MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #12 - Chauvin Trial Day 9

[MsBetsy]

back to work, but before I go.....

Court TV is replaying the information regarding the ate too/ain't do testimony.

Listening this morning, I think I heard GF say, "Get off my face". Did anyone else hear that? ( shortly before the ate/ain't statement.)

I heard him say, "my face is gone," and "my face cut up bad," right before the "ain't do" comment so it's possible he did say "get off my face."

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Exhibit 949 screenshot taken from 20:21:44. This exhibit moves around from back to front, just doing one screenshot here vs. multiple

 

[Katerz]

“His knee was on the neck 90% of the time”.

i hope Nelson doesn’t sound hostile or rude with this witness. If the witness is likable to us, I can imagine he’d be likable to the jury as well. And being hostile or rude may come off wrong. JMO

 

[sds71]

The illustration/animation of a snap-shot on time.

https://twitter.com/rochelleolson/status/1380170339330719747?s=20

 

[Niner]

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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2m
#DerekChauvinTrial - Tobins says #GeorgeFloyd death caused by: Handcuffed, prone position, knee on neck, on back. Shows these diagrams.




Tobin says the effects on the breathing are very similar whether the knee is on the neck or the back.




link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[BUF]

This witness explains things in layman terms, so easy to understand.

Great visuals too.

 

[Katerz]

This witness explains things in layman terms, so easy to understand.

Great visuals too.

I agree. What got me was when he just said he was squished. Pressure on his back, and pressure on his chest.

 

[Algo214]

I'm leaning towards 2nd degree, heavily.

Paraphrased "is almost as if a surgeon had removed his lungs"

 

[Niner]

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
·
9m
#DerekChauvinTrial - Note: Per Dr. Tobin's opinion, knee on neck or knee on back - both have similar effects on breathing. That's not going to help Kueng at his trial.



Dr. Tobin involving the jury in his testimony by telling them to notice what their diaphragm does when they take a breath in and out.

Dr. Tobin says #GeorgeFloyd couldn't do any front to back movement due to being squished between the officers on him and the pavement.

Dr. Tobin says there was virtually little opportunity for Floyd to get any air in his left lung due to knee on neck.

Tobin says the officer holding Floyd's left hand in what we've heard is a "pain compliance" position is pressing his own wrist into the back of his chest and contributing to the inability to breathe effectively.




link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[missy1974]

“His knee was on the neck 90% of the time”.

i hope Nelson doesn’t sound hostile or rude with this witness. If the witness is likable to us, I can imagine he’d be likable to the jury as well. And being hostile or rude may come off wrong. JMO

I've watched a lot of trials. Nelson is very laid back and calm compared to defense attorney I have watched IMO

Good morning everyone!

 

[missy1974]

Grabbed this snip:

 

[missy1974]

Do we know who the defense has on their list for experts? @sds71 ?

 

[turaj]

I've watched a lot of trials. Nelson is very laid back and calm compared to defense attorney I have watched IMO

Good morning everyone!

I am not 100% sure he believes in his case...just my feeling and could be some jurors think that way too?

 

[missy1974]

red lines are tongue/empty space

Took a snip of this because I think it will be important later.

 

[turaj]

Boy how does Nelson approach this witness...he almost has to ask questions of him and not sure where he will get.

 

[sds71]

Do we know who the defense has on their list for experts? @sds71 ?

All Medical/Scientific Experts have been retained through:
The Forensics Panel
224 West 30th Street
Suite 806
New York, New York 10001

Forensic Pathology
Primary Examiner:
David R. Fowler, MB, ChB. M.Med. Path.
Peer Reviewers:
William R. Oliver, M.D., M.S., M.P.A
Brian L. Peterson, M.D.
Ljubisa Jovan Dragovic, M.D., F.C.A.P., F.A.A.F.S. Kanthi DeAlwis, M.D.
Kimberly Ann Collins, M.D.
Forensic Toxicology
Primary Examiner:
Gary W. Kunsman, PH.D., F-ABFT
Peer Reviewers:
Aahraf Mozayani, PHARM.D., PH.D., F-ABFT Lionel Raymon, PHARM. D., PH.D.
Sara J. Schreiber, MS
Forensic Psychiatry:
Dr. Michael Welner
Emergency Medicine:
Dr. Kai Sturmann

USE OF FORCE AND/OR MPD POLICY AND PROCEDURE
27-CR-20-12646
Filed in District Court State of Minnesota 1/15/2021 3:17 PM
Barry Brodd Bozeman, MT

https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/me...20-12646/InitialExpertDisclosures01152021.pdf

 

[missy1974]

I am not 100% sure he believes in his case...just my feeling and could be some jurors think that way too?

ETA: I'm talking about Nelson, not the witness

I don't know about that, it's hard to tell without having something to compare it to, like past cases.
Am I wrong that he has defended LE previously? Is this his "thing"?

 

[Blondiexoxo]

Grabbed this snip:

View attachment 291867

Oh wow. The fear in GF’s eyes in the lower right picture is heartbreaking. The knee is very clearly on his neck and also pushing his face into the pavement IMO.

 

[Niner]

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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8m
#DerekChauvinTrial - Tobin:clearer view how his left wrist is being "rammed in" his back. Also noting second pic showing GF pushing his knuckles against the tire to lift right shoulder off the street. "This is his only way to try to get air in his right lung"




Tobin: On the left side GF is trying to take a breath in. On the right side he's breathing out. "The shoulder is an ineffective way of breathing" but it's what you have to do when everything else is failing.

Tobin again interacting with jurors asking them to take their fingers and place them on either side of the Adam's apple....




Looks like prosecutor Blackwell was also doing the demonstration.



Cathy Russon Retweeted
Brian G. Buckmire
@BuckEsq
·
5m
The strongest argument I can think of as a defense attorney is that this testimony focuses on struggling to breath. Not the source of the struggle. But if you expand past that into an area that this witness is an expert be careful he doesn’t destroy your cross. Let’s wait and see


link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[missy1974]

All Medical/Scientific Experts have been retained through:
The Forensics Panel
224 West 30th Street
Suite 806
New York, New York 10001

Forensic Pathology
Primary Examiner:
David R. Fowler, MB, ChB. M.Med. Path.
Peer Reviewers:
William R. Oliver, M.D., M.S., M.P.A
Brian L. Peterson, M.D.
Ljubisa Jovan Dragovic, M.D., F.C.A.P., F.A.A.F.S. Kanthi DeAlwis, M.D.
Kimberly Ann Collins, M.D.
Forensic Toxicology
Primary Examiner:
Gary W. Kunsman, PH.D., F-ABFT
Peer Reviewers:
Aahraf Mozayani, PHARM.D., PH.D., F-ABFT Lionel Raymon, PHARM. D., PH.D.
Sara J. Schreiber, MS
Forensic Psychiatry:
Dr. Michael Welner
Emergency Medicine:
Dr. Kai Sturmann

USE OF FORCE AND/OR MPD POLICY AND PROCEDURE
27-CR-20-12646
Filed in District Court State of Minnesota 1/15/2021 3:17 PM
Barry Brodd Bozeman, MT

https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/me...20-12646/InitialExpertDisclosures01152021.pdf

Thank you!!! You rock!