MN - Beau Shroyer, Wife of Detroit Lakes missionary killed in Angola arrested in connection to his death

[Knox]

I suspect it was more about being rid of Beau, but keeping her reputation intact. I know it doesn’t make sense to us, but if she’s a widow it’s a much more sympathetic scenario than if she ran off with a man half her age. Especially in christian circles. If there were life insurance policies, there is a financial bonus as well.

Men kill their wives all the time - and the thread ia filled with posts - “why couldn’t he have just divorced her”.

The hope we learn factual information soon, all the supposition is getting stale.

 

[Trooper]

When it comes to trial, for Jacki, it will seem odd to her, she would go before a panel of judges, not a jury, the Portuguese/Angola system is one based on inquisitorial, not adversarial postions, and , I regret to inform, the likelihood of one of those judges being a Christian is high, and Jackie being a missionary will be viewed skeptically, in deed. How the other three fare is anyone's guess.. Not good, in any sense of the word, but perhaps, not as severe as Jackie's crime will be seen to be. ..

 

[Kemug]

Beautiful knife

Actually, how did Jackie get that knife into the country? Years ago, when flying into New Guinea, I had to declare if I was carrying all sorts of things - I particularly remember knuckle dusters and playing cards!

 

[RickshawFan]

Not sure if this has been posted, but a local (Angolan) source from 7 Nov says the SIC spokesman said it was $9400, of which about half had been converted to “4.5 million kwanzaas”.

Also,

American woman who ordered her husband's murder in Angola arrested for aggravated murder

National authorities confirmed this Thursday the arrest of American citizen Jacqueline Shroyer and two Angolans, accused of the death of an American missionary, Beau Shoyer, on October 25, in the province of Huíla, in the south of the country.

www.verangola.net

This seems to suggest there was a pipeline of millions of dollars coming into that mission.

 

[iamshadow21]

This seems to suggest there was a pipeline of millions of dollars coming into that mission.

But not a lot of actual missionary work being done.

MOO

 

[IQuestion]

Inside the murder of a missionary in Angola, allegedly planned by his wife and her lover in $50K ‘crime of passion’

Beau, wife Jackie Shroyer and their five children had been in "the remote bush" in the West African nation since setting up a mission there in 2021.

www.aol.com

This AOL article is just a repost of earlier reports, but there were some pictures I hadn't seen before, including a close-up of the cash found at the scene.
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The caption says, "Police recovered an American-made knife that they say was used in the murder at the crime scene. They also discovered the equivalent of nearly $5,000 in cash in local Angolan currency. Amelia Oliveira – ANGOP"

But if the reporter had done five minutes of research they would have learned that the cash pictured above isn't Angolan. After looking at a lot of African currencies online, I believe that it's the Namibian Dollar which looks like this:
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The thing is that 5000 USD is equivalent to 90,200 NAD. And the wad of bills displayed is not enough for that amount of cash. So, I believe that the reporting that the authorities recovered the equivalent of 5,000 USD is just wrong. In all likelihood it seems like they recovered 5,000 NAD which is the equivalent of 277 USD.

Does that mean that the other large sums of cash that have been thrown around (50K USD and 9K USD) are wrong as well? Could be.

Happy Thanksgiving to all and smile with friends!! Eat, drink and be merry. (Sorry but my appetite is already kicking in for tomorrow.) Besides me, does anyone else wonder about the cell phone resting on the corner of the cash on the table??? Surely these "hired killers" would not be stupid enough to keep the same phones they used for texts & phone calls? (Who am I kidding...of course criminals would never think of disposing a perfectly good cell phone, huh?) I wondered if the cell phone was used to keep the paper currency from blowing away since it was just sitting outside in plain view, on a sheet covered table?? Then I really started wondering if all their collection of evidence (Yep, the knife!) is kept on full view and accessible to anyone who could just pick it up and wipe off fingerprints? (After all these years I still have "Dennis Fung flashbacks anxiety" on the collection, cataloguing, chain of custody and securing of evidence...) Obviously there would/could be DNA of the victim on the knife...but whose is on the handle?? Hmmm. guess it could be a lot of people by now as it doesn't appear to be securely packaged. Well, if a suspect complains about the "fine nuances of evidence collection" perhaps they shouldn't be a part of a crime in a foreign country from the start?

