GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #20

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Judge won't change Derek Chauvin sentencing memo regarding child witnesses

July 14, 2021
MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) - Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill said Tuesday he will not amend his sentencing order for former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin in regards to children at the scene of George Floyd's murder.
I have a question - Is AG superior/boss of a judge or are judges independent? Can AG give him an order to amend? I wonder why the judge is so adamant and against about it? Maybe he doesnt like anybody to influence his work?
 
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I have a question - Is AG superior/boss of a judge or are judges independent? Can AG give him an order to amend? I wonder why the judge is so adamant and against about it? Maybe he doesnt like anybody to influence his work?
I doubt AG can order judge to amend. Maybe if Ellison wants to take this further, he can appeal through the courts. I think AG lost this one, but he gets an A for effort from me.

Below is what above is all about:
Prosecutors Ask Judge In Derek Chauvin Trial To Change 'Trauma' Wording In Sentencing Order

Attorney General Keith Ellison, in a filing released Thursday, stressed that he’s not seeking any change to Chauvin’s 22 1/2-year sentence. But he asked Judge Peter Cahill to revisit the document to remove suggestions that four girls who witnessed Floyd’s death and testified at Chauvin’s trial weren’t traumatized by what they saw. He cited research showing that children process trauma differently from adults and that adults tend to discount the impact of trauma on Black girls.
 
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Ok, I am French . Don't understand why this police officer has been sentencing so hard . When I saw the video , I saw men , policemen afraid . Think that the sentence is too hard .
I know its no correct to say that . My apologies. I am true.
 
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Ok, I am French . Don't understand why this police officer has been sentencing so hard . When I saw the video , I saw men , policemen afraid . Think that the sentence is too hard .
I know its no correct to say that . My apologies. I am true.

Too hard??!! I'd say not enough! He killed a man while putting his knee on the guy's neck for 9 minutes & 29 seconds!! And I don't believe they were "afraid"! <modsnip>
 
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Too hard??!! I'd say not enough! He killed a man while putting his knee on the guy's neck for 9 minutes & 29 seconds!! And I don't believe they were "afraid"! <modsnip>
Can I give my opinion? you are not a policeman . When I was travelling in Usa , I always obey all summons from the police . Why not GF ? Was he a man who didn't know the laws of his country?
And you can't say that DC was a killer who in the morning says :" I want to kill an Afroamerican" .
 
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Can I give my opinion? you are not a policeman . When I was travelling in Usa , I always obey all summons from the police . Why not GF ?

Of course you can give your opinion - I'm just disagreeing with you. And of course I'm not a policeman - what does that have to do with "my" opinion? And of course I obey all police - or they can get a little nasty - I know!!

I believe GF did obey the police - he just didn't want to get into the squad car - clausterphoia (sp?) or something. But once they had him on the ground - I believe he complied.
 
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I'm still angered by the sentence; much too lenient imho. What I saw on the tape was murder, period.

moo
 
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It was DC's intense look and how his eyes looked keeping GF down for so long for me. Like he was showing the onlookers how long he could keep GF down to show power. Knowing it was too long when others told him and not quitting that position. That did it for me. That's what made me think he was guilty to the gills.
 
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Can I give my opinion? you are not a policeman . When I was travelling in Usa , I always obey all summons from the police . Why not GF ? Was he a man who didn't know the laws of his country?
And you can't say that DC was a killer who in the morning says :" I want to kill an Afroamerican" .


He certainly wanted to kill him after he was able able to gain control and could have worked with the suspect to get him in a patrol car safely with respect for his life. I’m sorry, but this is what a police officer is required to do. Not kneel on someone’s neck for the good part of the average employee break time, nonchalantly with your hands by your sides.

Correct me if I wrong the phase is “To Serve and Protect”? Emphasis on the PROTECT - all citizens. We are a lost society.
 
