MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #14 - Chauvin Trial Day 11

[BayouBelle_LA]

Now it’s prosecution redirect. Let’s see if he takes a sip.

 

[Chelly]

Judge predicting closing arguments Monday and then jury sequestration.

In recess now until 9:15 a.m. tomorrow court time

 

[Chelly]

Judge predicting closing arguments Monday and then jury sequestration.

In recess now until 9:15 a.m. tomorrow court time

 

[BUF]

https://twitter.com/AnaViLastra/status/1381722261342806029

Judge Cahill tells jurors they expect to move to defense’s case tomorrow. Says they might be done by the end of the week and potentially take Friday off. He tells them his preference is to have closing arguments on Monday. #DerekChauvinTrial

 

[Factoria]

Anyone think DC is writing, I will never kneel on a neck again, thousands of times?

Honestly, no I don't. But he should be.

 

[AC's Grandma]

Now it’s prosecution redirect. Let’s see if he takes a sip.

I think he ran out of water. LOL

 

[turaj]

Wow...if defense will start tomorrow and only needs until Friday...that is a pretty short case...guess there will be no rebuttal case. I guess I thought the defense will need a longer time.

 

[BritsKate]

Does Nelson think his effectiveness is a function of the time spent asking questions/the number of Q’s asked?

I guess that’s all he has to work with. This just makes me more and more angry. I wonder if the jury is having the same reaction.

It's driven me crazy since Day Two. This isn't a robust defense any defendant deserves - this is an ad hoc, hypothetical throw it all at the wall and see what sticks approach. It may work still but I don't think it's good lawyering even if Mr. Nelson succeeds at affability.

I think his primary plan is simply to raise reasonable doubt rather than pursue an acquittal...or possibly he's reasonably confident that he can get an acquittal without needing to present a cohesive defense strategy. Sadly, he may well be right.

JMO

 

[Algo214]

Nelson has not been able to poke any holes in any of the expert witnessess' testimonies, he checked out on Thursday.

Ok that's unfair, the experts didn't give him an inch to work with.

 

[Chelly]

@cathyrusson
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#DerekChauvinTrial - That's it for today. The state did not officially rest, though judge told jurors defense case will start tomorrow. Judge tells jurors likely there will be no court on Friday. Closings on Monday.

 

[SouthAussie]

Wow...if defense will start tomorrow and only needs until Friday...that is a pretty short case...guess there will be no rebuttal case. I guess I thought the defense will need a longer time.

I wonder if rebuttal is not requested or decided until the prosecution sees if there is anything they want to rebutt?

 

[Chelly]

I will be surprised is there is no rebuttal.

 

[Weki]

Wow this last expert witness was the best use of force witness! He absolutely owned Nelson! This is what I’m used to seeing from expert witnesses and that’s why the others were so disappointing. I was confused because they were so agreeable. Nelson is essentially arguing with his questions and the expert witnesses are supposed to consistently argue back in answer form. Not be agreeable and give yes and no answers like lay witnesses. This witness is clearly experienced and has some strong convictions and that’s what is needed. Fantastic witness to close out the state’s case in chief.

We already know what the defense’s case in chief will be about. Nelson has already laid it out through his questions. Basically, Chauvin has no defense. It would be malpractice for Nelson to allow his client to testify. Nelson is trying to inject doubt (as is his job) and his only hope is that 1 or 2 (potentially stealth) jurors will hang the jury. I really think a conviction is almost certain. And 2nd degree is a strong possibility.

JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

We will likely hear a lot of 'reasonable officer' when the prosecution cross examines the defense witnesses.

"So you think George was acting as if he was overdosing? Would a reasonable officer then have acted accordingly? Instead of restricting George's breathing with a knee on George's neck, and leaving him in a restrained prone position?" (for example)

When Nelson was asking him about the difference between watching the video and the officers actually being there, I thought the witness said, "I'm aware that an unreasonable officer would not have those capabilities."

It was when he was talking about sensory reaction. Nelson didn't seem to have much to say about that.

 

[turaj]

I will be surprised is there is no rebuttal.

well if there is then the timeline the judge gave is not going to work...they will be disappointed.

 

[MsBetsy]

Wow...if defense will start tomorrow and only needs until Friday...that is a pretty short case...guess there will be no rebuttal case. I guess I thought the defense will need a longer time.

I'm not sure what else they can possibly say except more of the same. There should be plenty of time for that.

What ever happened to the evidence of the two arrests that show Chauvin knew the risks he was taking? Or should have known, anyway.

 

[Factoria]

It's driven me crazy since Day Two. This isn't a robust defense any defendant deserves - this is an ad hoc, hypothetical throw it all at the wall and see what sticks approach. It may work still but I don't think it's good lawyering even if Mr. Nelson succeeds at affability.

I think his primary plan is simply to raise reasonable doubt rather than pursue an acquittal...or possibly he's reasonably confident that he can get an acquittal without needing to present a cohesive defense strategy. Sadly, he may well be right.

JMO

Raising reasonable doubt is all he's got to go on, and it's all he has to accomplish ~ even for just one juror. IMO, he has made some valid arguments so far (and some utterly ridiculous ones, too). We haven't heard testimony of any Defense witnesses yet, so nothing's a 'done deal'.

 

[Algo214]

Raising reasonable doubt is all he's got to go on, and it's all he has to accomplish ~ even for just one juror. IMO, he has made some valid arguments so far (and some utterly ridiculous ones, too). We haven't heard testimony of any Defense witnesses yet, so nothing's a 'done deal'.

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In my opinion, Nelson has only created doubt if we were to buy into his hypotheticals, which we cannot.

 

[SouthAussie]

Legal experts say that Chauvin’s defense attorney has a lot to weigh in deciding whether to put Chauvin on the stand, but one factor could be showing a different side to the former officer. Witnesses are allowed to take their masks off while they testify.

Pacyga, the defense attorney, said as he thinks the defense’s strategy could be headed towards having Chauvin testify, especially if they feel there is a chance of getting him acquitted of the charges.

“You’ve got to get this jury in Chauvin’s shoes in some way, shape or form,” he said. “Otherwise he looks like the most callous person in the world.”

EXPLAINER: Could mask hamper ex-officer's image with jurors?

 

[Gibbo214]

Legal experts say that Chauvin’s defense attorney has a lot to weigh in deciding whether to put Chauvin on the stand, but one factor could be showing a different side to the former officer. Witnesses are allowed to take their masks off while they testify.

Pacyga, the defense attorney, said as he thinks the defense’s strategy could be headed towards having Chauvin testify, especially if they feel there is a chance of getting him acquitted of the charges.

“You’ve got to get this jury in Chauvin’s shoes in some way, shape or form,” he said. “Otherwise he looks like the most callous person in the world.”

EXPLAINER: Could mask hamper ex-officer's image with jurors?

It will be hard to get over that disrespectful and arrogant last insult to Floyd by pulling and slamming a dead man down by his handcuffs. That did show him as the most callous person in the world.