MN - Beau Shroyer, Wife of Detroit Lakes missionary killed in Angola arrested in connection to his death

[Knox]

Seems the family of Beau are struggling with the State Dept...

"Our family has received alarmingly little official information surrounding Beau's death, the investigation, and legal proceedings," said Beau's sister, Marina Roering. "We've had to rely on only two sources of information, both who seem to have an interest in keeping Beau's story as quiet as possible."

( why would Marina be under this impression that she is being kept in the dark? _ _ )

'Roering says the State Department has stated to the media that they've been in touch with Beau's family, but she says that's not true.

"That contact consisted of a phone call to my dad, over a week after Beau's death, where he received the name, contact info, and office hours of the person he spoke to, a 24 hour phone number, and the name and phone number of the lead investigator. All phone numbers are international, and the lead investigator only speaks Portuguese."

She says they have had to learn the details of Beau's murder by translating news articles published in Angola.

"This is beyond frustrating, and we truly don't know where to turn for answers."

Roering has since set up a page to help with legal fees as the family navigates this challenging journey.

https://www.chvnradio.com/articles/...ola-wants-answers-launches--to-support-family

<modsnip - quoted post was fixed> Interesting information from his sister, she didn't offer any opinions about Jackie's guilt or innocence. More to the point, she didn't say "Jackie is not capable of doing something like this to my brother".

"Our family has received alarmingly little official information surrounding Beau's death, the investigation, and legal proceedings," said Beau's sister, Marina Roering. "We've had to rely on only two sources of information, both who seem to have an interest in keeping Beau's story as quiet as possible."

Is the other source she is referring to SIM?

 

[Cryptic]

And guards are staff on the outer perimeter of the living space (i.e. at the gate to the outside), not inside folks. It would be a big leap to make them familial, IMO, unlike, say, for a nanny, who would be at the most inner perimeter.

"Compounds" in Africa can vary in size from palatial to basic. Likewise, "perimeters" can vary from walls and gates that can hold back riots to gates largely out of scrap wood and walls that one clearly does not need to be Superman to clear in a "single bound".

I suspect the that the missionary compound could be on the modest side of compound life. As a result, the distance and difference between inside folks and outside folks could be slight. That would go double if one, or more, of the guards doubled as a driver.

 

[Cryptic]

Beau was a police officer for seven years, surely he understood boundaries.

Good point. One does not need to be a manager to understand boundaries.

But.... understanding boundaries and implementing those boundaries can be hard- especially when one is in a foreign country and does not understand the language.

 

[Cryptic]

I agree. It is clear, though, that the Shroyers knew it was not customary to mingle and establish personal relationships with site staff.

Knowing in theory and doing so in actuality can be two different things- especially in a foreign country whose language you do not speak and whose culture you dont really know.

 

[Knox]

I would have thought that SIM would cough up for the body transportation back to Minnesota and the college fund for the kids.. he was their employee...making them dither around with a go fund me, FOR A BURIAL!!... strange stuff, to me

SIM USA Statement Regarding The Death of Beau Shroyer
The global SIM community is heartbroken over the death of our friend and colleague Beau Shroyer, who was killed in a violent criminal attack in Angola on Friday, October 25. We are shocked and devastated to learn that his wife, Jackie Shroyer, has been arrested in connection with his death.

SIM is grateful to Angolan law enforcement for their diligence in investigating this matter and encourages patience and respect for all involved as the legal process unfolds. SIM remains committed to supporting the ongoing pursuit of justice for Beau and has taken steps to ensure that Jackie has appropriate legal representation.

The SIM USA leadership team is working closely with the SIM team in Angola and with the Shroyers’ home church, Lakes Area Vineyard Church in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, to care for the Shroyers’ five children and everyone else affected by this tragedy. We continue to keep them all in our prayers.

Out of respect for the ongoing investigation and those experiencing unimaginable grief and loss during this time, SIM is unable to provide further comment.

Update Nov 2024 | SIM USA

www.simusa.org

No mention of repatriation of Beau's remains which is a little odd. Even though nothing has been mentioned, I still feel there was insurance coverage - whether paid for by SIM or privately purchased.

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[Trooper]

SIM USA Statement Regarding The Death of Beau Shroyer
The global SIM community is heartbroken over the death of our friend and colleague Beau Shroyer, who was killed in a violent criminal attack in Angola on Friday, October 25. We are shocked and devastated to learn that his wife, Jackie Shroyer, has been arrested in connection with his death.

SIM is grateful to Angolan law enforcement for their diligence in investigating this matter and encourages patience and respect for all involved as the legal process unfolds. SIM remains committed to supporting the ongoing pursuit of justice for Beau and has taken steps to ensure that Jackie has appropriate legal representation.

The SIM USA leadership team is working closely with the SIM team in Angola and with the Shroyers’ home church, Lakes Area Vineyard Church in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, to care for the Shroyers’ five children and everyone else affected by this tragedy. We continue to keep them all in our prayers.

