MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #14 - Chauvin Trial Day 11

[turaj]

I think that there are at this point some jurors that are tuned out on this guy....I think judge watches the jury closely and bet he said get moving you are losing them.

 

[missy1974]

I think that there are at this point some jurors that are tuned out on this guy....I think judge watches the jury closely and bet he said get moving you are losing them.

I am feeling... if this is the end of their witnesses... it is not a strong end, but we will see what this guy says after the blah blah blah part.

And before anyone replies.. yes, I'm aware they will have rebuttal after the defense case

Anyone else wondering where the evidence of Chauvin's past incidences are??? The state was allowed 2 of them.

 

[shotgun09]

How many witnesses does the state need, to say that the use of force was bad, negligent,causative etc? I remember just one, can't say who it was , who finally agreed with Nelson on cross, that the use of force was " lawful, but awful". We can all agree that it ( restraint) was ugly as heck, ( " awful" ) but it was lawful..per the state's own witness. The state still is trying to overcome that huge statement from last week, IMO.

 

[MadMcGoo]

This witness is good, but I’m not sure his testimony has been worth $25K (approximately what he’s been paid for his time/services). ETA: Rather, I don’t think the State needed him necessarily.

 

[missy1974]

This witness is good, but I’m not sure his testimony has been worth $25K (approximately what he’s been paid for his time/services). ETA: Rather, I don’t think the State needed him necessarily.

wow, I missed how much he was being paid!

 

[turaj]

MAYOR of Minneapolis just announced a curfew tonight...they are expecting riots from the officer involved shooting yesterday.

 

[BUF]

There’s exhibit #17 again.

Doesn’t this other exhibit look like something Dr.Tobin used?

 

[BUF]

This witness is good, but I’m not sure his testimony has been worth $25K (approximately what he’s been paid for his time/services). ETA: Rather, I don’t think the State needed him necessarily.

I think he said that is what he has been paid so far... could be more.

 

[Chelly]

@cathyrusson
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Judge Cahill on the bench ruling on the Morries Hall testimony
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Judge denies defense motion to compel prosecutors as to why they are not offering Morries Hall immunity. Also if Hall invokes 5th and refuses to testify, the defense CANNOT bring in Hall's past interview as none of the Q&A is admissible
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#DerekChauvinTrial - NOW: #GeorgeFloyd's brother, Philonise Floyd takes the stand as "spark of life" witness.
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Philonise Floyd is younger brother of #GeorgeFloyd. He says they grew up in Houston. He now starts to cry when this photo of George and his mother is shown
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#DereKChauvinTrial - Philonise testifies when their mother died in May 2018, #GeorgeFloyd wouldn't leave the casket, kept crying, "Mama, Mama"
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#DerekChauvinTrial - No cross-exam by Nelson of Philonise Floyd.

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#DerekChauvinTrial - Final witness for the prosecution is called. Seth Stoughton is a former police officer and now a criminal law professor.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

reviewed: Medical recs, interviews, all videos provided and autopsy report, additionally referred to Journal articles.

ETA Medical records reviewed were extensive, including previous Dr. and ER visits, labs, vitals, reported symptoms, EKG, cardiac telemetry monitor, etc.

EKG showed absolutely no abnormal heart rhythm. the telemetry monitor showed PVC (premature ventricular contraction). PVC is not uncommon and basically means the heart skips a beat occasionally.

When we'd see PVC's on a monitor, the first thing we did was give oxygen.

 

[CrimeAway]

I think that there are at this point some jurors that are tuned out on this guy....I think judge watches the jury closely and bet he said get moving you are losing them.

He's clearly an expert in his field, but he's losing me at this point.
Having said that, I'm still sleep deprived from going to bed too late, and doggies waking me up too early , of course, they then back to sleep about 20 minutes later

 

[Ray_of_hope]

After looking at his medical records:

High BP
anxiety
substance abuse

no diagnosis of heart disease previously, no signs of cardiac issues after looking at lab results, etc.

Unless I missed it, I don't think he is giving a time for this?

Only mentioning it since on the weekend it was being discussed on the sidebar thread about what, if any tests would have been done when he was hospitalized in March 2020.

History of anxiety could explain his panic reaction while trying to put him in the squad car and his claustrophobia.

 

[turaj]

judging from the traffic on this usually very busy site I think we are all ready for the defense case...this witness is just too similar to everything that has been presented...I think the jury is thinking the same...bet not many notes being taken?

 

[Chelly]

This use-of-force expert is testifying about what "a reasonable officer" would have done
compared to what DC did.

 

[MTW2011]

WOW.

I was initially agreeing with others, that this witness wasn't necessary, but I do really think he just mentioned a few things that will really stick with the jury.

He explained, using the video footage and what GF's own words were ["thank you"], demonstrate that there was a lack of intention to harm law enforcement & that whatever was causing his initial reaction to being arrested, that conflict as the witness said, was now gone because he's seen thanking them taking him out of the police car. He then goes on to explain about the level of possible threat and harm to officers goes even lower when the person is in handcuffs. Then he said he saw no reason to put GF prone on the ground, that maneuver is used when trying to place someone in handcuffs, not after they're in handcuffs he said - referencing his experience as being a police officer AND now studying and teaching about policing and the regulation of policing.

 

[shotgun09]

History of anxiety could explain his panic reaction while trying to put him in the squad car and his claustrophobia.

And likewise, so could methamphetamine use

 

[MadMcGoo]

I’m not following this witness’ explanation of threat assessment. Because someone has been searched and handcuffed does not mean they no longer pose a threat. I also don’t see GF as being compliant at the time the restraint was initiated.

I do agree that the situation needed to be re-evaluated and there came a point when the amount of force used was no longer necessary. Surely no one is arguing this fact. I’m ready to move on to the Defense’s case. (As always, just my opinions)

 

[Chelly]

WOW.

I was initially agreeing with others, that this witness wasn't necessary, but I do really think he just mentioned a few things that will really stick with the jury.

He explained, using the video footage and what GF's own words were ["thank you"], demonstrate that there was a lack of intention to harm law enforcement & that whatever was causing his initial reaction to being arrested, that conflict as the witness said, was now gone because he's seen thanking them taking him out of the police car. He then goes on to explain about the level of possible threat and harm to officers goes even lower when the person is in handcuffs. Then he said he saw no reason to put GF prone on the ground, that maneuver is used when trying to place someone in handcuffs, not after they're in handcuffs he said - referencing his experience as being a police officer AND now studying and teaching about policing and the regulation of policing.

Agree that this last witness is worth hearing. I just hope the defense doesn't put up as many expert witnesses as the prosecution did.

 

[BUF]

I wonder if jurors are looking at Chauvin for any reaction as they have been showing these videos.

https://twitter.com/DannySpewak/status/1381697566971072513

With the use of force expert on the stand, the state just played the part of the body camera video where Chauvin tells Floyd "it takes a heck of a lot of oxygen" in response to Floyd's distressed talking. In the court room, Chauvin offered no reaction.

 

[missy1974]

Isn't this the witness that the judge said the questioning would be limited???

This does not seem limited