MN - Beau Shroyer, Wife of Detroit Lakes missionary killed in Angola arrested in connection to his death

[LittleSeaTree]

The spot was where Beau took Jackie for driving lessons.

Assuming to drive a manual car, right?

 

[LittleSeaTree]

The whole criminal enterprise only lasted 4 days. Beau dead, Jackie charged with murder, in custody , 2 men charged with murder for hire, and in custody, one man still to be apprehended, charged with murder for hire ..

All that for 4 days. That's about 200 years prison time all up between the four of them.

And 5 kids seemingly orphaned

 

[Trooper]

I just don’t understand how Jackie thought she was going to get away with this! Does she think Angolan LE are dumb?

On the surface , that seems to be a likely explanation.. a fatal flaw, but , obviously, at no time does she appear to have thought this whole venture through.

Nor, her accomplices, either, it's like they all seemed gripped into some fantasy, where money floats down from heaven, the killers ride off into the sunset, ( which would be straight into the Atlantic Ocean ) Jackie and Elias live a life of blissful sexual satisfaction in a kraal somewhere in the Karoo desert, far away from the dumb sticky fingers of Manuel 's Angolan coppers....

The kids,, I don't know what part they play in the fantasy, .. some nonsensical thing, like Elizabeth Downs, where she has these nannies and they all live in their own compound, and she just swans around bestowing kisses occasionally...

There is an element , not just of ruthlessness and cruelty in this , but unfathomable , immeasurable, incomprehensible stupidity of a denseness not often seen, not even in Minnesota.. it has a Coen Brothers Fargo component in it, all that's missing is bleak snow.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

On the surface , that seems to be a likely explanation.. a fatal flaw, but , obviously, at no time does she appear to have thought this whole venture through.

Nor, her accomplices, either, it's like they all seemed gripped into some fantasy, where money floats down from heaven, the killers ride off into the sunset, ( which would be straight into the Atlantic Ocean ) Jackie and Elias live a life of blissful sexual satisfaction in a kraal somewhere in the Karoo desert, far away from the dumb sticky fingers of Manuel 's Angolan coppers....

The kids,, I don't know what part they play in the fantasy, .. some nonsensical thing, like Elizabeth Downs, where she has these nannies and they all live in their own compound, and she just swans around bestowing kisses occasionally...

There is an element , not just of ruthlessness and cruelty in this , but unfathomable , immeasurable, incomprehensible stupidity of a denseness not often seen, not even in Minnesota.. it has a Coen Brothers Fargo component in it, all that's missing is bleak snow.

So well said! We do say this about so many cases….especially, it seems, the husbands who kill their wives and claim they are missing/kidnapped, etc. Lots of dumbness.

 

[Trooper]

So well said! We do say this about so many cases….especially, it seems, the husbands who kill their wives and claim they are missing/kidnapped, etc. Lots of dumbness.

You'd have to have a bit of sympathy for the Ambassador , and particularly , Embassy staff, one of whom will be delegated for the next 40 years to over seeing Jackie's well being, pharmacy needs, dietic needs, clothing needs, footwear, books, etc, etc, etc.... someone wrote back a bit that she might be extradited, not really, the crime took place in Angola and that's where she serves her sentence, unless some wizard in the Foreign Affairs dept can rustle up some poor Angolan languishing in a a prison in Texas somewhere, and State Dept, agree to an exchange.. the chances of that would be slim to none.

It's such bad timing, too, with a Presidential visit coming up in December , to Angola..

One can only imagine how cross and peeved all the other missionaries are, the sturm und drang heaving around among the Baptists, and the Pentecostals and the Anglicans!,,, having to try and explain all this to their followers, all the huffing and pursed lips,, all the questioning of precepts, and faiths, and sermons, and principles, etc.. .. lots of grumbling and floofing going on ,lots of side eye squinting, lots of reviewing of actions... one can presume...

 

[cujenn81]

In the article with the crime scene photos (of the car), the recovered money depicted is foreign currency. But maybe it’s equivalent to $50,000 US dollars.

https://angop.ao/noticias/sociedade/sic-esclarece-homicidio-de-missionario-norte-americano

This article only mentions a previous motorcycle theft in 2018 for the security guard. It sounds like he met the guys he allegedly hired in prison.