Out of respect for the ongoing investigation and those experiencing unimaginable grief and loss during this time, SIM is unable to provide further comment.

Update Nov 2024 | SIM USA

www.simusa.org

No mention of repatriation of Beau's remains which is a little odd. Even though nothing has been mentioned, I still feel there was insurance coverage - whether paid for by SIM or privately purchased.

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Without being indelicate, surely by now he would be buried?? somewhere?? Angola is a tropical country, not subtropical, It's the same latitude as..Brazisilia, Brazil,, as Darwin, AU, no one would leave anyone unburied in Darwin for very long... I would be doubtful if his body could be actually stored in Luanda, much less Lubango..

 

[Cryptic]

I would be doubtful if his body could be actually stored in Luanda, much less Lubango..

For the average African, your observations is very true.

But.... developing countries can have near the same level of resources as the United States- well, if and only if you are one of the top what 5% of the population with access to those resources. A "favor needed" phone call from the US embassy would probably put Beau into that top 5% bracket.

As a result, a, well, freezer could be made available. Probably at an upper end private hospital. Other "special needs" possibilities could include the national crime lab, a medical college, military medical unit etc.

 

[Trooper]

For the average African, your observations is very true.

But.... developing countries can have near the same level of resources as the United States- well, if and only if you are one of the top what 5% of the population with access to those resources. A "favor needed" phone call from the US embassy would probably put Beau into that top 5% bracket.

As a result, a, well, freezer could be made available. Probably at an upper end private hospital. Other "special needs" possibilities could include the national crime lab, a medical college, military medical unit etc.

oh yeah. for sure..

so you reckon Beau is 'resting' as they say in some circles, in some military medical unit in Angola.. awaiting the funds raised to wrap him up in stainless steel .. repatriation of bodies is a big business, almost as big as shifting racehorses around the world, there are specialists airlines that focus on this particular job and it's highly competitive. But it is a matter of money up front, they don't do it on spec.

There is only one private hospital in Luanda, none in Lubango, and the one in Luanda is a maternity hospital, it might not be equipped to hold a chilled adult body. . . I would doubt that it was, actually.. . all the others are public hospitals, as befits a progressive country, and one is a private/public, run by the Seventh Day Adventists.. not sure if they take on holding dead bodies for long... due to some principle, or something..

 

[Trooper]

For the average African, your observations is very true.

But.... developing countries can have near the same level of resources as the United States- well, if and only if you are one of the top what 5% of the population with access to those resources. A "favor needed" phone call from the US embassy would probably put Beau into that top 5% bracket.

As a result, a, well, freezer could be made available. Probably at an upper end private hospital. Other "special needs" possibilities could include the national crime lab, a medical college, military medical unit etc.

Of course, someone could transport the body to Windhoek, in Namibia, they might have some sort of arrangement, and also, access to direct flights.. has more private hospitals, too.. but that means crossing a national border with a deceased person, lots of paperwork..

 

[Trooper]

For the average African, your observations is very true.

But.... developing countries can have near the same level of resources as the United States- well, if and only if you are one of the top what 5% of the population with access to those resources. A "favor needed" phone call from the US embassy would probably put Beau into that top 5% bracket.

As a result, a, well, freezer could be made available. Probably at an upper end private hospital. Other "special needs" possibilities could include the national crime lab, a medical college, military medical unit etc.

I am not your average African..... I'm about 12,968 klm east distant from that category.

 

[Cryptic]

oh yeah. for sure..

so you reckon Beau is 'resting' as they say in some circles, in some military medical unit in Angola.. awaiting the funds raised to wrap him up in stainless steel .. repatriation of bodies is a big business, almost as big as shifting racehorses around the world, there are specialists airlines that focus on this particular job and it's highly competitive. But it is a matter of money up front, they don't do it on spec.

There is only one private hospital in Luanda, none in Lubango, and the one in Luanda is a maternity hospital, it might not be equipped to hold a chilled adult body. . . I would doubt that it was, actually.. . all the others are public hospitals, as befits a progressive country, and one is a private/public, run by the Seventh Day Adventists.. not sure if they take on holding dead bodies for long...

Well equipped public, private or semi private hospitals, a medical college, national crime lab, or military medical unit.... I am confident that a comfortable resting place can be found for Beau if..... the US Embassy has an interest in asking the Angolan government for a favor.

I agree- He cant rest there (where ever "there" is) indefintely and the copious quantity of cash needed for the repatriation will be up to the family. As you stated, getting the cash there fast is a must.

 

[SpliffanyLee]

I know, it seems like such an unlikely thing to happen... makes me worry that she might be being framed for the murder or something like that. I don't know who would do that, but maybe someone who had reason to cover up their own involvement, or I think even more likely, someone who would benefit from gaining the family's assets. Get him out of the way by killing him and then to make sure she doesn't stand in their way by framing her for his murder. I don't know if they would have even had valuable assets of their own that officials or agencies would stand to gain upon his death and her removal. Another motive might be to somehow protect the reputation or safeguard their standing in local, national or even international realms. If he were really killed by someone local or some official or government actor, for example.

