truth has learned Misty Croslin began to crack under relentless police questioning—and changed her story again."

http://www.artharris.com/2010/09/26...isty-changes-story-not-cousin-joe-overstreet/

And yet at Misty's sentencing there was no presentation IIRC of Misty's testimony or cooperation with LE over the HaLeigh case, to try to earn a reduced sentence.

This speaks volumes that LE remain un-impressed with Misty's 'stories', that they are still considered more lies, even though she focuses more on Tommy ... reportedly.

I don't find AH's sources and articles particularly credible but if Misty did not crack after Ron getting a plea deal and Ron getting 15 years then I am not too sure that Misty will change her stance much when she goes to her next sentencing.

Having said that, Shoemaker did signal through AH that Ron states he does not know if Misty did it, he does not know what happened (allegedly) so that emboldens Misty that Ron is not sharing anything damning against Misty.

Like Bonnie and Clyde ... Misty and Ron are going to take their drug sentences and keep quiet on HaLeigh ... probably because it will just make matters worse for both of them.

It is crystal clear to me that LE want more than Misty in this crime and it definitely does not look like it is JO or ToC else LE would have run with that ...
they want someone else on the Croslin (Timmy?) and/or Cummings family (Ron, TN?). They don't have the goods yet on the surprise POI.

 

[cyberborg]

BBM
Lil Momma, that's why LE needed Ron on those videos too....they knew Misty would not rat him out so they had to trip him up too....LE probably figured "hell she won't even tell on him about what happened to his daughter, I know she's not going to roll over on him about some drugs".. Ron knows how to play the game and he had Misty doing all his legwork....Dope boys do this all the time..this is nothing new where I come from...it's their way of protecting themselves but still making their money at the same time....

One more thing: If you notice in a few of the videos Misty is telling the undercover that she trusts him....several times...this tells me that Ron had a problem trusting people....and expressed that to Misty time and time again....but Misty being young and naive didn't have a clue as to what Ron was really trying to tell her....she was reassuring herself when she stated to the undercover how much she trusts him...What I think happened is this: once Misty had successfully completed multiple drug buys with the undercover...Ron got comfortable and decided to join in on the rides....The undercover gained Ron's trust through Misty......LE plan worked out pretty good....LE knew they had to get through Misty to get to Ron...

JMO of course

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Exactly!! Misty was just the runner and LE entrapped Misty first and then used her to entrap and get to Ron. Why?

Despite Misty's foolish betrayal Ron still feels the need to signal to Misty, even while in jail via Shoemaker and the media. Keep the faith. Why?

From day one Ron has sat alongside Misty and 'controlled' her and kept her to the script while sharing nothing else. It has been a double act with Misty knowing nothing much and Ron stating he was at work. Why?

Why is Ron still stage managing Misty -- if he truly wants to truth to come out, does not know what happened and, feels that Misty is the key with the Croslins are involved?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I believe there has to be some kind of forensics/evidence for the LE to call this case a Homicide..Not just suspicion..imo...

I have seen LE do this before and it is usually based on the totality of the circumstances.

After so many months and Haleigh was not found alive LE then determines that the only reason Haleigh has not come back home alive is because she is dead and not kidnapped.

Just a process of a elimination imo.

If they had not found the decomp smell in CAs car and her not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days then they would have most likely waited longer to arrest her or until Caylee's body was discovered.

That is the way they usually do it when it is a missing body case.

IMO

 

[bessie]

Maybe but not sure how he is going to do that behind bars for 15 years. Also wasn't he arrested several other times on drug related issues. How many chances does does this guy get?

It's a fact of life in Florida that many drug offenders receive plea bargains for snitching on other drug offenders they meet in jail.

 

[bessie]

Hey Lil Momma...I was going through some articles that I have saved on my computer and I found this one related to the drug bust...



I believe LE from the very start of this undercover operation...knew that Ron was the "man behind the scenes"....Ron had Misty running these drug deals for him....making him money...LE went through all those transactions to get to Ron....and after they got Ron backed up in the corner....the drug bust was over....Ron and Misty were the targets of this drug bust....honestly, I don't think it even had anything to do with Tommy, Donna, or Hope...We hear Tommy saying that LE was after Misty and Ron....and clearly they were...and those two had been working together....and went down together.....Prior to Ron being caught on tape. LE had already gained enough evidence to take Misty down....but they proceeded because they needed Ron on tape too....They couldn't bust in and take down Misty, just hoping that she would roll on Ron.....LE had learned that much from the Haleigh case...the only way they were going to be able to lock Ron up too was to have him on video....

