GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

[branmuffin]

Will the jurors be allowed to bring in any of the visual aids Nelson used in his closing? Like Exhibit 126? Did prosecution use any visual aids?

 

[Boodles]

Has anyone kept track of how long Nelson has been talking? Omg, I don’t think he’ll ever stop. I know he’s trying to do the best job he can for his client, but IMO he’d be more effective making succinct points.

 

[Lilibet]

Why is Nelson discussing “intent.” The charges don’t include intent, do they?

 

[sds71]

Has anyone kept track of how long Nelson has been talking? Omg, I don’t think he’ll ever stop. I know he’s trying to do the best job he can for his client, but IMO he’d be more effective making succinct points.

@ChaoStrib

https://twitter.com/ChaoStrib/status/1384210809396420610
Nelson has been talking for about 1 hour and 45 minutes, and still has to address the cause of death issue in the case

 

[Inthedetails]

Why is Nelson discussing “intent.” Those aren’t in the charges, are they?

Does someone have the list handy of the charges the jury is to consider?

 

[Tom_Servo]

Ok...time to wrap it up. I think it's testing the jurors patience just as the pool reporter said this morning about the state. Attentive at first and interest waned toward the end. Nelson is there.

 

[Katerz]

Why is Nelson discussing “intent.” The charges don’t include intent.

Doesn’t one of the charges including showing intent to kill? Or am I wrong?

 

[Katerz]

Ok...time to wrap it up. I think it's testing the jurors patience just as the pool reporter said this morning about the state. Attentive at first and interest waned toward the end. Nelson is there.

Agreed. Especially with the hypotheticals and baking cookies talk, jurors may be close to checking out

 

[missy1974]

Does someone have the list handy of the charges the jury is to consider?

intent is mentioned in charges.

 

[tlcya]

that is what is so outrageous and scary Mr. Nelson, your client did this while being videotaped by his job and by the public. The expression at some points on your client's face is not that of a reasonable concerned public servant. It is that of a man trying to prove to his audience (the crowd) who is boss.

 

[missy1974]

We need to remember that the Defense gets once chance at closing statements. Not only is he trying to counter what the prosecution has already said.. but will say in rebuttal.

Closing arguments have been longer than I expected though.. for both sides.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

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intent is mentioned in charges.

Thanks! That chart is the best layout of the charges I have seen, step by step.

 

[kittythehare]

Why is Nelson discussing “intent.” The charges don’t include intent, do they?

No, they most certainly do not.
Gaslighting bigly is what he's at, it disrespects the victim, the courts and the jury IMO.
It's also complete BS!

 

[turaj]

Am I missing something here...Nelson is making the case for "lack of intent" but that is not a requirement for any of the charges...correct?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

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intent is mentioned in charges.

Yes, you can see that in the murder charges. JMO

 

[Lilibet]

Does someone have the list handy of the charges the jury is to consider?

OK. I see that the “intention” applies to the use of force. That’s different from intent to kill.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Good point by Nelson. I never noticed that GF actually kicked his legs forcing himself out of the car. I now don't see it as him being dragged out the other side. Interesting.

Hope that jurors see as all of here do.

That has NOTHING to do with charges. (Interesting for WS.. but not for trial MOO)

 

[Katerz]

What’s tragic is what his client did by putting his knee on his neck

 

[Katerz]

Can’t the state object to something in his closing argument?

 

[missy1974]

Can’t the state object to something in his closing argument?

Not if it's part of testimony in the trial IMO