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DC has been charged and convicted.
His sentence is less than it should have been IMO.
Considerably less.
But, there you have it.
And here we are.
Without catharsis.
Again.
 
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Friday, July 30th:
*Omnibus Hearing-Remote (re Tax evasion) (@ 1pm CT) - MN – *Derek Michael Chauvin (44/now 45) - charged (7/22/20) with 6 counts of aiding & abetting taxes-false or fraudulent returns-filed with commissioner & 3 counts aiding & abetting taxes-failure to file return, report, document.
Chauvin & his ex-wife, Kellie Chauvin are accused of under reporting their income by a total of $464,433 between 2014 & 2019, according to the complaint. That includes an alleged failure to report more than $95K over several years from Mr. Chauvin’s employment as a security guard at a bar. They owe a total of $37,868 in back taxes & penalties, according to a criminal complaint filed by the Washington County attorney’s office. Both Chauvin & his ex-wife each face nine felony charges, which each carry a maximum of five years in prison & a $10K fine.
Court info from 7/22/20 thru 10/26/20 reference post #140 here:
MN - George Floyd, 46, died in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 *officers charged* #3

12/11/20 Update: Hearing held by remote technology. Next Omnibus hearing on 1/15/21. 1/15/21 Update: Hearing was held. Next Omnibus hearing on 6/30/21 via remote technology. 6/30/21 Update: Hearing was held. Next Omnibus hearing on 7/30/21.
MN - George Perry Floyd, Jr. (46) (May 25, 2020, Minneapolis, arrested for forgery & killed in police custody) - *Derek Michael Chauvin (44/now 45) – Trial started on 3/29/21 & ended 4/21/21. Verdict: Guilty of all charges. Sentenced on 6/25/21 to 22½ years in prison.
*Federal Case – Arraignment hearing on 9/14/21.
 
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Four former cops indicted on US civil rights charges in Floyd's death - Editor 99

July 30, 2021

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) – A federal grand jury indicted the four former Minneapolis police officers involved in the arrest and death of George Floyd, accusing them of intentionally violating the constitutional rights of the black man while pinning him face down on the sidewalk and gasping for air.

A three-count indictment revealed Friday names Derek Chauvin, Thomas Lane, J. Kueng and Tou Thao.

Specifically, Chauvin is charged with violating Floyd’s right to be free from unreasonable seizure and force by a police officer. Thao and Kueng are also accused of violating Floyd’s right to be free from an unreasonable attack, claiming that they did not intervene to stop Chauvin when he knelt on Floyd’s neck. All four officers are charged with failing to provide Floyd with medical care.
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Chauvin was also charged in a second indictment, stemming from the arrest and neck restraint of a 14-year-old boy in 2017.

Lane, Thao and Kueng made their first court appearance Friday by video conference at the United States District Court in Minneapolis. Chauvin was not part of the court appearance.
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Conviction on a federal civil rights charge is punishable by up to life in prison or even the death penalty, but those harsh sentences are extremely rare and federal sentencing guidelines are based on complicated formulas indicating that officers would get much less if they condemn them.

In Chauvin’s case, if the federal court uses second-degree murder as his underlying offense, he could face anywhere from 14 years to just over 24 years, depending on whether he takes responsibility, said Mark Osler, a former federal prosecutor and professor of St. Thomas University School of Law.
 
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Friday, July 30th:
*First Appearance Hearing (@ am CT) -*Federal Grand Jury indicted & charged (5/7/21) Tou Thao (34/now 35) & J. Alexander Kueng (26/now 27) for violated Floyd’s civil rights. Charged (5/7/21) & arraigned (7/14/21) with violating Floyd's right to be free from unreasonable seizure, alleging they willfully failed to intervene to stop Chauvin’s unreasonable force, resulting in bodily injury to & the death of Mr. Floyd & failure to provide Floyd with medical care. Thomas Kiernan Lane (37/now 38) is charged with failure to provide Floyd with medical care. All released on $25K unsecured bond.
Trial was set to begin on 8/2/21 continued with no further dates.
Info on indictment of 5/7/21 reference post #595 here:
GUILTY - MN - George Floyd, 46, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #20