Misty may have been running the show when Ron was not in the picture because that's what he taught her...but as you see..on the videos of both Ron and Misty...Misty is handing everything to Ron....it's hilarious for some to think that Misty is this ringleader, mastermind....JMo of course

LE called Misty the ringleader because she is the only one who participated in each and every transaction. She is also the only one who was in contact with the UC by telephone. With the exception of Hope, the other defendants were all connected to Misty independently of each other.

1. Tommy -- Misty's brother
2. Donna -- Misty's new friend
3. Ron -- Misty's boyfriend
4. "K" -- Misty's friend NayNay's little sister

So the term ringleader is accurate to describe Misty in this instance. Big deal. No one claimed she was Al Capone.

 

[suspicious1]

LE called Misty the ringleader because she is the only one who participated in each and every transaction. She is also the only one who was in contact with the UC by telephone. With the exception of Hope, the other defendants were all connected to Misty independently of each other.

1. Tommy -- Misty's brother
2. Donna -- Misty's new friend
3. Ron -- Misty's boyfriend
4. "K" -- Misty's friend NayNay's little sister

So the term ringleader is accurate to describe Misty in this instance. Big deal. No one claimed she was Al Capone.

who said anything about her being compared to Al Capone? Now that is too funny...LOL I would hate to be a follower, and my ringleader could barely read or write....or count....LOL all of them are idiots....

I would love to hear how you view Ron on those tapes...what do you think his position was?

Big deal? you seem offended by my post...why? it is what it is.

 

[cyberborg]

LE called Misty the ringleader because she is the only one who participated in each and every transaction. She is also the only one who was in contact with the UC by telephone. With the exception of Hope, the other defendants were all connected to Misty independently of each other.

1. Tommy -- Misty's brother
2. Donna -- Misty's new friend
3. Ron -- Misty's boyfriend
4. "K" -- Misty's friend NayNay's little sister

So the term ringleader is accurate to describe Misty in this instance. Big deal. No one claimed she was Al Capone.

BBM.

Oh! :waitasec: I thought it was because LE considered this to be a circus and Misty was a clown :crazy: for being involved in something she was way out of her depth in. Ron may have used her as a 'runner' but she was not real-world drug trafficking material. It was inevitable they'd get into big top trouble quickly with either LE or ... real hoodlum drug traffickers. They were very lucky it was LE!! Stupid is as ....

 

[dodie20]

who said anything about her being compared to Al Capone? Now that is too funny...LOL I would hate to be a follower, and my ringleader could barely read or write....or count....LOL all of them are idiots....

I would love to hear how you view Ron on those tapes...what do you think his position was?

Big deal? you seem offended by my post...why? it is what it is.

your post got me to thinking about something. Actually Whisper could probably explain it, but I've been wondering how leaders vs followers are treated in prison. I would think that a teenaged female, proclaimed ring leader, would garner a certain amount of respect, wheras an older man, who was 'working' for a teen girl, might not get so much respect. Misty's gonna be in the pen for a long time, & so is Ron, for that matter, & I am curious about their futures.

 

[suspicious1]

your post got me to thinking about something. Actually Whisper could probably explain it, but I've been wondering how leaders vs followers are treated in prison. I would think that a teenaged female, proclaimed ring leader, would garner a certain amount of respect, wheras an older man, who was 'working' for a teen girl, might not get so much respect. Misty's gonna be in the pen for a long time, & so is Ron, for that matter, & I am curious about their futures.

I wonder about their futures too dodie....I've never been to prison so I don't know how they would be treated on the inside.....well...I just hope they make it out alive.

 

[bessie]

BBM.

Oh! :waitasec: I thought it was because LE considered this to be a circus and Misty was a clown :crazy: for being involved in something she was way out of her depth in. Ron may have used her as a 'runner' but she was not real-world drug trafficking material. It was inevitable they'd get into big top trouble quickly with either LE or ... real hoodlum drug traffickers. They were very lucky it was LE!! Stupid is as ....

Oh that, too. But ya know, cyborg, when it comes to trafficking drugs, particularly prescription drugs, the real-world traffickers are the Mistys and the Rons. No dangerous Mexican cartels, no smuggling across international borders. The big supplier is as near as the family physician's office or the neighborhood pain clinic. Ever look at the bookings in Putnam County? Seen the mugshots? There's not an Einstein among them.

Misty was able to obtain drugs for the UC without Ron's help, and she did a pretty good job of it.

 

[JSV]

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