 

[RickshawFan]

Happy Thanksgiving to all and smile with friends!! Eat, drink and be merry. (Sorry but my appetite is already kicking in for tomorrow.) Besides me, does anyone else wonder about the cell phone resting on the corner of the cash on the table??? Surely these "hired killers" would not be stupid enough to keep the same phones they used for texts & phone calls? (Who am I kidding...of course criminals would never think of disposing a perfectly good cell phone, huh?) I wondered if the cell phone was used to keep the paper currency from blowing away since it was just sitting outside in plain view, on a sheet covered table?? Then I really started wondering if all their collection of evidence (Yep, the knife!) is kept on full view and accessible to anyone who could just pick it up and wipe off fingerprints? (After all these years I still have "Dennis Fung flashbacks anxiety" on the collection, cataloguing, chain of custody and securing of evidence...) Obviously there would/could be DNA of the victim on the knife...but whose is on the handle?? Hmmm. guess it could be a lot of people by now as it doesn't appear to be securely packaged. Well, if a suspect complains about the "fine nuances of evidence collection" perhaps they shouldn't be a part of a crime in a foreign country from the start?

IIRC the phone belonged to a perp. A phone like that would be a luxury in many parts of the world. I assume the perp didn’t want to throw it away. Besides, these days LE gets data without the phone, so the actual phone is getting to be irrelevant as far as who is communicating with whom and/or texting. Some things would be difficult to get without the physical phone, but, it seems, not a lot.

I wonder if LE took photos at the crime scene? At the autopsy?

 

[Kemug]

We haven't heard anything about the 3rd perp being caught. He's probably far away by now.

 

[Trooper]

We haven't heard anything about the 3rd perp being caught. He's probably far away by now.

Or he 's run into a maddened hippo..... they kill more people in Africa, from north to south, east to west than any other animal.. And I think he did the runner without the money, too..... rough times.

 

[RickshawFan]

Happy Thanksgiving to all and smile with friends!! Eat, drink and be merry. (Sorry but my appetite is already kicking in for tomorrow.) Besides me, does anyone else wonder about the cell phone resting on the corner of the cash on the table??? Surely these "hired killers" would not be stupid enough to keep the same phones they used for texts & phone calls? (Who am I kidding...of course criminals would never think of disposing a perfectly good cell phone, huh?) I wondered if the cell phone was used to keep the paper currency from blowing away since it was just sitting outside in plain view, on a sheet covered table?? Then I really started wondering if all their collection of evidence (Yep, the knife!) is kept on full view and accessible to anyone who could just pick it up and wipe off fingerprints? (After all these years I still have "Dennis Fung flashbacks anxiety" on the collection, cataloguing, chain of custody and securing of evidence...) Obviously there would/could be DNA of the victim on the knife...but whose is on the handle?? Hmmm. guess it could be a lot of people by now as it doesn't appear to be securely packaged. Well, if a suspect complains about the "fine nuances of evidence collection" perhaps they shouldn't be a part of a crime in a foreign country from the start?

Something I totally don’t understand. That knife is bizarre. Why in heck would you use a knife like that in a murder, when you could use a machete and disappear it among the billion others in Angola? And most people on the continent south of the Sahara are effective machete-wielders. Dunno about North.
It seems the knife was made in the US. Is this yet another arrogant jab of Jackie’s, as in “If we’re gonna do it right, we’ve got to use American made, so I bought you a really good one. Super nice gift. We can afford it, though. Love having you in our family.”

 

[RickshawFan]

Or he 's run into a maddened hippo..... they kill more people in Africa, from north to south, east to west than any other animal.. And I think he did the runner without the money, too..... rough times.

Don’t get me started with the hippos and the dangers thereof…

 

[RickshawFan]

We haven't heard anything about the 3rd perp being caught. He's probably far away by now.

I thought maybe they were waiting on catching him before they made more announcements on case development.

 

[ch_13]

It seems the knife was made in the US.

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I suspect that this is another thing that the reporting got wrong. The knife looks like a generic utility knife with a serrated blade, like you might find in any suburban big box store. Usually those types of knives are made in China not in the U.S. There are still a few manufacturers making knives in America, but they tend to be higher-end with forged blades.

The knife may have been purchased in America by the Shroyer family and brought to Angola, but I don't think it was really made in the U.S.A.

