GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #20

[sorrell skye]

Cahill's memo said trial evidence indicated Chauvin taunted Floyd by responding "dismissively" to his pleas as he was terrified he was going to die.

MCRO_27-CR-20-12646_Sentencing-Order_2021-06-25_20210625145755.pdf (mncourts.gov)

All the more reason why the sentence should have been at least the length of time the State recommended.

IMO, 270 months isn't a long enough sentence, given the Court's rulings regarding the aggravating factors.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Very interesting on page 17 as to why he did not give more time due to the 3rd aggravating factor (in front of children)

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgo...entencing-Order_2021-06-25_20210625145755.pdf

 

[kaen]

Very interesting on page 17 as to why he did not give more time due to the 3rd aggravating factor (in front of children)

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgo...entencing-Order_2021-06-25_20210625145755.pdf

I agree. I would say that it is more than interesting. Those girls/young women could never have known the horror that this murderer would bestow on his victim until afterword when it was clear that Mr. Floyd was dead. I don't agree with the judge on this.

 

[kittythehare]

All the more reason why the sentence should have been at least the length of time the State recommended.

IMO, 270 months isn't a long enough sentence, given the Court's rulings regarding the aggravating factors.

True but when one adds the Federal case, the tax evasion thingy and the case of the other child he seriously assaulted, we could be looking at an additional 10-20, maybe. At a stretch.
I'm thinking now about prisons.. if the fed case ends in a sentence is he likely to serve the entire sentence in a federal prison or part? I know he wanted that originally. Or something?

 

[kittythehare]

I agree. I would say that it is more than interesting. Those girls/young women could never have known the horror that this murderer would bestow on his victim until afterword when it was clear that Mr. Floyd was dead. I don't agree with the judge on this.

I don't either.
Damage is not always apparent during an event and people can laugh and joke in hysteria. It's oftentimes many years before damage manifests.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

All the more reason why the sentence should have been at least the length of time the State recommended.

IMO, 270 months isn't a long enough sentence, given the Court's rulings regarding the aggravating factors.

Yet, the last 2 pages of the pdf mathematically shows that it indeed fits what he did as to the time, with the 2 aggravating factors used within the equation...does it not? May not agree, yet appears he went to a lot of effort to ensure that he followed what had gone before.

 

[sorrell skye]

So Judge Cahill didn't find that the children at the scene were sufficiently traumatized by witnessing the torture and murder of George Floyd by Derek Chauvin in order to increase Chavin's sentence?

WTH?

 

[kittythehare]

So Judge Cahill didn't find that the children at the scene were sufficiently traumatized by witnessing the torture and murder of George Floyd by Derek Chauvin in order to increase Chavin's sentence?

WTH?

Wild!

 

[SouthAussie]

Very interesting on page 17 as to why he did not give more time due to the 3rd aggravating factor (in front of children)

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgo...entencing-Order_2021-06-25_20210625145755.pdf

Looks like he only considered the day's visual effect on two of the said children. And did not take into consideration any kind of after-trauma or ongoing trauma.

Though I think it would be difficult for him to (legally) take any of that into consideration without proof in the prosecution's submission that there was after-trauma and/or there is ongoing trauma.

It sounds as if it has to be evidence based, and not a personal conclusion.

 

[Puzzles]

In most criminal cases, I have compassion for the perpetrator, no matter how heinous the crime.

I've never seen that as any type of virtue or positive trait, but rather considered it some kind of fault in my character.

I've never publicly expressed my abberant sympathy for the criminal, because it has me feel ashamed, different from most people, or lacking in sufficient care for the victim.

In Chauvin's case, I feel no compassion for him at all. My reaction to his slaughter of George Floyd has me feel as I'm normal, in agreement with the majority, acceptable somehow,

except

there is murder in my heart.

 

[Tiff23fr]

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[MadMcGoo]

I can’t imagine the suffering both families will feel (have felt) over time. On the surface there is only one victim. In reality there are many. My heart hurts equally for all.

I hope you’re resting peacefully George.

 

[Dotta]

True but when one adds the Federal case, the tax evasion thingy and the case of the other child he seriously assaulted, we could be looking at an additional 10-20, maybe. At a stretch.
I'm thinking now about prisons.. if the fed case ends in a sentence is he likely to serve the entire sentence in a federal prison or part? I know he wanted that originally. Or something?

I would even say that it was the most agg factor!

 

[MadMcGoo]

Was justice served here? No. Will “things” change now? No.

It’s heartbreaking.

 

[Luna20]

Any clue as to what Chauvin was referring to here?

“I want to give my condolences to the Floyd family,” Chauvin said, adding that he was not able to “give a full, formal statement” because of “some additional legal matters at hand.” He ended on a cryptic note.

 

[SouthAussie]

Any clue as to what Chauvin was referring to here?

“I want to give my condolences to the Floyd family,” Chauvin said, adding that he was not able to “give a full, formal statement” because of “some additional legal matters at hand.” He ended on a cryptic note.

This ....

Friday's sentence of 22.5 years in state prison isn’t the last of the legal issues for Derek Chauvin. In May, a federal grand jury indicted Chauvin and three other former officers on civil rights charges.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/l...ence/285-4beb2fe3-2617-4f30-b9c3-e6d7255d3b3f

 

[kaen]

Any clue as to what Chauvin was referring to here?

“I want to give my condolences to the Floyd family,” Chauvin said, adding that he was not able to “give a full, formal statement” because of “some additional legal matters at hand.” He ended on a cryptic note.

Any statement he made in court could (and, most likely, would) be used in future proceedings against him. He is also appealing his convictions besides facing the federal charges.

It is anyone's guess as to what he thinks will come to light that would be of interest and give this family peace of mind. He continues to play a psychological mind game in MHO.


NYTimes (‘I want to give my condolences to the Floyd family,’ Derek Chauvin says at his sentencing hearing.):
“Due to some additional legal matters at hand, I’m not able to give a full formal statement at this time,” said Mr. Chauvin, the former police officer who was convicted in April of murdering Mr. Floyd on a Minneapolis street corner. “But, very briefly, I want to give my condolences to the Floyd family.”

He added, somewhat cryptically: “There’s going to be some other information in the future that would be of interest, and I hope things will give you some peace of mind.”

 

[Dotta]

I watched youtube with sentencing this morning. I was shocked how much DC aged! His hair looks grey - although it is so short it might be an illusion. He has terrible "bags" under his eyes either. And to think he did it all to himself voluntarily. All he had to do was just STAND UP and let GF BREATHE!!!

 

[turaj]

Well that was one cold courtroom yesterday....mother's comments are odd to say the least and not even getting the date correct of the murder was indicative of her being completely out of touch...of course DC was cold but what really struck me was Judge Cahill. I have watched sentencings many times and in a case of this magnitude with community impact he sure could have been more eloquent and still kept it brief. At least he did thank those that came in to speak. He just eludes the feeling I want this to be over. I guess he has his reasons but my opinion of him went down as we moved thru the process and to pretty much tell the public (many watching) to go read a lengthy legal document was not impressive. That said...I am sure he spent hours crafting the document and that the legal thinking is sound. He does not need to account to us but those are the feelings I am left with. The sentence is about exactly as I expected..

 

[angelainwi]

And now any jackass will find a reason to protest, riot etc...the statues of GF will be painted on again like in Newark .....damn kids. I am starting to feel old !

How right, you were.....Vandals painted a hate group's website on the statue, which was unveiled on Juneteenth.

Vandalism of new Brooklyn George Floyd statue may be hate crime, officials say