Where are the 5 kids is what I want to know. <modsnip - speculation outside the bounds of the known facts of the case

 

[Trooper]

Well equipped public, private or semi private hospitals, a medical college, national crime lab, or military medical unit.... I am confident that a comfortable resting place can be found for Beau if..... the US Embassy has an interest in asking for a favor.

I agree- He cant rest there (where ever "there" is) indefintely and the copious quantity of cash needed for the repatriation will be up to the family. As you implied, it is going to need to be raised soon.

Maybe the Angolan police, and our hardworking Superintendent , Manuel , is in no hurry to release the body to the rellies... ..some tests he might want run that require imported pharmacy items, some holdup with a forensic staffer.. .. could be lots of reasons... or he might have been cremated, due to lack of formaldehyde to preserve him.. lack of the amount required, I mean... Maybe the Angolan police just have not told anyone that, yet...

Perhaps not as comfortable, as resting places go, but.. it is a tropical country, these things are done differently under those conditions..

 

[RickshawFan]

Tried to fix the link to the news story, but can't get it to post correctly. Interesting information from his sister, she didn't offer any opinions about Jackie's guilt or innocence. More to the point, she didn't say "Jackie is not capable of doing something like this to my brother".

"Our family has received alarmingly little official information surrounding Beau's death, the investigation, and legal proceedings," said Beau's sister, Marina Roering. "We've had to rely on only two sources of information, both who seem to have an interest in keeping Beau's story as quiet as possible."

Is the other source she is referring to SIM?

It’s hard to know what she means by “Beau’s story”.

Also, as WS-ers well know, it’s typical for LE to be tight-lipped when they’re developing a case, and evidently they’re still missing one perp.

I imagine SIM would be unhappy about its reputation being besmirched, and that may give them reason to not talk. Perhaps they also have some legal exposure. What did they know about the Shroyers before they came to Angola and while they were there? There might have been issues even before the murder?

 

[Trooper]

Where are the 5 kids is what I want to know. <modsnip - speculation outside the bounds of the known facts of the case>

Jackie's mother has been flown in to Angola to babysit, and probably , to visit her daughter, if that's allowed ... Jackie's lucky she is imprisoned in Angola, it's one of the few places in Africa that has separate prisons for women and men, most other places , it's all in together, .... imagine that, for a dose of horror...

 

[RickshawFan]

Of course, someone could transport the body to Windhoek, in Namibia, they might have some sort of arrangement, and also, access to direct flights.. has more private hospitals, too.. but that means crossing a national border with a deceased person, lots of paperwork..

Put it in the Embassy pouch?

Interesting they aren’t doing cremation, because the remains might be quite damaged. I’ll bet the body hasn’t been released yet. We’re at 3 weeks or so?

 

[Trooper]

It’s hard to know what she means by “Beau’s story”.

Also, as WS-ers well know, it’s typical for LE to be tight-lipped when they’re developing a case, and evidently they’re still missing one perp.

I imagine SIM would be unhappy about its reputation being besmirched, and that may give them reason to not talk. Perhaps they also have some legal exposure. What did they know about the Shroyers before they came to Angola and while they were there? There might have been issues even before the murder?

Yes , what does this mean , BEAU'S STORY? It has me intrigued.

 

[RickshawFan]

For the average African, your observations is very true.

But.... developing countries can have near the same level of resources as the United States- well, if and only if you are one of the top what 5% of the population with access to those resources. A "favor needed" phone call from the US embassy would probably put Beau into that top 5% bracket.

As a result, a, well, freezer could be made available. Probably at an upper end private hospital. Other "special needs" possibilities could include the national crime lab, a medical college, military medical unit etc.

It’s not my experience that developing countries have the same resources as the US in any respect, and especially not in the medical arena. That’s why they’re termed “developing”. Wealthy folks in developing countries fly elsewhere to get medical treatment.

 

[RickshawFan]

Without being indelicate, surely by now he would be buried?? somewhere?? Angola is a tropical country, not subtropical, It's the same latitude as..Brazisilia, Brazil,, as Darwin, AU, no one would leave anyone unburied in Darwin for very long... I would be doubtful if his body could be actually stored in Luanda, much less Lubango..

Maybe the medical examiner has a fridge? You’d thinks so. This would not be the only case where they might have to wait a while for toxicology results or a complete report. Consider how long it took for that couple and their baby who were on a hike in blistering heat in northern CA. It took months.

 

[RickshawFan]

Yes , what does this mean , BEAU'S STORY? It has me intrigued.

IMO there’s a very substantial and dark underbelly to this whole event, including the churches, the missionary organization, the perps, the Shroyers, families…

Come to think of it, did the Shroyers ever speak of going to church in Angola in their SM? Photos? I haven’t heard anything said, and that would be pretty strange…