 

[airportwoman]

The whole criminal enterprise only lasted 4 days. Beau dead, Jackie charged with murder, in custody , 2 men charged with murder for hire, and in custody, one man still to be apprehended, charged with murder for hire ..

All that for 4 days. That's about 200 years prison time all up between the four of them.

That we know of, anyway.

 

[Trooper]

That we know of, anyway.

What I meant was, , the fantasy consequence only lasted 4 days.. from the killing, to the arrests and indictments.. the price to be paid for that seems so far out of rational thought that the basis for the concept must have been grounded in insanity of a collective mind hive.. ( the French always have a word, a phrase , for everything... )

Folie à Quatre​

When four people act on tbe same concept, the concept being clearly insane.

is this what you meant, or something else?? Did you mean my speculation on their sentencing cumulative?

oh well.. it suffices to say, it was a ridiculous , idiotic crime, It had no chance of success, and it seems, only one of them had the bright idea to , at least, try and make a run for the Namibian border, where folks can get lost for quite a while... Jackie, and the boyfriend, and his mate seemed to have stood round waiting for Manuel and the Angolan constables to knock on the door.. what was up with that silliness?? they might have had time to make it to Cameroon, or Chad, or South Sudan, join a cattle owning village .. ( don't quite know how Jackie would disguise herself, maybe they could make it to North Africa, Jackie covered head to toe , pretending to be a Berber, traipsing behind a pack of camels, )....

stop it , Trooper ...

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[Kemug]

They hadn't been back in Angola very long had they? In which case this may have been planned before they went home on furlough. That would have given Jackie the chance to get some money together, eg maybe sell a few things. And then she could hardly wait to get back.

 

[sasha17]

They hadn't been back in Angola very long had they? In which case this may have been planned before they went home on furlough. That would have given Jackie the chance to get some money together, eg maybe sell a few things. And then she could hardly wait to get back.

She has posts on her Instagram about traveling to various churches in the US while they were here in the summer, speaking and raising money. This post alone lists 5 churches she had visits scheduled at and the post says she'd been speaking at churches "Every Sunday, since we arrived in the States". I wonder how the money raised at these churches was managed. Was it handled completely by Jackie?

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[RickshawFan]

I just don’t understand how Jackie thought she was going to get away with this! Does she think Angolan LE are dumb?

Yes. Entitlement, ignorance, and lack of fellow-feeling. IMO likely Beau and Jackie completely misunderstood the country they were in, and they were disliked (the photos show lack of enthusiasm by locals). I'll bet it didn't even occur to her that she'd be charged in Angola, because she is not "them". Perhaps she assumed she'd be extradited (nope) or rescued.

 

[RickshawFan]

She has posts on her Instagram about traveling to various churches in the US while they were here in the summer, speaking and raising money. This post alone lists 5 churches she had visits scheduled at and the post says she'd been speaking at churches "Every Sunday, since we arrived in the States". I wonder how the money raised at these churches was managed. Was it handled completely by Jackie?

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This is how missionaries raise their "salaries".

 

[RickshawFan]

She has posts on her Instagram about traveling to various churches in the US while they were here in the summer, speaking and raising money. This post alone lists 5 churches she had visits scheduled at and the post says she'd been speaking at churches "Every Sunday, since we arrived in the States". I wonder how the money raised at these churches was managed. Was it handled completely by Jackie?

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That selfie is in a bathroom? I'm sorry, but that's weird.

 

[RickshawFan]

You'd have to have a bit of sympathy for the Ambassador , and particularly , Embassy staff, one of whom will be delegated for the next 40 years to over seeing Jackie's well being, pharmacy needs, dietic needs, clothing needs, footwear, books, etc, etc, etc.... someone wrote back a bit that she might be extradited, not really, the crime took place in Angola and that's where she serves her sentence, unless some wizard in the Foreign Affairs dept can rustle up some poor Angolan languishing in a a prison in Texas somewhere, and State Dept, agree to an exchange.. the chances of that would be slim to none.