5/15/21 Update: Lane, Kueng & Thao will be arraigned on civil rights violations on July 14 in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis. Their trial date has yet to be determined. All were released on $25K unsecured bond. Trial is set to begin on 8/2/21.
5/21/21 Update: U.S. District Judge Patrick Schiltz ordered the U.S. attorney's office & the Minnesota attorney general to provide a list of every person to whom they disclosed grand jury activity. He also ordered the U.S. Attorney's office to explain why he shouldn't appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate & file criminal contempt of court charges for the disclosures. Schiltz wants the responses filed under seal no later than June 4.

6/4/21 Update: Magistrate Judge Tony Leung said the four men would be arraigned Sept. 14, subject to any further orders from the court. A date for trial has not been set. 7/30/21 Update: First appearance for all 3 via video conference on 7/30/21. Chauvin was not part of the video conference.
*Derek Michael Chauvin (44) – Murder: Trial began on 3/8/21 with jury selection. Trial started on 3/29/21 & ended 4/15/21. Guilty on all charges. Sentenced on 6/25/21 to 22½ years in prison. 7/14/21: Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill said Tuesday he will not amend his sentencing order for Chauvin in regards to children at the scene of Floyd's murder. Taxes: Omnibus hearing on 6/30/21. Federal grand jury indicts (5/7/21) for violating Floyd’s civil rights. Arraignment hearing on 9/14/21.
 
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Four former cops indicted on US civil rights charges in Floyd's death - Editor 99

July 30, 2021

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) – A federal grand jury indicted the four former Minneapolis police officers involved in the arrest and death of George Floyd, accusing them of intentionally violating the constitutional rights of the black man while pinning him face down on the sidewalk and gasping for air.

A three-count indictment revealed Friday names Derek Chauvin, Thomas Lane, J. Kueng and Tou Thao.

Specifically, Chauvin is charged with violating Floyd’s right to be free from unreasonable seizure and force by a police officer. Thao and Kueng are also accused of violating Floyd’s right to be free from an unreasonable attack, claiming that they did not intervene to stop Chauvin when he knelt on Floyd’s neck. All four officers are charged with failing to provide Floyd with medical care.
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Chauvin was also charged in a second indictment, stemming from the arrest and neck restraint of a 14-year-old boy in 2017.

Lane, Thao and Kueng made their first court appearance Friday by video conference at the United States District Court in Minneapolis. Chauvin was not part of the court appearance.
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Conviction on a federal civil rights charge is punishable by up to life in prison or even the death penalty, but those harsh sentences are extremely rare and federal sentencing guidelines are based on complicated formulas indicating that officers would get much less if they condemn them.

In Chauvin’s case, if the federal court uses second-degree murder as his underlying offense, he could face anywhere from 14 years to just over 24 years, depending on whether he takes responsibility, said Mark Osler, a former federal prosecutor and professor of St. Thomas University School of Law.
Thank you for cheering me up immensely today.
 
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Ok, I am French . Don't understand why this police officer has been sentencing so hard . When I saw the video , I saw men , policemen afraid . Think that the sentence is too hard .
I know its no correct to say that . My apologies. I am true.

Maybe you missed the significance of the world wide uprising and protest marches against police brutality that erupted because of George Floyd's murder. You can be sure that none of the hundreds of thousand protestors thought Dereck Chauvin and the other cops looked scared. Neither did the jury who found Chauvin guilty of murder. Legally Blind provided a link to the reasoning of his sentence. If you didn't watch his trial, I am sure this will help you understand.

One short note, in case you don't read the link, resisting being put in the back seat of a cop car doesn't justify a death sentence by police.

https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/me...entencing-Order_2021-06-25_20210625145755.pdf
 
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