MN - Beau Shroyer, Wife of Detroit Lakes missionary killed in Angola arrested in connection to his death

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One would think that SIM would at least expect their missionaries to have charisma, .. at the very least, some sort of interesting personality,, some capacity for public speaking, some kind of gift, or talent for drawing people in, not repelling them with dribbling slogans and memes....

Jacki, and to a certain extent, Beau, seemed to be completely lacking in any sort of maturity, or even a grasp on real life, this endless blithering about 'love'... 'why don't people love me?'.. well, Jackie , it could be because you are dreary and needy and offputting.. That's a simple answer, obvious and crystal. I have to hand it to Bernadino if he put up with that kind of hammering nonsense day in , day out from either of them.. He must be a bit of a saint.

I still wonder if they heard God correctly , about going to Angola, in AFRICA,... maybe they heard it wrong...it seemed so inefficient to me to have people tasked with spreading the word of God if they did not already speak the language of the targetted , oh I was about to say victims, but targetted recipients might be more tactful.
I admire your "no holds barred" approach and do ask for forgiveness when I can't help but laugh at your delivery. (wink)


Meanwhile SIMUSA is looking after JS with prison visits, food and lawyers from Angola and the US.
BS being stabbed to death didn't even make a footnote.
imo:
This president should be fired


"Update from the SIM USA President"
"Dear supporter of Beau and Jackie Shroyer,"

cont


 

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I admire your "no holds barred" approach and do ask for forgiveness when I can't help but laugh at your delivery. (wink)


Meanwhile SIMUSA is looking after JS with prison visits, food and lawyers from Angola and the US.
BS being stabbed to death didn't even make a footnote.
imo:
This president should be fired


"Update from the SIM USA President"
"Dear supporter of Beau and Jackie Shroyer,"

cont


Always with the hand out for a 'donation'... Randy couldn't help but insert a bit of patronising about the Angolan Legal system, which has a higher rating of integrity than many a USA state attorneys outfit... really, it is just shameless. No explanation of how Jackie went so far off the rails of her professed deep knowledge and love of Jesus and God, how it all turned her into a co author of murder, and this follows that there was a conspiracy.. . a planned exercise to murder, because it stretches the credibility to believe that Bernadino and Jackie suddenly thought up the idea, separately and coincidentally acted upon it. They must have discussed it, and since the label is for Jackie , co author, means she probably did write about it. She genuinely seems that stupid to me, I bet she did write it down,..

I suppose people are at liberty to give their money to whomsoever, but it's mighty strange to me. Jackie would be allocated a public defender, SIMS won't be paying for that, it's against Angolan rules, they might be paying for the American lawyers, but it would seem very odd to me if they were allowed to approach the Angolan bar in any legal representation position., they would not be part of the Angolan Justica Dept. .. let's hope that these American blokes can at least speak Portugese. Fluently .
 
"As a result of formal charges, it is our understanding that she will remain in custody and tried before a judge. The court date has not yet been set, but will likely occur within the next six months," Easton said in a statement on Monday.

Easton said that the Shroyers' five children will continue to be cared for by other family members and support from both SIM USA — the missionary organization Beau was working with — and the church.
 

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I admire your "no holds barred" approach and do ask for forgiveness when I can't help but laugh at your delivery. (wink)


Meanwhile SIMUSA is looking after JS with prison visits, food and lawyers from Angola and the US.
BS being stabbed to death didn't even make a footnote.
imo:
This president should be fired


"Update from the SIM USA President"
"Dear supporter of Beau and Jackie Shroyer,"

cont


Rbm.
Cannot even begin to say what my thoughts are re. the red bolded. :mad:

Curious, though .... does SIMUSA feel they need to help her, and also want to eventually cover up this embarrassment for their organization ; so it doesn't make them 'look bad' or something ?
Omo.
 
This is how Beau Shroyer's church leader Pastor Easton is dealing with his murder and his wife JS's connection to his murder.
Throw the "King David" card then (para-phrasing) tell his congregation that many of them are sitting ducks for sin to walk right in just like it did to JS.
I gave up listening even though I was fast-forwarding him.