It's such bad timing, too, with a Presidential visit coming up in December , to Angola..

One can only imagine how cross and peeved all the other missionaries are, the sturm und drang heaving around among the Baptists, and the Pentecostals and the Anglicans!,,, having to try and explain all this to their followers, all the huffing and pursed lips,, all the questioning of precepts, and faiths, and sermons, and principles, etc.. .. lots of grumbling and floofing going on ,lots of side eye squinting, lots of reviewing of actions... one can presume...

Did the Stroyers ever even mention other missionaries? The missionary community?

 

[RickshawFan]

You'd have to have a bit of sympathy for the Ambassador , and particularly , Embassy staff, one of whom will be delegated for the next 40 years to over seeing Jackie's well being, pharmacy needs, dietic needs, clothing needs, footwear, books, etc, etc, etc.... someone wrote back a bit that she might be extradited, not really, the crime took place in Angola and that's where she serves her sentence, unless some wizard in the Foreign Affairs dept can rustle up some poor Angolan languishing in a a prison in Texas somewhere, and State Dept, agree to an exchange.. the chances of that would be slim to none.

It's such bad timing, too, with a Presidential visit coming up in December , to Angola..

One can only imagine how cross and peeved all the other missionaries are, the sturm und drang heaving around among the Baptists, and the Pentecostals and the Anglicans!,,, having to try and explain all this to their followers, all the huffing and pursed lips,, all the questioning of precepts, and faiths, and sermons, and principles, etc.. .. lots of grumbling and floofing going on ,lots of side eye squinting, lots of reviewing of actions... one can presume...

They must all be pulling out their hair.

There's no reason IMO why she'd be extradited. There's no "wrongly" here, evidently.
Americans caught with drugs in Southeast Asia don't get extradited. Murder is next level. Note: Ghislaine Maxwell is still in a Florida prison, though she expected she'd be reclaimed by the UK.

And an agreement for a murderess swap would presumably be life in the US anyway. Scarcely an advantage, and no one tasked to provide necessities, as there might be in Angola.

 

[Lilibet]

That selfie is in a bathroom? I'm sorry, but that's weird.

It’s surprising the number of people who do that. I was going to post the same thing.

 

[Trooper]

Did the Stroyers ever even mention other missionaries? The missionary community?

Missionaries never mention other missionaries publicly, everyone knows that. Competition is fierce, and never ending, not a lot of collegiate mixing..

But.. at committee meetings, ye gods, it would be on for young and old. Plus, they all would be taking a very deep look at the women in their own mission, this is how things go south very quickly.. lots of backpeddling, and radical accusations, and god alone knows what else,

Probably lots of casting out of distasteful stuff in women, the usual stuff, women as seductress, the old Eve and Apple thingo... women being put back in the kitchen, the laundry, no more of this front and centre stuff, .... you know how it goes...

Only the Chinese mission would sail on, regardless, laying the rail, teaching the evolve's engineering, training up the drivers, teaching the technicians.... they never get involved with any of the personal laying on of hands , the praying, the casting out of whatnots, the glossolalia, and all this stuff,

They lay hands on hammers and nails. !

 

[Snoopster]

It’s surprising the number of people who do that. I was going to post the same thing.

I've seen her post a lot of 'bathroom selfies' of both her and her daughters. I presume that it is because it's at times when they are out somewhere special (with a nice bathroom) and they are more dressed up and made up than they are on typical days. And, these bathrooms have large mirrors that enable a more distant selfie.

 

[Kemug]

Yes. Entitlement, ignorance, and lack of fellow-feeling. IMO likely Beau and Jackie completely misunderstood the country they were in, and they were disliked (the photos show lack of enthusiasm by locals). I'll bet it didn't even occur to her that she'd be charged in Angola, because she is not "them". Perhaps she assumed she'd be extradited (nope) or rescued.

Truly a White Saviour

 

[Kemug]

Those poor children must feel so betrayed, and particularly the 2 oldest girls, who are old enough to understand what it was all about. What a good example of a mother! What a fine way to approach the difficult duty and privilege of raising adolescents!