To me, yes. Maybe not to you.Well? Is there any evidence Lemon infringed on amendment rights?
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To me, yes. Maybe not to you.Well? Is there any evidence Lemon infringed on amendment rights?
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I believe that was the point of the protest, it was stated to inform others who they had as a pastor. jmo because I don’t have supporting facts at the moment.I saw one or two in the very beginng, prob that day by a reporter, the woman said she had no idea about the church pastor being an ice member. Started me wondering what exactly was that particular church about. IMO
I said this above, a few posts back, but Nekima Armstrong herself gives the reason during her interview with Chris Cuomo. Let me link to my post.I believe that was the point of the protest, it was stated to inform others who they had as a pastor. jmo because I don’t have supporting facts at the moment.
My understanding is that the protest and story were focused on a member of the church who is also a federal agent. That is given by the organizers as the reason that they focused on the church. They believed that a federal agent was at the church.
As soon as they realized that the man at the centre of the journalistic story; the man who is both a church member and federal agent, was not in the church, they should have left. They no longer had any reason to pursue the journalistic story or the protest.
There was no one to interview inside or outside the church related to the protest...
My total guess is that <modsnip> Churches are.... private like your back yard.I can't decide if I think of the Church as private like a mall? Or private like my living room?
When a journalist records an historic event, even if no one realizes it's historic at the time, there's no rule against it. There is no aspect of the FACE Act that prohibits the filming of events in a place of worship.Is one of the questions: when someone posts on social media that they intend to violate federal law, such as the FACE Act (or any other law), should journalists rush to the scene to film the violation of law? Should journalists interview the persons whose rights have been violated to ask how it feels?
Is that journalism, or voyeurism?
Those 'independent journalists' you speak about weren't journalists which is why their defense of chronicling the events tanked. They were part of the event and their chronicling of the events were to boost traffic on their bosses' podcasts and websites like Infowars and Alex Jones. Both of whom were aware of the events that were to come.Precedent was set with the arrest of independent journalists who were chronicling the events of January 6th at the Capitol. I think it was about 8 independent journalists who were arrested and charged and some sent to prison and some negotiated a plea deal, IIRC. Also, no journalists defended their right to chronicle the events and practice journalism during these events. So it seems that these journalism associations have a clear double standard for when they speak out against this and when they don't. I don't think any of us are surprised, sadly.
I wish I could like this 500 times!! Everything you said is spot on. Bravo!When a journalist records an historic event, even if no one realizes it's historic at the time, there's no rule against it. There is no aspect of the FACE Act that prohibits the filming of events in a place of worship.
(1) the use of physical force, threat of physical force, or physical obstruction to intentionally injure, intimidate, interfere with or attempt to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person who is obtaining an abortion,
(2) the use of physical force, threat of physical force, or physical obstruction to intentionally injure, intimidate, interfere with or attempt to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person who is exercising or trying to exercise their First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship,
(3) the intentional damage or destruction of a reproductive health care facility or a place of worship.
I'm not sure why you keep repeating the same thing. What did Don Lemon do that was illegal? Knowing ahead of time that a protest was going to take place doesn't mean that it was DL's responsibility to advise the church. Being aware of an event prior to its happening is what's called a source for a credible story if you're a journalist. It's not DL's responsibility to advise LE that a protest was going to take place. The last thing a journalist wants to do is destroy a credible source. Now, if it was something like blowing up a business or building then I presume that most journalists would tip off LE to avoid loss of life.
Those 'independent journalists' you speak about weren't journalists which is why their defense of chronicling the events tanked. They were part of the event and their chronicling of the events were to boost traffic on their bosses' podcasts and websites like Infowars and Alex Jones. Both of whom were aware of the events that were to come.
Being in the wrong place at the right time can be similar to being in the right place at the wrong time. Many times, that has to do with the political climate. So right now, DL is a journalist who was in the right place at the wrong time, the wrong time, being the Trump regime, a criminal organization whose sole reason is to enrich themselves while suppressing the undesirables, as according to Project 2025.
Don Lemon has been known as a journalist for years, his bona fides go back for decades. He even won the Edward R Murrow award for chronicling the DC snipers back in 2002. So comparing him to those criminals in Washington DC on Jan 6 2021 is laughable.
They weren't journalists. They were people sent by the likes of InfoWars and Alex Jones websites to provide the red meat for their rabid followers. That's why they were arrested. I mean, the Infowars guy wore a Make America Great Again. Not exactly low key, right?<snipped for focus>
Exactly, and the independent journalists that documented the events at the Capitol incident were arrested and charged with crimes and some of them were given prison sentences.
IIRC Armstrong wanted both the pastor and the church members to be the focus of the protest. In other words, the protest wasn’t just about the Field Office Director. As a pastor herself, she mentioned that one goal of hers was to inform about the abuses ICE agents committed under Easterwood’s leadership in MN and how, in her opinion, his work like breaking families apart and and defending ICE agent Jonathan Ross, who shot and killed Renee Good, and those who target school children and invade people’s homes are antithetical to the teachings of God and his church needs to be called out. It does not appear that Easterwood being being there or not would deviate their plans all that much when, according to MPR news, she aimed to make church goers expereince the same level of discomfort as their brown and black migrant neighbors are currently in an ICE-invades MN.My understanding is that the protest and story were focused on a member of the church who is also a federal agent. That is given by the organizers as the reason that they focused on the church. They believed that a federal agent was at the church.
As soon as they realized that the man at the centre of the journalistic story; the man who is both a church member and federal agent, was not in the church, they should have left. They no longer had any reason to pursue the journalistic story or the protest.
There was no one to interview inside or outside the church related to the protest or the independent journalist's story.
How does law apply when there was essentially no reason for the protest, and no reason for an independent journalist to attend? They made a mistake. They miscalculated. No one at the church had anything to do with detaining illegal immigrants.
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The story about the protest in the church. In said church there were the parishioners of the pastor in question, interviewing them would be interesting for any journo worth their salt.Regarding the independent journalist, after he realized that the target of the protest was not in the church, why didn't he leave? What was the story about if he was not there to interview the man who works as a federal agent?
What is this evidence? Where in any footage we can see Don actually disrupting the service?To me, yes. Maybe not to you.
Don Lemon on Jimmy Kimmel
Wow. Everywhere I have worked, I have been asked to work smarter. Do I really need this much staff? This much paper? This many laptops? Why is each person expensing mileage, instead of carpooling?Don Lemon on Jimmy Kimmel