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"Join us as lead pastor Troy Easton gives a short update on Jackie Shroyer and the kids. Prepare your hearts as Troy calls us to a higher engagement in our walk with God!'


 
This is how Beau Shroyer's church leader Pastor Easton is dealing with his murder and his wife JS's connection to his murder.
Throw the "King David" card then (para-phrasing) tell his congregation that many of them are sitting ducks for sin to walk right in just like it did to JS.
I gave up listening even though I was fast-forwarding him.


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"Join us as lead pastor Troy Easton gives a short update on Jackie Shroyer and the kids. Prepare your hearts as Troy calls us to a higher engagement in our walk with God!'


I did, for my sins, listen to it all. There was a complete reversal of gender roles which kind of invalidated the message, in that Pastor Eaton ( dressed for snow blowing ) put forward Bernadino as Bathsheba, and Jackie as King David.. at least , I think that was how it went, it sort of went into outer space after that, for me, this tended to skew the concept quite radically, it was very hard to imagine that kind of positioning, but I persevered, hoping for some insight, eventually, it came down to this, SIN is everywhere, and you better watch out, basically. I just could not grasp Bernadino being Bathsheba. It did not jell. ....

I listened a second time and came away even more discombobulated so I've put it down to the cultural gap.
 
IMO:
Just plain ole' bizarre.

'Before leaving for Angola, missionary and wife charged with his murder shared troubled paths to Jesus'​


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i dunno.... reading this "memoir" again........... I think she has always been a selfish woman.
I wonder how her conversations with Jesus were, leading up to what happened to Beau.
 
I did, for my sins, listen to it all. There was a complete reversal of gender roles which kind of invalidated the message, in that Pastor Eaton ( dressed for snow blowing ) put forward Bernadino as Bathsheba, and Jackie as King David.. at least , I think that was how it went, it sort of went into outer space after that, for me, this tended to skew the concept quite radically, it was very hard to imagine that kind of positioning, but I persevered, hoping for some insight, eventually, it came down to this, SIN is everywhere, and you better watch out, basically. I just could not grasp Bernadino being Bathsheba. It did not jell. ....

I listened a second time and came away even more discombobulated so I've put it down to the cultural gap.
oh... reminded of alllll the Renaissance paintings of Bathsheba... a beautiful naked woman was "so allowed" since he was biblical!!!
Hard for me to put Bernadino in that painting!!!
But i can see Jackie as Kind David.

But this pastor is so so into this story, isn't he?
whoh...
he got pretty critical of his "church"... geeeez, heavy.
 
oh... reminded of alllll the Renaissance paintings of Bathsheba... a beautiful naked woman was "so allowed" since he was biblical!!!
Hard for me to put Bernadino in that painting!!!
But i can see Jackie as Kind David.

But this pastor is so so into this story, isn't he?
whoh...
he got pretty critical of his "church"... geeeez, heavy.
I couldn't finish listening to him condemning his congregation knowing all the while he's using this tactic to take the attention away from JS who is charged as an accomplice to murder.
King David killed Uriah so get over it people, eh?

IMO: Pastor Easton is among the preachers who give Christianity a bad name.
 
The wife of a Minnesota missionary killed in the African country of Angola last year has been charged with his murder, the lead pastor of the Lakes Area Vineyard Church in Detroit Lakes confirmed in a letter to his congregation.

“It saddens me immensely to have to share with you that we were notified that Jackie [Shroyer] has been formally charged as a co-author in the murder of her husband

According to a new statement from SIM USA, the company that organized the mission trip, Jackie is currently being held in custody in Angola and is "being supported by SIM colleagues and others."
 