Knife closeup:

 

[Kemug]

Something I totally don’t understand. That knife is bizarre. Why in heck would you use a knife like that in a murder, when you could use a machete and disappear it among the billion others in Angola? And most people on the continent south of the Sahara are effective machete-wielders. Dunno about North.
It seems the knife was made in the US. Is this yet another arrogant jab of Jackie’s, as in “If we’re gonna do it right, we’ve got to use American made, so I bought you a really good one. Super nice gift. We can afford it, though. Love having you in our family.”

Easier to hide on your person than a machete.

 

[starlightstarbright]

Easier to hide on your person than a machete.

This knife also screams, look, this woman gave it to me to commit this murder, which is exactly the sort of message you’d want to be sending if you were trying to make a case you were coerced to be a hitman, even if that’s not the full truth. MOO

 

[IQuestion]

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I suspect that this is another thing that the reporting got wrong. The knife looks like a generic utility knife with a serrated blade, like you might find in any suburban big box store. Usually those types of knives are made in China not in the U.S. There are still a few manufacturers making knives in America, but they tend to be higher-end with forged blades.

The knife may have been purchased in America by the Shroyer family and brought to Angola, but I don't think it was really made in the U.S.A.

Knife closeup:
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CH-13(snipped for emphasis) "The knife looks like a generic utility knife with a serrated blade, like you might find in any suburban big box store." Great close up! Yep, it does look as if it could be part of a set of steak knives. The smooth ebony handles and gold inlay bands, slim profile add a touch elegance to table service...And a poor choice for a murder weapon!! There is no protective sheath, so a killer's hand would slide down the handle in an attack. But, as @Kemug stated, "A lot easier to hide than a machete." Or, as I think, a lot easier to just steal from a kitchen set in the Shroyer household. Remember, they had been robbed twice, even with guards while the family slept. I'm no great sleuth, but two robberies when you have guards screams inside job. Oh geez...wasn't Bernadino a security guard for that company and recently "released" from their employment???? And lo and behold, the security company is replaced by Bernadino himself!! (Just another enterprising young man or a conniving opportunist?) The more I look at this, I am developing a differnt "process/motive" but with the same tragic outcome. If Beau (RIP young father) was deciding to leave for the "percieved" safety of his family, I am thinking it would have been smarter to not let anyone know in advance. IE just say, "We are going on a 6 week church tour to raise money for our mission." Pack appropriately, and then just not return. It is safer and less drama/trauma. (Worked for me when I left a relationship 30 years ago) Afterall, couldn't their "mission sponsors/company/organization" have recalled them, closed down, or decided it was unsafe at their discretion at any time? Sponsored service comes with obligations and expectations of results...not just "financial support in perpetuity" for existing in a foreign or exotic locale, right?
Sure the "money" is a little hard to explain...but since the amount was so little, it could have been Bernadino's pay and the rest from theft at the Shroyer household? Sorry, I just can't buy the romance with a guy young enough to be her son. The equivalent of a Hollywood wife ditching her husband for the minimum wage poolboy....I just can't wrap my brain around it.

 

[Knox]

BEAU SHROYER CELEBRATION OF LIFE SERVICE

https://fb.watch/wbxDUfkm00

 

[doublestop]

I can't bring myself to watch this, but can anyone tell if the kids are there?

 

[RickshawFan]

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I suspect that this is another thing that the reporting got wrong. The knife looks like a generic utility knife with a serrated blade, like you might find in any suburban big box store. Usually those types of knives are made in China not in the U.S. There are still a few manufacturers making knives in America, but they tend to be higher-end with forged blades.

The knife may have been purchased in America by the Shroyer family and brought to Angola, but I don't think it was really made in the U.S.A.

Knife closeup:
View attachment 547919

It’s definitely a strange knife. And it doesn’t look that expensive, just fake expensive. It’s sharp on both sides of the blade? It’s like a dagger with teeth.

Here’s a thought. Maybe Jackie bought it in Angola, it was counterfeit, and simply had “Made in USA” stamped on it. You see all kinds of knock-offs in the markets of developing countries.

 

[IQuestion]

Lots of Beau's relatives (cousins, aunt, uncle, sister) and many spoke of him. Hunter, ornithology, good sense of humor.
Except for one mention of "J's" name ...No one spoke about her. She is apparently "off limits" to any discussion. Makes me wonder if it is a case of: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything."??
Hmmm, I may have to rethink my scenario. Definitely got the persona non grata vibe in that regard.