MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #10 - Chauvin Trial Day 7

[Katerz]

Haha court tv cut to a break just as al sharpton stepped to the mic

 

[missy1974]

Right I'm going back AGAIN. I went back on this part that came up yesterday and the stills from across the shoulder blade were from different times much later on...

can you tell me what was the time stamp on the photo's you shared? Just trying to save some time and put these times into perspective.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

We might need an expert regarding the video of knee placement/perspective.

Does anyone know if there's an expert witness to go over this on the witness list?

 

[margarita25]

I'm headed to get 2nd Pfizer shot..Yipee.... can someone link up Washington Post YouTube for todays' live stream when becomes available as I will be driving. (None are up now from any station live for today)

TIA

(congrats Dixie )

 

[Linda7NJ]

time from those still photo's were:

ex 1045 8:23:32
ex 1046 8:26:40 (similar to placement as the previous)
ex 1047 8:27:49 another angle, because officer is standing up.
ex 1048 8:28:29

DAMN

HUGE hole in prosecution case

We might need an expert regarding the video of knee placement/perspective.

Does anyone know if there's an expert witness to go over this on the witness list?

The bodycam is RIGHT THERE & shot from 2 angles

bystander is across the street

DEVASTATING to the narrative that’s been out there for a year!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

We don’t know at what point exactly Floyd lost consciousness verses when pulse was lost, time wise, and what Chauvin knew & when

Exactly! This is what the trial is about. That he didn't check, and that it wasn't even a concern of Chauvin.

GOOD POINT! in your buttress of that fact and that you agree in your opinion. So you are at the bottom charge then?

 

[missy1974]

I’m surprised over this revelation. I’ve seen videos from the crowds perspective where the knee appears to be on his neck. From the body cam perspective that appears not to be the case.

Maybe the prosecution will show body cam footage where the knee is on the neck. I don’t think they have such footage.

I had expected that yesterday and they didn't show any body cam footage to dispute it. Now today, again they didn't show any to dispute it.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Right I'm going back AGAIN. I went back on this part that came up yesterday and the stills from across the shoulder blade were from different times much later on...

If the prosecution has any body cam footage that shows the knee on his neck then they need to come with it. IMO Maybe they will but since they haven’t, I’m not sure it exists.

 

[CrimeAway]

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The neck does not begin at the shoulder blades as far as I know from my university anatomy training.

Neck Anatomy: Overview, Quadrangular Area, Osteology: The Cervical Spine

 

[MsBetsy]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> I've been watching from the beginning but I haven't seen the entire thing. When did they establish that his knee was not on his neck? Was it the same image they showed yesterday?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Exactly! This is what the trial is about. That he didn't check, and that it wasn't even a concern of Chauvin.

GOOD POINT! in your buttress of that fact and that you agree in your opinion. So you are at the bottom charge then?

I haven’t reached an opinion yet. I want to hear all the evidence

 

[Linda7NJ]

I've been watching from the beginning but I haven't seen the entire thing. When did they establish that his knee was not on his neck? Was it the same image they showed yesterday?

Nelson showed more, minutes apart

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Yes, but how often do you encounter someone that was thrashing around and couldn’t be restrained by one man, nor three men to simply put him in a car ? Needed to be restrained for their own safety as well as others ?

Exactly! Thanks for pointing out so much for prosecution side.

Indeed, so many may agree that until he was on to the ground that was indeed violent, but didn't cross the line until Chauvin had his knee etc. And then was no longer thrashing around. Many/most will agree at that point, was ok.. violent, but ok.

Then, the knee etc... changes all that.

Thanks for pointing out so much for the charges here on threads so focuses on when all changed, it appears from your posts in your view perhaps as is prior to on the ground at this post.

Thanks for pointing such out.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

maybe - or maybe GF overdosed

Exactly, thanks for pointing that out that that is where the defense is going! Doesn't fly at all as we have discussed here.

The cause of death is most often multi-factorial with a multitude of causes. We had this discussion so many times in the COVID thread.

As this relates to the COVID discussion, assume you have a patient that and was a smoker, had high blood pressure, was morbidly obese, and had diabetes... And then they got COVID. He died of COVID but all the others are indirect cause of death. COVID was the direct cause of death.

He died of cardiopulmonary arrest. Add in asphyxia (no oxygen to brain and heart from blood) For GF, Chauvin et al was the direct cause of GF's death per both autopsy results, and was noted a homicide as manner of death. Prolonged compression asphyxia and positional asphyxia contributed MOO.

No matter his heart condition or drugs, LE minimally hastened his death. I don't see any way around that.

MOO

 

[margarita25]

DC’s knee is on GF’s neck JMO MOO IMO.

Did Williams and GH use the word “neck”? They were there. They would also be qualified enough to distinguish this.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Exactly! Thanks for pointing out so much for prosecution side.

Indeed, so many may agree that until he was on to the ground that was indeed violent, but didn't cross the line until Chauvin had his knee etc. And then was no longer thrashing around. Many/most will agree at that point, was ok.. violent, but ok.

Then, the knee etc... changes all that.

Thanks for pointing out so much for the charges here on threads so focuses on when all changed, it appears from your posts in your view perhaps as is prior to on the ground at this post.

Thanks for pointing such out.

You’re leaving out other testimony on the use of force & discretion

 

[CrimeAway]

I haven’t reached an opinion yet. I want to hear all the evidence

THANK YOU!!!

This is so important IMO.

This is what I thought WS was all about?

 

[Katerz]

Talking heads on court tv are saying that defense was MH to testify about the drugs which would then turn the blame from Chauvin killing Floyd with his knee and no CPR, to MH for giving Floyd the drugs that “killed” him.

 

[MsBetsy]

time from those still photo's were:

ex 1045 8:23:32
ex 1046 8:26:40 (similar to placement as the previous)
ex 1047 8:27:49 another angle, because officer is standing up.
ex 1048 8:28:29

How do we know those weren't the times that he adjusted his knee, and then put it back down on his neck again? It still doesn't explain why he didn't do anything to help Floyd. One of the officers stated that he wasn't responsive, and one said he didn't have a pulse. How could Chauvin not have heard that? He knew he didn't have a pulse for a minute and a half before he stopped restraining him.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

DAMN

HUGE hole in prosecution case


The bodycam is RIGHT THERE & shot from 2 angles

bystander is across the street

DEVASTATING to the narrative that’s been out there for a year!

As I've said before, you can thank the media for that.