“As an American accused of a serious crime in Angola, Jackie will be subject to Angolan law and procedures. In Angola, the judicial system operates under Portuguese civil law, a framework that places a strong emphasis on judicial rather than jury decisions. This means that instead of a jury trial, Jackie’s case will likely be heard by a panel of judges who will assess the evidence and decide her fate. Angola’s legal system also typically includes extended pretrial detention, meaning Jackie could face a long wait before her trial officially begins
 
“As an American accused of a serious crime in Angola, Jackie will be subject to Angolan law and procedures. In Angola, the judicial system operates under Portuguese civil law, a framework that places a strong emphasis on judicial rather than jury decisions. This means that instead of a jury trial, Jackie’s case will likely be heard by a panel of judges who will assess the evidence and decide her fate. Angola’s legal system also typically includes extended pretrial detention, meaning Jackie could face a long wait before her trial officially begins

Maybe now she'll have the time and opporunity to actually learn Portuguese!
 
Pastor Troy Easton of Lakes Area Vineyard Church, where the Shroyer family were members, expressed his sorrow over the charges. "Ask God, Vineyard, to bring justice for Beau's murder. Ask God to unveil the truth clearly and soon," Easton said.

As Jackie Shroyer's trial approached, Bret said, "The wheels of justice are moving." Meanwhile, Beau's church community continued to turn to prayer, holding "love" and "sadness" in their hearts
 
From a People Magazine article:

He also shared that Jackie has “been able to have contact with her children at least once a week” since her arrest.

 
From a People Magazine article:

He also shared that Jackie has “been able to have contact with her children at least once a week” since her arrest.

That is very kind and considerate of the Angolan Correctional Dept, don't you think? they don't have to do that, and it must be something they organise for quite a few women in that prison, people who's familes are up country, or in Namibia, or for some of the women with families in the Congo it would be a terrific ease of fear and anxiety.. ( due to the civic upheaval and ghastly murderous raids going on there )
 
Disturbing news... disturbing for Jacki, that is. Angola is on Trumps list of banned countries, which means, if he follows thru, the American embassy will be abandoned, along with staff and Ambassador, ... no visits from fellow americans for Jacki, she will be somewhat abandoned herself, unless some generous missionaries take up her cause.. a very slim chance of that happening.... Also, her relatives on USA passports will not be allowed in, as these things very quickly become reciprocal..... very quickly indeed. That would include her children, her mother, etc..
 
Disturbing news... disturbing for Jacki, that is. Angola is on Trumps list of banned countries, which means, if he follows thru, the American embassy will be abandoned, along with staff and Ambassador, ... no visits from fellow americans for Jacki, she will be somewhat abandoned herself, unless some generous missionaries take up her cause.. a very slim chance of that happening.... Also, her relatives on USA passports will not be allowed in, as these things very quickly become reciprocal..... very quickly indeed. That would include her children, her mother, etc..
This source indicates that the banned country’s residents are restricted from visiting the U.S. if they haven’t been adequately vetted by their country. I don’t see anything saying that U.S. residents can’t visit restricted countries like Angola or that embassies will be closed…thankfully. At least so far.


Donald Trump's administration is drafting tighter entry rules to the United States including possible bans on some citizens from 43 countries in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, it has been reported.

BBM
 
This source indicates that the banned country’s residents are restricted from visiting the U.S. if they haven’t been adequately vetted by their country. I don’t see anything saying that U.S. residents can’t visit restricted countries like Angola or that embassies will be closed…thankfully. At least so far.


Donald Trump's administration is drafting tighter entry rules to the United States including possible bans on some citizens from 43 countries in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, it has been reported.

BBM

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For every action there is a reaction.. this is one of the natural laws..... this is how it happens.
 
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For every action there is a reaction.. this is one of the natural laws..... this is how it happens.
Yes, reciprocity is certainly a possibility. I was basing my cautious optimism on the fact that Angola is on the “yellow” list of banned countries that have an opportunity to address “deficiency concerns.”

Yellow List​

The draft yellow list includes 22 countries, which would have 60 days to address deficiency concerns or risk being moved to another category.

Some of the issues these countries would have to address include failing to share information about incoming travelers with the U.S., inadequate security practices for issuing passports, and selling citizenship to people from banned countries.

Countries on this list include:
  • Angola
  • Etc….
 

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